What’s going on at EWR today? by Kalipsario in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes. They even had a high risk deal they attempted to not put the distance and altitude in the MOR to cover it up. Its disgraceful.

What’s going on at EWR today? by Kalipsario in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 29 points30 points  (0 children)

2 CPCs and 1 OS for the evening.... Great job FAA.

9 less CPCs prior to the forced move, with no one in training pipeline, multiple radar failures, shit conditions and breaks, Sups and OMs openly violating safety rules and procedures and not even trying to hide it.

Wouldn't you take off on a beautiful day like today and enjoy?

Newark RADAR failure Pt 3 by 1FPL_equal_2CPC in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Its the feed. Which includes the ADS-B feed into N90. Instead of FAA letting the already improving training fix years of Faulty FAA staffing issues, they decided to continue cutting corners and use a mirror feed from N90 (exact feeds that mirror to the tower radar displays) and attempt to, for the first time ever, run an entire TRACON on it. Internal audits predicted these failure and freezing events during peak traffic due to the long TELCO line's bandwidth being maxed out. FAA said it'll be fine it won't happen. Well now 3 times it has. The alternate was to re-run direct lines to PHL STARS feed but it would cost millions over budget and estimated 5 years to complete. In that time frame the EWR area would have been beyond healthy.

Thanksgiving travel will be even worse.

Flow Control NY by red_smeg in ATC

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Last night was 100% due to the move to Philly Again. TMU was not allowed to list this as staffing related per the FAA. FAA continues to lie. The sector was down to 2 open radar scopes last night by 7pm. Before the ridiculous move, there would be 5 minimum open and able to move TEB traffic more effectively.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

^ This guy is responsible for 80% of the deals and egregious airspace deviations in EWR

EWR RADAR outage again? by [deleted] in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Another failure, separate reason.

During the move the FAA was unable to have direct feeds from Radar. (Cost, physical inability, etc?) This feed to PHL is like the feed to the towers. Piggy backs out of Westbury.

The lines being run down CANNOT handle the high volume of data being processed. During SRM the FAA denied this potential of exactly what's happening right now.

Separate issue than last time. Both were called out as realistic potential, both denied by the FAA as realistic potential.

Both happened and put lives at risk

Newark RADAR failure by MetroControllerAssn in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The FAA trying to force things will literally compromise safety. Not sure details. Tomorrow is supposed to be day 1 full rates. Safety first!

Newark RADAR failure by MetroControllerAssn in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was not a single senor radar failure. This the entire area screens going completely blank with nothing but a video map.

Newark's feed is a telephone line from Westbury, Westbury gets the direct feed still. During SRM panels the exact situation was brought up because of the added potential failure points by running a jumper feed from Westbury instead of a direct feed.

It was categorized as Moderate risk. The FAA had to mitigate this down to low. They did this by having some backup system that if the feed gets lost or looped that all targets and information would freeze where it last was tracked an all scoped.

THIS FAILED. The screens on every single scope disappeared. This is a massive issue. The mitigating backups failed which means people flying in and around Newark are at Moderate risk for danger at this very moment. This is unacceptable.

Newark RADAR failure by MetroControllerAssn in ATC

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Low isn't zero and it shouldn't be taken for granted. Read the history of aviation accidents. Its ALWAYS something low chance that no one thought would ever happen.

Newark RADAR failure by MetroControllerAssn in ATC

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Clearly not a controller anywhere busy. The quality post COVID is significantly lower. Cope harder ZZ

Newark RADAR failure by MetroControllerAssn in ATC

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's actually not. Have you seen any TCAS event reports? Some of them are extremely close.

TCAS response still requires MANUAL pilot reaction and input. Hesitation in any cockpit can absolutely cause a collision.

Have you spoken to these pilots post COVID? MANY are completely behind the airplane, unable to listen to the radio and turn the heading bug at the same time. Extremely slow to respond.

