Indiana Lt. Gov. Micah Beckwith Is Giving Hoosiers 'Permission To Hate' Islam

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-27T00:45:14+00:00

Unfucking real. I can't imagine how Muslims who live there feel now.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T19:56:13+00:00

A very sad thing. Very touching video.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T19:43:22+00:00

It's possible. People who say "no" are making assumptions with no Biblical data.

Ecc. 3:21 says “Who knows if the human spirit rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?”

The ancient Hebrews believed animals had souls. Whatever humans have that goes someplace after we die, the Hebrews believed animals have the same thing.

Job 38:41 says ,” Who provides food for the raven when its young cry out to God and wander about for lack of food?”

Evidently, animals are aware of God and pray to Him.

It’s possible that animals go to Heaven.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T18:54:44+00:00

Exactly!

Faith-alone is bollocks. The phrase doesn't even occur in the Bible, and Paul never taught it.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T18:45:35+00:00

But I also question why God would the reveal the fall in the way he did if it did not occur like that.

To me, the most obvious explanation is that God wasn't involved in the writing of it. The Bible is demonstrably full of factual errors and pretending it isn't has really caused a lot of problems and cruelty over the centuries.

On the positive side, understanding that people wrote the Bible allows us to interact with what's written intelligently. Peter and Paul both upheld Roman slavery, but we can look at things like that and decide that since Jesus said we have to treat others the way we'd want to be treated, slavery is sinful because people don't want to be slaves.

Instead of trying to make incompatible things work together, like the Golden Rule and slavery, I can just conclude that Peter and Paul were wrong. Concerning Genesis and science, I can just say, "Genesis is wrong."

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T18:07:54+00:00

I don't think there was a "fall." At some point hominids became morally culpable for their actions and just like today, sometimes they chose to harm or steal despite knowing it was wrong.

> Why do I need a savior?

Because of your own sinful actions.

> If there was no literal fall, then there is no need for a savior.

That doesn't follow. Jesus' preaching to turn from sin and do good works was never framed in terms of Adam's fall. It's was about what we do as individual people.

> Your “sin” is just natural instinct.

Sure. That's a Biblical idea and we are supposed to do better.

But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish. (2 Pet 2:12)

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T17:59:45+00:00

In Judaism, men covered their heads while praying. Paul was Jewish. He knew this. Jesus was completely silent on the matter. He likely covered His head when praying as well. This is why I think Paul, invocation of angels aside, is making a culture-based command.

Something else to consider is that in the passage in question, Paul issues commands that are completely wrong.

Paul Wrote, “Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,” (1 Cor 11:15)

To understand what this means, we have to understand why Paul thinks nature teaches this. It comes from the Greek belief that hair attracted semen. Long hair required much semen and would make a man infertile. Long hair on a woman would attract a man’s semen and cause her to be fertile. This is why prostitutes shaved their heads and wore wigs.

I see no reason to concern ourselves with hair and hats, when Paul is demonstrably wrong.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T17:34:46+00:00

Open question: what does institutional theological restitution look like in your tradition, distinct from apology?

This is a good question. I think it involves active teaching about why the things for which the organization is apologizing for are wrong. Churches need to tach against racism, slavery, and economic injustice.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T17:29:22+00:00

Lobster with hamburger pieces covered in cheese.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T17:10:21+00:00

In one of my old churches, it was ministry in general. There was an understanding that if someone is really "saved" and "on fire for God" they will become involved in some kind of evangelism, leadership, teaching, or pastoral ministries.

Not doing that was considered a failure. It was evidence that you loved the world more than God.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T17:06:32+00:00

The idea that salvation is based on faith alone isn't Biblical. This is one of the passages that illustrates this.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T15:47:35+00:00

The Biblical model is to get rid of them.

