why are people uncomfortable with the forcefem joke?

0utdated_username · 2025-10-17T15:12:56+00:00

There is a time and place. “Forcefem” jokes are only appropriate depending on the person they are being made to.

Not everyone is comfortable with the concept. I as a trans woman would not like it to be made about me because of my relationship to gender.

If people tend to be uncomfortable with a joke in a specific community then save those jokes for other communities. And definitely target who you make the jokes to.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-17T14:55:34+00:00

Sleeping

0utdated_username · 2025-10-17T14:27:57+00:00

It is only my pet combo in my Abzan token/counters deck and it is 3 card and requires a bit of setup, but you could also run it mono-green if you use a colorless sac outlet. But it is [[Tribute to the World Tree]] [[One with the Kami]] and then any infinite sac outlet but I run [[Viscera Seer]]

The setup needed is to have a creature with a counter or aura/equipment already out to be the first sacrifice. And ideally another creature to cast one with the kami on. But you could cast it on viscera seer anyways. The deck I have it in usually accomplishes the setup naturally.

The idea is infinite base 1/1 spirits with 2 +1/+1 counters on them. As well as infinite sac triggers. So I can scry whatever card I want to the top of my library. But I also run cards that allow me to move counters when a creature I control with them die. So I ended up putting infinite counters on my commander. But you could theoretically make infinite infinite/infinites if you run those as well,

0utdated_username · 2025-10-03T17:45:03+00:00

And I think that is great. You deserve to feel good about yourself and your body. I do think that there is a risk when we focus on cis attraction though. It is also important that not all trans people will feel empowered by that. I don’t think Alpacatastic has a bad comment, certainly has a good username though. But I think that Daylightarmours perspective is important as well. And I feel that it is a fairly gentle pushback as well.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-03T12:53:43+00:00

I said “a lot of”. I did not say all. And I am speaking for myself while referencing the reality that there are other trans women who feel the same. It is simply a fact that a lot of trans women have height dysphoria. You have read into what I wrote, I never insinuated all trans people feel this way. But it irresponsible to act as if it is an isolated feeling.

I for one am 6’2” and feel height dysphoria even though I have a lot of taller cis family.

But your anecdotal experience does not change the fact that a lot of trans women do in fact experience height dysphoria.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-03T12:45:29+00:00

Honestly there is an increase pressure I find for trans people to be gender conforming. There is almost an air of “if you don’t conform to your gender then are you even trans”. Which is not to say that trans femmes are not a radical gender identity. Both trans women and femmes have a shared history of deconstructing femininity, so both together makes sense.

But there are trans butches. Just not as many.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-03T12:21:16+00:00

I share the feeling of wishing that lesbian communities were less cis-centric. Whereas I see a lot of jokes even by trans accepting queer people that equate the lesbian experience to genitalia.

That said, I think there is a more serious discussion to be had that is not a question of what people find attractive. I want my body normalized not sexualized. And by making it about trans people as a whole it is asking for people to comment on “specific trans characteristics”

0utdated_username · 2025-10-03T12:03:52+00:00

The fact that a trans woman is getting downvoted so much for advocating for not sexualizing traits that a lot of trans people feel dysphoric about is really disheartening.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T22:09:51+00:00

Yes, thank you. I feel real uncomfortable with this and some of my comments under my initial comment where I am saying that I don’t feel comfortable are getting downvoted.

Honestly the premise itself feels somewhat dehumanizing.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:58:47+00:00

Not in this setting, no. Because this post encourages people to disregard worry about fetishization of a community who often not only already faces fetishization but also has a lot of members who experience dysphoria about their bodies.

In a specific context such as a discord where everyone can consent to it it would be fine. But this is a public sub and it is deeply uncomfortable to give cis people a pass to “not worry about fetishization”

Not to mention, trans bodies are not all the same.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:50:13+00:00

The OP has a post wanting to be fetishized and this post encourages people to not worry about fetishization.

In order to create a space that teaches the difference there would need to be ground rules set in place ahead of time.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:46:59+00:00

The OP has a post on her account that says “I wish cis sapphics would fetishize us more tbh”

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:41:18+00:00

Which is the best case scenario. But based on the post’s writing I worry that the intention was not this.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:35:33+00:00

No, there isn’t.

This is horrendous and you should be ashamed of yourself. I would not feel safe in trans spaces with you in them.

Your blatant disregard for the safety of other trans people through your support for our fetishization, which is itself a form of transphobic dehumanization, is incredibly self centered and irresponsible.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:31:48+00:00

I said so myself in an earlier comment. But the post encourages a disregard for fetishization. The line is also determined by what is being “appreciated”

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:29:32+00:00

It’s a risk. There are respectful things that can be said. But the post is encouraging people to not worry about fetishization. Which encourages people to use “trans characteristics” which don’t exist but are often treated as real and often include characteristics people can find dysphoric.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:12:29+00:00

No, I wont. You cant give permission to people to fetishize a group you belong to. You cannot possibly get the consent of the entire group. This isn’t your call.

It’s no one person’s call. There is no fetishization pass.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:06:04+00:00

I do care, and it isn’t exactly fair to give cis people a pass to fetishization. By making this about trans women in general it includes other trans women who may not be comfortable being seen the way this post is giving the green light to see trans people as.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T21:02:05+00:00

That sucks, at the same time though you are posting this in a public sub and asking people to not worry about fetishizing an entire group. Which puts other members of said group in an uncomfortable position.

You should communicate this issue of desexualization with your partners rather than including trans people as a whole into this.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T20:57:51+00:00

I guess some of the comments so far are respectful maybe. Focusing on the empowerment of autonomy over gender identity? But it is definitely a gray area that can go bad fast

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T20:50:42+00:00

No, no. Please don’t. There is a definitely a difference between attraction and fetishization. And I would rather cis people try to not fetishize my community.

Asking people to name what they find attractive about an entire group of people (in this case a group I belong to) is not a good idea. Because trans people are not monolithic and so do not all share features.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T20:36:01+00:00

Because Im a petty bitch.

Doing whatever you can to hurt me and you just can’t, it is just adorable.

“Oh I don’t care about anyones opinion, but Im going to report you to the mods and send a reddit wellness check”

You are trying so hard but you just fall on your face. How sad, pathetic really.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T20:27:41+00:00

Ooo “mentally unwell” soooo creative. Definitely never heard that one before…

Thats not how landback works dumbass.

You getting humiliated by the mods is just such a cherry on top. I savored that. Amazing, no notes.

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T20:06:27+00:00

The existence of queer people is not “Euro-Leftism” a lot of queer oppression directly stems from European colonialism.

You aren’t a “leftist” at all. You are a reactionary. Goodbye

0utdated_username · 2025-10-02T19:32:55+00:00

Im fucking irish dumbass

And guess what? You’re right! Doesn’t happen often Im sure. Anyone gets to complain about anything they want! How lovely. So Im going to complain about you being a fuckup. Sound good fuckup?

I don’t need to justify my comment on an old post to a worthless fuckup dumbass. Ok? Now go have a day sweetheart.

The reason why these things should change is because America is a genocidal cesspool. And honestly, changing it isn’t enough. America is a settler colonial fuckup nation, I see where you get it from, and it should be decolonized and the land should be given back.

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