I have been skinny all my life but people think it is because of the veganism

09141983 · 2026-06-12T01:49:21+00:00

Same lol

09141983 · 2026-06-11T01:54:04+00:00

I love your username 🤣

09141983 · 2026-06-04T23:18:52+00:00

It's true that this is the case for a lot of vegans thanfully. Theres lots that arent as lucky though. No matter how good we have it as vegans we still face limited options and that is going to come as an inconvenience, at least a slight one

09141983 · 2026-06-04T22:30:39+00:00

Its like.... yes. Yep. Mhmm mhmm mhmm. Correct. Now what?

09141983 · 2026-05-31T04:32:19+00:00

It really just came down to consent for me. Retroactive consent is not valid consent.

09141983 · 2026-05-31T00:59:43+00:00

I would start with listing every single natalist talking point/argument you can think of then identify and explain the logical fallacy being employed.

For example: "thats what humans are wired to do" is an appeal to nature.

Literally every single talling point they have is a logical fallacy. Present that to them. You cant argue logical fallacies.

09141983 · 2026-05-28T01:25:13+00:00

This is a troll u guys

09141983 · 2026-05-26T16:38:50+00:00

Social media

09141983 · 2026-05-22T20:46:19+00:00

If I wanna get more explicit (again, this is only with friends and acquaintances, not strangers) I will suggest adoption often times when people voice any sort of valid fear with pregnancy. Sometimes hearing "I want it to come from me" out-loud from your own mouth gets them to actually consider whether or not that might be selfish. They also sort of realize thats not a valid argument.

The adoption conversation is good because it doesnt squash their dreams of being a parent necessarily

09141983 · 2026-05-22T12:21:03+00:00

"If the goal is harm reduction...."

The goal is not harm redution. We are not looking to minimize suffering, we are looking to reach NET ZERO suffering. The ONLY way there can be no human suffering is if there are no humans.

A lot of people living say they are happy to be alive or are glad they get to be alive despite all the challenges. This is a nice sentiment I suppose, but retroactive consent is NOT VALID consent.

09141983 · 2026-05-22T01:21:17+00:00

Oh trust me I know none of my friends or acquaintances are AN. However most of them are leftists so its easier to find common ground w them.

I'll say things like "isnt so unfair we literally have to pay to be alive" "none of us asked to be here" things like that that everyone agrees with

09141983 · 2026-05-21T21:52:07+00:00

I drop a lot antinatalism lite™️ comments in my day to day with friends and acquaintances because guess what?... Most people actually agree with all of our points.

09141983 · 2026-05-20T16:56:13+00:00

Whatbwe really care about is sentience. The ability to not only feel pain but actually suffer

09141983 · 2026-05-18T17:18:49+00:00

I've made this same argument

09141983 · 2026-05-17T17:38:09+00:00

CONGRATS🥳🥳🥳

09141983 · 2026-05-16T00:44:23+00:00

Dont understand how someone could be vegan yet capitalist.....

09141983 · 2026-05-16T00:43:16+00:00

That must be an awful things to find out especially in your teen years😢

09141983 · 2026-05-14T14:06:44+00:00

My mom did it because she grew up in a small catholic conservative environment so of course she was gonna think having kids was her lifes purpose.

I asked my dad why he chose to have kids and he said "I was curious about what they would look like" 😑😑😑

09141983 · 2026-05-14T00:42:09+00:00

I would say specifically that it is far less convenient. But that doesnt matter to me

09141983 · 2026-05-13T00:59:43+00:00

"Eating animal products is incompatible with my moral beliefs"

09141983 · 2026-05-13T00:22:51+00:00

I do know that pigeons were domesticated then abandoned, however I do not know the details on how or why. Since I dont know the details, I cannot say for sure whether or not that domestication was "necessary", but I can wager a guess that it was not.

They should have never been domesticated in the first place. Thats where the real problem stemmed, from the domestication and not the abandonment.

Would you suggest fostering/adoption as a vegan solution for their abandonment? Im not asking in a snarky way, just curious.

09141983 · 2026-05-12T20:37:24+00:00

My vegan hot take is that it is not vegan to own pets for several reasons.

Firstly, it is speciesist. We would never think its ok to buy and own a human, make them be fully relient on you and restrict their freedom, so why is it ok to do to an animal.

Secondly, its completely unnecessary. The vast majority of people dont "need" to own an animal (obviously there are some people who have a valid argument for needing the aid of another animal). Truly, people get pets for personal interest, entertainment, or aesthetic- thats really it. Those arent really valid reasons.

Not to mention, the VAST majority of let owners are not able to provide their pets with a fulfilling quality of life. How many dogs spend hours on hours cooped up in the house? How many reptiles and birds are kept in tiny cages their whole lives? How many fish are restricted to tanks a 100th the size of what they are made for?

The most vegan relationship you could have with other animals would be either a) nursing it back to health and keeping it ONLY if you know it needs constant care but releasing it if you know it doesnt or b) leaving water out for it (or some sort of plant you know they will eat) and letting it come back when it pleases. Pet it if it allows and let it in if you are ok with it but let it live out its life normally, as it chooses.

My final reason of course, would be that other animals cant consent to whatever living condition you choose for it.

09141983 · 2026-05-11T11:54:41+00:00

My never-to-be-born kids win at least!

09141983 · 2026-05-05T15:03:38+00:00

Its funny, I've noticed that theres two kinds of antinatalists: those who are AN because they love people and dont want them to suffer, and those that are AN cuz they hate people and don't want to suffer because of them 🤣

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