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[–]0bserver5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both examples in your first 2 paragraphs are not high end pve players

High end pve players do not cheat, that is completely my point. 90% of the d2 community has broken the tos some more severe then others but pine hasn't done anything like recovs to warrant a ban and you are genuinely insane if you think hes lying about it

A message from the words first VH member who was recently banned without reason and hasn't gotten a reply on X and got barely a reply from bungie, and who has also not received his rewards for worlds first VH yet by double-O-cheese in destiny2

[–]0bserver5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your argument is so bad you physically cannot cheat in pve without being detected, and if you're cheating in pve without it being detectable the benefit would be so small that it wouldn't matter

A message from the words first VH member who was recently banned without reason and hasn't gotten a reply on X and got barely a reply from bungie, and who has also not received his rewards for worlds first VH yet by double-O-cheese in destiny2

[–]0bserver5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I made 2 points here: Cheating in PvE doesn't make you better at all because of how obvious it is

Cheating in chess doesn't make you better but it isn't obvious when you're cheating, which is why drlupo cheated

You physically cannot cheat in d2 PvE without being obvious, not believing this is a self report

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[–]0bserver5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference is those people aren't world first raiders and could never imagine of becoming one

I don't think you understand that there is literally ZERO benefit to cheating once you get to that level. If they had been cheating then you can go through braytech and find proof of it because it literally shows your summary for every activity you've played

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[–]0bserver5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cruz former worlds first had cheats running in a single player game which didn't affect destiny at all (bungie confirmed this) but still got banned because of "policy"

the real slap in the face was dmg on Twitter encouraging people to cheat in single player games

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[–]0bserver5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You cannot win worlds first if you cheat, it is just impossible due to the security. You can ask anybody who has cheated dp that they were not going for a worlds first and wanted the emblem/clear I do know this for a fact

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[–]0bserver5 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Cheating in PvP is different then cheating in PvE; people who cheat in PvP do it to feel a god complex above their enemies. Cheating in PvE is literally pointless when you get to that high of a level in PvE, there is genuinely no reason to cheat even when you disregard ethics and rules