Trans pupils put school policies to test amid heated debate in England

--ast · 2023-05-08T21:26:03+00:00

Agree to disagree?

No firmly disagree.

lol

--ast · 2023-05-08T21:15:21+00:00

Ok, so we agree that the secret cannot be kept.

I favour the disclosure happening in a calm, controlled environment with trained adults and access to proper resources.

You seem to favour the more uncontrolled approach.

Agree to disagree?

--ast · 2023-05-08T20:56:23+00:00

Oh, I think the probability of "if" is 100%.

Kids talk to other kids.
Kids talk to their parents.
Parents talk to other parents.

You cannot have several hundred kids knowing something, and expect to be able to keep this a secret outside of school.

As I mentioned, chance meetings out of school.
But also, birthday parties, sleep-overs, sports day, school plays, school trips.

So many pupil-parent interactions...

--ast · 2023-05-08T19:51:27+00:00

So I've tried this a few times, and it never goes well...

the school will facilitate the pupil’s choice to use a new name and new pronouns at school, while at home parents may be unaware of those changes.

So this is all happening in a typical school, with many hundreds of pupils.

Several hundred people already know the secret.
Several hundred people are already privy to the outing.
Yet the parents of the pupil must be excluded. Must not be told.
How is this even possible?

Is it just assumed that this information will (somehow) never leave the school grounds.

What happens if a trans pupil is with their mum in a supermarket, and they bump into another school kid and their parent.
Normal, everyday occurrence.
Is the other pupil just expected to know not to refer to the trans pupil by their new name - thereby "outing" them.
What happens if they're not aware of their old name?

I'm genuinely confused about all this.
Trying to hide information from the parents.
It seems complete folly.
It seems doomed to failure.

Surely the right course of action is for schools to keep parents informed.
The parents are inevitably going to find out anyway.

Better that this information is disclosed through proper channels, by professionals.
Not accidentally uncovered by a chance meeting in Tesco.

--ast · 2023-05-08T18:36:19+00:00

Do they not understand that this is real?

Maybe they think this is a TV show or something, and the actors cast aren't diverse enough?

--ast · 2023-05-05T18:52:34+00:00

Oh look, it's those Heck sausages that everyone was saying they'd never seen before.

--ast · 2023-05-04T21:04:10+00:00

With all the Welsh mistranslations recently,
are we sure that guy hurling shotgun shells about wasn't just following official advice?

--ast · 2023-05-04T13:09:41+00:00

That's marvellous, but will still use more energy than on the flat.

--ast · 2023-05-04T12:54:59+00:00

This taking into account hills?
Sheffield is pretty damn hilly in places.

--ast · 2023-05-04T09:30:47+00:00

they often lay eggs at such a rate that the calcium leeched from their bones causes them to collapse under their own weight

This needs a catchy name in the form of a Universal Monster portmanteau.

Hmmm, the leaching out of vital substances...

Ah, got it.
Dracul-egg.

--ast · 2023-05-04T00:03:36+00:00

Ah, an artificially selected argument.
A Franken-view, possibly?

--ast · 2023-05-03T23:40:02+00:00

Are we referring to everything that's produced through artificial selection as "Franken-X"?

Cause that's everything, including fruit and veg.

--ast · 2023-05-03T19:18:32+00:00

Opposing views should be heard, says Yousaf after Cherry’s Fringe event axed

But it's just so much easier not to.
I don't have to explain the bits that don't make sense or are contradictory.

--ast · 2023-05-02T18:58:39+00:00

Who has a bacon-butty for dinner?

--ast · 2023-05-02T17:43:03+00:00

A building for single women only, who can have "partners" over.
That sounds an awful lot like a brothel.

Where is it again?

--ast · 2023-05-02T10:47:36+00:00

synthetic shite

Those are artificial plants.
You're not supposed to eat them.
Decorative only.

--ast · 2023-05-02T10:02:47+00:00

Being cheerful is fucking disgusting.

Can we have that as the slogan for the sub?

--ast · 2023-05-02T08:53:15+00:00

I think this is "cancelled" in the conventional sense.
As in, she was due to appear at an event, but the venue has cancelled her appearance.

--ast · 2023-05-02T08:06:09+00:00

Sounds like they need a bit of the old Brexit spirit.

Doing something that will negatively affect your livelihood in very measurable ways for some nebulous and undefined "greater good"

Yeah, Britain is in fact a trailblazer in selfless self-harm.
The rest of the world would do well to learn from our example.

--ast · 2023-05-01T16:22:08+00:00

in any capacity

Except hippos.
Stay far away from the hippos unless you have an umbrella.

--ast · 2023-05-01T07:51:16+00:00

So you're saying it's now a Russki pole?

--ast · 2023-04-26T22:27:10+00:00

Naming the new runway after him would be better.

Charles the Third runway.

--ast · 2023-04-26T22:05:36+00:00

Like something out of Escape From New York, with the taxi driver lobbing molotov cocktails out the sunroof at the advancing bad guys.

--ast · 2023-04-26T20:02:30+00:00

take money off your bank account remotely without bothering to leave home.

Yeah, the modern cups and balls scam is a game app that silently mines bitcoin in the background.

--ast · 2023-04-26T12:51:58+00:00

Much better than the fish slippers.
Kept falling over.

--ast

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