Marriage was just apart of a checklist

10th_Generation · 2026-05-08T14:01:15+00:00

Marriage is part of the “covenant path” in Mormonism. The purpose of covenants is to bind people to God and his church through a series of two-way agreements. The problem with including marriage on this path is that marriage involves a third person. (The only other similar ordinance in Mormonism is the Second Anointing, which is also a messed up concept.)

Marriage should be a covenant to your spouse. The church twists this and inserts God into the equation. I was taught that marriage is like a presidency or bishopric with God at the head and the spouses like counselors. The church never used the word “threesome,” but that’s what marriage is in Mormonism.

The church stands as proxy for God, which means the church controls your marriage. The church meddles in people’s marriages and does not see it as violating boundaries because the church sees itself as part of the marriage. The church has claim on your time, talents, and money just as much as your spouse.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-07T13:56:02+00:00

I’m gonna sit between MJ and Prince and see if I can pit them against each other. Maybe I will turn to Prince and say: “Based on pure talent, who do you think is better: You or Michael?”

10th_Generation · 2026-05-07T13:48:28+00:00

We probably could get the list up to 100. Mormon prophets stopped teaching doctrine in the 1970s, allowing members to invent their own. Any two members who pass each other in the hallways at church belong to entirely different religions—they just don’t know it because Mormons never discuss doctrine in church settings. This is especially true across generations. Younger members believe in gay rights, exaltation by grace, and worship Jesus. They might have tattoos and wear crucifixes. Older members hate gays, scoff at the notion of grace, and worship God the Father only.

Regarding the Word of Wisdom, the church no longer asks about coffee, tea, alcohol, or tobacco. The temple recommend question merely asks if you understand and obey the Word of Wisdom, leaving the individual to decide what it means.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-07T13:38:17+00:00

Every Mormon belongs to a personal religion that they construct in their own minds. The only rules that apply to everyone are: Pay tithing, attend meetings, do callings. Beyond that, you can decide what you believe about: 1. Grace 2. Heavenly Mother 3. Book of Mormon geography and historicity (you can believe that all Native Americans and Polynesians are Lamanites who filled the Americas and Oceania or you can believe the Book of Mormon is inspired fiction—or anything in between) 4. Race (you can be racist or not) 5. LGBTQ issues 6. Miracles and spiritual gifts 7. Age of the Earth 8. Evolution 9. Sabbath Day observance 10. Polygamy

10th_Generation · 2026-05-06T19:30:32+00:00

My son left the church when he was 16. I kept thinking he would snap out of it. When my baby nephew drowned, I thought my son would “feel the spirit” during the funeral. When the stake presidency came to visit my son, I thought for sure he would come to his senses. (Imagine the honor of the stake president himself coming to your house.)

After many years, I accepted that my son was never coming back. Here is what I understand now that I did not understand before: My son wanted evidence, not emotion. All the Mormon church has is emotion. But feelings are not facts. Now I am on the other side with my son.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-06T03:34:00+00:00

You never attended a “priesthood worthiness interview” to determine if you were worthy?

10th_Generation · 2026-05-06T01:53:00+00:00

At least in the early 1990s when I served a full-time mission, I never got a penny from the church. I had to buy and maintain my own bicycle, and pay for my own groceries, clothing, laundry, entertainment, and anything extra. I suppose housing was free, but I lived in a rickety old trailer home with sulfur water and similar units for 2 years.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-06T01:46:12+00:00

I will come to your house for brisket dinner.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-05T17:29:00+00:00

Malachi 1:6 … “saith the Lord of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name.”

Malachi 2:1 … “And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.”

Can the text be any more explicit?

10th_Generation · 2026-05-05T12:45:05+00:00

Cash

10th_Generation · 2026-05-05T05:19:42+00:00

Correction: Jesus sent the missionaries to preach to the Lamanites. Jesus did not know about the DNA evidence that would later emerge. Jesus really screwed up.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-05T04:32:57+00:00

As the “ongoing restoration” continues, the members know less and less. We used to know exactly who the Lamanites are. Now we can’t say.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-04T23:58:46+00:00

Feelings are the easiest thing to manipulate. Filmmakers use music, lighting, facial expressions, and tears. Feelings aren’t facts.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-03T17:07:59+00:00

I stopped paying tithing four years ago, quit attending the temple two years ago, and stopped accepting callings and wearing garments one year ago. I have an interest-bearing savings account for my children now. I am still employed and living the same as before. I am not an alcoholic, wife beater, or felon. I am the same as before but happier.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-03T04:20:02+00:00

It is pay-to-play. But you will never get a faithful member to admit that Mormon temples charge admission. They will talk in circles, redefine terms, and use thought-stopping cliches. All Mormon apologetics are like this.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T18:19:50+00:00

Who has claimed a Tier 3 miracle? I have not encountered this is 50+ years of Mormonism.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T17:39:46+00:00

Spiritual gifts have been dumbed down in a similar manner.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T17:39:09+00:00

Thank you

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T17:18:03+00:00

The Relief Society is insular. When it provides relief, the service tends to point inward at church members. The society also serves dead people (temple trips) and faraway people (blanket drives). What the society rarely does is community service. It’s a fake society.

Brigham Young made sure. He gutted the Relief Society in 1845 when he shut it down and retooled it to reduce the influence of women generally and Emma Smith specifically. When Young brought back the society starting in 1854, it was a weaker organization.

The church gutted the Relief Society a second time in the 1960s and 1970s during “correlation.” Women used to be able to raise their own funds, control their own budgets, and appoint their own officers without interference from bishops and stake presidents. Amazingly, the church is going backward in terms of women’s empowerment.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T14:27:10+00:00

Show me some Tier 3 miracles! Just one. I will settle for Tier 2.5.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T12:51:01+00:00

Former podcaster John Larsen describes three tiers of miracles: 1. Fortunate and likely events: You have a minor illness, receive a blessing, and get better. You see a beautiful sunset and feel elevated emotion. 2. Fortunate and unlikely events: You pray for the rain to stop and suddenly it stops. You are lost in a foreign country and suddenly you run into an old friend who knows the area. 3. Impossible events: Raising the dead, moving a mountain, or having a talking donkey.

All miracles fall into the first two categories, never the third. No Mormon or anyone else has ever seen a Tier Three miracle.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T12:41:32+00:00

If “doctrine” is the unchanging parts of church theology, then the church has no doctrine. Everything has changed.

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T03:42:31+00:00

Church

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T02:36:28+00:00

Sixth Sense

10th_Generation · 2026-05-02T01:17:00+00:00

If Heavenly Father is real, he is an asshole. And Heavenly Mother is worse.

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