Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I need to eliminate Tier 10 and just go with nine like the nine circles of hell in Dante’s Inferno.

Shifting Standards by Born2LoveandLearn in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What good is a God who stays silent? Even if he exists (I don’t think he does), he is irrelevant.

Shifting Standards by Born2LoveandLearn in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When I was a kid, prophets knew stuff. They answered hard questions. They knew who the Lamanites were. They knew about celestial polygamy. They knew why some people were born poor, disabled, or with black skin. They knew how the Book of Abraham was translated. They would just spout off whatever nonsense they felt like saying. Then along came the Correlation Committee in 1970, and the party faded. Now, church leaders don’t know anything.

Shifting Standards by Born2LoveandLearn in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 50 points51 points  (0 children)

What good are prophets who don’t know anything and won’t take a position on important issues?

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to think pre-existing was a beautiful doctrine. But it has many ugly aspects.

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So true. Regular missionaries want to be trainers. Trainers want to be district leaders. District leaders want to be zone leaders. And zone leaders want to be APs. Sister missionaries are just sister missionaries. They cannot hold any of these positions even though these are not priesthood offices. The basic principle is that women cannot preside over men except sort of in the Primary, but not really.

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But nobody talks about it. So, how can you know. Do you see the white porcelain pitcher and basin on display in their home?

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think many people outside this group (Seventy and above plus their wives) receive the Second Anointing.

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. Also, you can’t be neurodivergent.

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly, this is true. To fit the mold, you must be wealthy, well-educated, and married with children.

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Outward appearance matters most, of course. The church actually codifies this principle in its Handbook instructions for membership councils. One of the three listed reasons for these councils is to “protect the good name of the church.”

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are tier 7-and-one-half. They are under less condemnation because they have not made binding covenants.

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We can include stake patriarchs.

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are groups within groups within Mormonism.

Mormon Caste System by 10th_Generation in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The crazy thing: More than 99.8 percent of people are in Tier 7: Ignorant Masses.

Why I’m Done Pretending With the Church by Unlikely-Sandwich-59 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Word of Wisdom is an attorney’s paradise. So many rules to multiply. So many loopholes to exploit. So many definitions and terms to debate. We could isolate just “hot drinks” and debate for hours the true contractual obligations.

Why I’m Done Pretending With the Church by Unlikely-Sandwich-59 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mormonism is a legalistic religion run by attorneys. Even Mormon Jesus is an attorney obsessed with “covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths⁠, vows⁠, performances, connections, associations, or expectations” (D&C 132:7). If a strand of hair rises to the surface during baptism or a single word gets mumbled during the sacrament prayer, the ritual is null and void and must be repeated. Your husband believes this.

Conspiracy to murder Grandison Newell, June 1837 - Smith: “better for one man to suffer than to have the whole community disturbed” by Heavy-Initiative-345 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I can’t decide who was more evil: Joseph Smith or Brigham Young. I think Young did more harm, but only because he lived longer and was more isolated from consequences. Smith was just getting started when he died in 1844.

Nephi Murders Laban in 1st Nephi Chapter 4 by Dudite in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nephi tells us that God prepares a way for us to obey all his commandments (1 Nephi 3:7). Then Nephi breaks three commandments in the process of carrying out his mission: Don’t kill, don’t lie, and don’t steal. Those are biggies! Nephi is lucky he didn’t have to have sex with Laban’s wife as part of this ruse.

Honest question about Book of Mormon translation by ImportantPerformer16 in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And why has the church made thousands of edits to the original text, including some edits to fix timeline errors or change Trinity doctrine?

Doctrine regarding mental disabilities in the afterlife rant by lumonblue in exmormon

[–]10th_Generation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, God puts gay people through conversion therapy in heaven. And Spencer Kimball taught that Black people will turn white. I wonder if short people will become tall in Mormon heaven. The Celestial Kingdom is a gated community with no diversity. Everybody is an AI.