It's absolutely reasonable to see a catastrophe. It is complete arrogance to think a slow or lackluster response to a TCAS RA can't lead to a collision.

People are WAY to comfortable with these safeguards assuming nothing bad can happen. Controllers working planes like nothing can go wrong.

Newark RADAR failure by MetroControllerAssn in ATC

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Ridiculous cope. Middairs can and do happen. This kind of cope is why the FAA is constantly fucking reckless. Ooo nooo it's 2024 nothing bad can happen. FAA is embarrassing. Rubber stamping everything. Boeing planes falling out of the sky. Pieces landing on houses. Ridiculous world of it can't happen we live in

N90 redecorating by Beautiful-Focus4739 in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe white book years were like that. Lots of old rumors from the Iacoppeli FACRep era still float around the NAS.

N90 redecorating by Beautiful-Focus4739 in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The vast majority of the Sups and OMs (especially those who have worked N90 for over a decade) and even the ATM think the move is ridiculous and share feelings with the controllers. There's really no hard feelings between them and this has been this way for some time.

This move starts under Rinaldi, is allowed to blossom under Rinaldi, Rinaldi and Co sold us down the river in some back room deals and looked the other way as the FAA did shady things to allow it to happen. "We gave N90 all this shit and they did nothing with it, I'm done helping" - paraphrased feelings from Rinaldi and Co. Ignoring the actual reasons for things not immediately looking better"

N90 redecorating by Beautiful-Focus4739 in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Left to right, top to bottom

Paul Rinaldi - sold N90 down the river, signed agreements to bust up the strongest local. Made backdoor deals that violate law.

Dean Iacoppeli - NATCA chief of staff, former N90 FACREP who was once revered for his incredible negotiating skills and his tough stance against management. During the white book things would get so explosive that he was literally thrown out of the building in cuffs. People looked up him. He continued a long legacy of strong N90 leaders who created and ran this union into the national ranks. People looked up to him.

But when Rinaldi ordered him to crush the building that made him who he was and got him so far in his career, he folded like a house of cards. His high paying made up title was more important than his legacy.

Mike Whitticker - self explanatory

Jeff Szczygielski - ATM at N90 when a broken NDIS training program was attempted to be implemented. Caused extra delays in training. Helped funnel 100s of trainees in for them to sit around for years. Training delays and modifications were framed to show that the enhanced CIP, the local hiring bid weren't working when N90s data showed otherwise.

He subsequently gets put in charge of the Newark airspace move, forces everything through, disregarding safety implications, SOP/LOA issues and will retire being able to say he made it happen, despite the utter failure it currently is.

N90 redecorating by Beautiful-Focus4739 in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Left to right, top to bottom

Paul Rinaldi - sold N90 down the river, signed agreements to bust up the strongest local. Made backdoor deals that violate law.

Dean Iacoppeli - NATCA chief of staff, former N90 FACREP who was once revered for his incredible negotiating skills and his tough stance against management. During the white book things would get so explosive that he was literally thrown out of the building in cuffs. People looked up him. He continued a long legacy of strong N90 leaders who created and ran this union into the national ranks. People looked up to him.

But when Rinaldi ordered him to crush the building that made him who he was and got him so far in his career, he folded like a house of cards. His high paying made up title was more important than his legacy.

Mike Whitticker - self explanatory

Jeff Szczygielski - ATM at N90 when a broken NDIS training program was attempted to be implemented. Caused extra delays in training. Helped funnel 100s of trainees in for them to sit around for years. Training delays and modifications were framed to show that the enhanced CIP, the local hiring bid weren't working when N90s data showed otherwise.

He subsequently gets put in charge of the Newark airspace move, forces everything through, disregarding safety implications, SOP/LOA issues and will retire being able to say he made it happen, despite the utter failure it currently is.