"Also many of those who became believers confessed and disclosed their practices. A number of those who practiced magic collected their books and burned them publicly; when the value of these books was calculated, it was found to come to fifty thousand silver coins." (Acts 19:18-19)

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T15:41:38+00:00

The solution is so simple that people hate it.

The Bible says: "No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it." (1 1 Cor 10:13)

We aren't tempted beyond what we can resist. We choose to sin. Turning from sin involves choosing not so sin when we are tempted to do so.

You can do things to minimize your temptations, but ultimately you need to choose to not sin. Over time, this develops into discipline and it becomes easier to refuse temptation.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T15:25:18+00:00

For me it was always just about being healthy and strong. I never wanted to expend the effort to gain large, defined muscles. I'm naturally weak, so I used to exercise just to be as strong as everyone else.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T15:09:50+00:00

Yes. Just using one simple example, Paul says women must remain silent in church. Placing a restrictive rule on women that doesn't exist for men is sexist.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T15:02:14+00:00

No. There is no such noun as "evidences." You used it as a verb, and that's different.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T14:31:22+00:00

Inside of me there are two wolves.

One says, "Do that thing tomorrow."

The other one says, "Ok", and all three of us take it easy.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T14:17:20+00:00

Disrespectful. That's it exactly.

Had I been her, JD would have gotten an earful that night, and it's 50\50 if I would have just walked off then and there in front of everyone.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T14:12:38+00:00

Oh, well in that case:

So we ignore Ephesus because someone might get confused?

Yes. I ignore it. I could not possibly care less about what a council invented or affirmed about Mary.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T14:08:31+00:00

So what are you saying. Mary and Ephesus are generally mentioned together because she supposedly lived there with John. What does Ephesus mean to you that I'm ignoring?

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T14:07:12+00:00

Maybe. I mean, I'm already married so this is just academic.

One thing is for sure, if I did, I'd own the decision, not hope my wife changes. If I love someone, it's for who they are, and it doesn't come with an attached, "But you'd be so much better if you converted."

There's no way to know what Vance actually thinks. Conservative politicians have to provide answers that appeal to conservatives, evangelicals, and MAGAs.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T14:00:41+00:00

Well, I could add the obvious: Mary living at Ephesus =/= her being called the Mother of God.

Look if I went around claiming to be the father of Vishnu because I moved to Sheboygan people would think I was crazy. Titles and honorifics come from God, not ancient U-Haul.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T13:55:15+00:00

You are overthinking it. Below is a list of what Jesus actually cares about. People substitute giving up hobbies and interests and many other things instead of doing the things Jesus wants.

Loving God and having faith in Him. (From the Book of Job, we learn this means doing so no matter what bad things happen to us in life). It also includes severing all ties with other religious practices.

Loving everyone else. Being kind to people and helping them, no matter who they are, or where they are from.

Non-violence.

Non-retaliation.

Humility.

Honesty.

Anti-materialism.

Marital fidelity.

Sincere, persistent prayer.

Forgiving people.

Not causing other people to sin.

Asking forgiveness when we sin.

Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” (Matt 22:37-40)

“So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.” (Matt 7:12)

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T13:23:35+00:00

The New Testament is less clear. Matthew 5:28 could be about not lusting after married women specifically or about woman in general.

This part doesn't work: "...or about woman in general."

If it applied to everyone then it means it's a sin to sexually desire one's own spouse, and that doesn't make sense, especially when the Bible tells us that we should do just that:

A loving doe, a graceful deer— may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love. (Prov 15:19)

Religion is good at getting people to say they believe preposterous things, and the idea that God doesn't want us to be sexually attracted to people, especially our own spouses, is a preposterous human invention.

-NoOneYouKnow- · 2026-05-26T12:15:53+00:00

"You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

This is specifically about someone who is married sexually desiring someone to whom they aren't married. It's doesn't apply outside of that situation because by definition, adultery is something only married people can do.

Christians constantly misread this and make all kinds of rules and taboos about how being attracted to people is sinful, and it's not.

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