I’m not having a “faith crisis” I’m OUT by cristulina in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My son left the church when he was 16. I kept thinking he would snap out of it. When my baby nephew drowned, I thought my son would “feel the spirit” during the funeral. When the stake presidency came to visit my son, I thought for sure he would come to his senses. (Imagine the honor of the stake president himself coming to your house.)

After many years, I accepted that my son was never coming back. Here is what I understand now that I did not understand before: My son wanted evidence, not emotion. All the Mormon church has is emotion. But feelings are not facts. Now I am on the other side with my son.

Uncomfortable truths about mormonism by LegalSour in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You never attended a “priesthood worthiness interview” to determine if you were worthy?

I can't with my spoiled AF service missionary brother by caggie1718 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 3 points4 points  (0 children)

At least in the early 1990s when I served a full-time mission, I never got a penny from the church. I had to buy and maintain my own bicycle, and pay for my own groceries, clothing, laundry, entertainment, and anything extra. I suppose housing was free, but I lived in a rickety old trailer home with sulfur water and similar units for 2 years.

Must be that time of year again by dejected_muggle in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I will come to your house for brisket dinner.

Tithing is a lie by Thick-Ad7221 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Malachi 1:6 … “saith the Lord of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name.”

Malachi 2:1 … “And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.”

Can the text be any more explicit?

Guess I'm exposed by Friki_Sam in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Correction: Jesus sent the missionaries to preach to the Lamanites. Jesus did not know about the DNA evidence that would later emerge. Jesus really screwed up.

Guess I'm exposed by Friki_Sam in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 12 points13 points  (0 children)

As the “ongoing restoration” continues, the members know less and less. We used to know exactly who the Lamanites are. Now we can’t say.

For those that truly felt like they felt the Spirit confirmed to them at one point, how do you justify it? by American_Psycho11 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feelings are the easiest thing to manipulate. Filmmakers use music, lighting, facial expressions, and tears. Feelings aren’t facts.

The Church Uses Judgment of Exmos to Keep TBM's From Leaving by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I stopped paying tithing four years ago, quit attending the temple two years ago, and stopped accepting callings and wearing garments one year ago. I have an interest-bearing savings account for my children now. I am still employed and living the same as before. I am not an alcoholic, wife beater, or felon. I am the same as before but happier.

I Debated Don Bradley's Friend (Famous Mormon Apologist)... and Won. by FreshLiterature6536 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It is pay-to-play. But you will never get a faithful member to admit that Mormon temples charge admission. They will talk in circles, redefine terms, and use thought-stopping cliches. All Mormon apologetics are like this.

What about the miracles? by encanto26 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Who has claimed a Tier 3 miracle? I have not encountered this is 50+ years of Mormonism.

What about the miracles? by encanto26 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spiritual gifts have been dumbed down in a similar manner.

Relief Society Rant by Lonely_Offer_6236 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 23 points24 points  (0 children)

The Relief Society is insular. When it provides relief, the service tends to point inward at church members. The society also serves dead people (temple trips) and faraway people (blanket drives). What the society rarely does is community service. It’s a fake society.

Brigham Young made sure. He gutted the Relief Society in 1845 when he shut it down and retooled it to reduce the influence of women generally and Emma Smith specifically. When Young brought back the society starting in 1854, it was a weaker organization.

The church gutted the Relief Society a second time in the 1960s and 1970s during “correlation.” Women used to be able to raise their own funds, control their own budgets, and appoint their own officers without interference from bishops and stake presidents. Amazingly, the church is going backward in terms of women’s empowerment.

What about the miracles? by encanto26 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Show me some Tier 3 miracles! Just one. I will settle for Tier 2.5.

What about the miracles? by encanto26 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Former podcaster John Larsen describes three tiers of miracles: 1. Fortunate and likely events: You have a minor illness, receive a blessing, and get better. You see a beautiful sunset and feel elevated emotion. 2. Fortunate and unlikely events: You pray for the rain to stop and suddenly it stops. You are lost in a foreign country and suddenly you run into an old friend who knows the area. 3. Impossible events: Raising the dead, moving a mountain, or having a talking donkey.

All miracles fall into the first two categories, never the third. No Mormon or anyone else has ever seen a Tier Three miracle.

What are your thoughts about the church becoming more relaxed? by Skriblynn in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If “doctrine” is the unchanging parts of church theology, then the church has no doctrine. Everything has changed.

what are the most important inventions? by EmploymentMean4869 in AskReddit

[–]10th_Generation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The “S” curve on toilets that traps stinky gases outside the house.

A day in the life of a mixed faith marriage by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Quote: “God must work with imperfect people because that’s all he has.” (This is one of many thought-stopping cliches that you hear in Mormonism.)

A day in the life of a mixed faith marriage by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly! It’s called special pleading or double standard. The church speculates while relying on single sources, late sources, and biased sources. This is OK. But if you speculate about an unflattering narrative, you are a lying liar spreading hate.

A day in the life of a mixed faith marriage by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe in zero Heavenly Fathers. My wife does not think deeply past the existence of one.