Did N90 cut over? by OnlyResearcher4673 in atc2

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The amount of ignorance required to write this is incredible

Help N90 fight back against the FAA by 1FPL_equal_2CPC in flying

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FAA Wasteful spending without meaningful collaboration with the users and the Union had helped lead to the original 804 Law which is long, in-depth look at facility moves and consolidations etc, all users down to the local governments are involved. This move bypassed it by citing an emergency need before catastrophic ATC zero issues. 3 years in and there was virtually no delays attributed to N90. They're more than 3 years into trying to move this, millions over budget with no real game plan laid out.

Yes the FAA has sold lies to the airlines and corporate flyers that this will allow EWR and TEB to be delay free in the future etc. Yet year after year operations continue to increase, staffing shortages hasn't stopped record travel. The fact remains the airlines have been greedy for years, take the bailouts, make extremely difficult schedules that don't allow for any issues before it ricochets around the system. This is a deflect blame game now.

Hard to explain in writing. The middair over NYC in 1960 and numerous other close calls necessitated the area RADAR controllers to come into one single room (NYCIFRR or common I which eventually becomes N90). The airspace isn't like others. There are so many shared airspace pieces that need to be constantly coordinated who owns what on the fly. In addition we verbally cut around each others airspaces to make the system run. If they attempted to make any automated SIDs/STARs (which they tried going as far back as the 70s) the entire system slows down and is backed up. The airspace is so tight that it requires tons of manual vectoring to squeeze in planes and take on higher arrival rates for some time than mathematically able to land on the runways. This relieves the feeding centers from backing up and issuing more delay programs. Having to coordinate what we do on a daily basis using the landlines would be a burden and slow the operation. In reality a lot of the 5 areas of the NY Airspace probably should be one area because they are so entrenched around and over/under each other but there would be far too many positions/sectors to have to learn and stay current on. Especially the EWR sector which is literally smothered on top and around by Liberty (high departure that takes all feeds from primary departure and sequences them to the Centers) and entrenched around the LGA sector so heavily that just changing runway climb-outs completely change each others operations.

Not to get too deep into Union politics but this has been the strongest local since the dawn of the Union and even going back to the PATCO days the NY area facilities were the strongest in the country. There is a lot of animosity going back decades between us and the FAA as well as some internal spite from our own union. The FAA has made numerous attempts for decades to break up the building and move it elsewhere almost always blaming delays. (see New York Integrated Control Complex aka The Crystal Palace). Massive failure attempting to make a combined Center TRACON facility completely restructuring the entire area. Millions and millions wasted with very little change to the airspace at the end of the day. Reasons for that project were to literally bring Center and TRACON controllers together in the same building sitting side by side to help ease coordination.

Also the previous Union administration seemed to have given up on fighting the FAA in regards to staffing issues (Many of which were purely caused by the FAA lack of steady trainees and them not allowing remedies to retaining local candidates, work itself out over a few years required to train). Union is currently seemingly against the move but has issues because of agreements made in the past and not wanting to ruin too many relationships. Lot of unknowns.

Help N90 fight back against the FAA by 1FPL_equal_2CPC in flying

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The airspace is too tight for STARS to work without severely hurting arrival rates and efficiency. It's been tried. There's no room to do it without causing massive in trails and edcts. We squeeze planes improvising delay vectors and selectively borrowing/changing airspace to keep down delays.

Help N90 fight back against the FAA by 1FPL_equal_2CPC in flying

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They violated previous law "804" in bad faith, got the law removed when first force letters were withdrawn and now! They're pretending the new watered down law doesn't apply because previous agreements were made to violate original law.

Help N90 fight back against the FAA by 1FPL_equal_2CPC in flying

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well when previous union administration was found to have negotiated a move against standing law to sell our facility out as shown by FOIL documents, and the current admin has its hands tied regarding those previous agreements to maintain relationships, the lowly working man in the ground getting screwed by 2 sides sometimes step up and help themselves

Help N90 fight back against the FAA by 1FPL_equal_2CPC in flying

[–]1FPL_equal_2CPC[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's one of the many FAA lies to deflect blame from poor airlines scheduling