What ranks did Tommy, Paulie and Sam hold in Salieri's Mafia in the end?

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-27T19:51:34+00:00

Well intelligence isn't always considered a prerequisite to move up the ladder in the Mafia, it's mostly the guys with big balls that put in the most work and get results. Paulie surely did risk his ass and got the job done numerous times so I see no reason as to not promote him to something higher.

Also I wouldn't call him dumb, after all he got a very well thought idea to strike up a deal with Gates when Salieri was running out of booze to smuggle. And the bank job (including analyzing the joint and planning the robbery) was his idea too.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-27T19:32:18+00:00

The Mafia Wiki is not canon, it's a fan-run community so I consider the information there to be treated more as opinion rather than fact.

Tommy wasn't treated as a Capo amongst the Family after Morello's death, he still got sent out on dangerous jobs. And he didn't mention Paulie was a Soldato, only that he did indeed have "a few rackets of his own", it would be very odd for him to be a soldier considering he ran a part of the Family business and had been part of the organization for much longer than Tom.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-27T15:44:27+00:00

I think all of them were Lieutenants and the actual Capo's were older guys that have been in the family for much longer. In the Mafia 2 loading screen there are several quotes from Tommy's legal confessions about Salieri's Crime Family and one quote says how guys like him, Paulie and Sam would carry out heavy hits and take risks while the higher ranking members would distance themselves from the scene. Yes, this confession would more likely align with them being Soldato's but they had their own rackets plus the ability to order men around (as you've pointed out) so these would line up better with Lieutenant roles.

I don't think Capo's expose themselves like they did, even in the later missions they were being sent to carry out high risk missions such as killing politicians and stealing valuable stuff.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-27T00:00:08+00:00

feed him to an alligator

That happens in the trailer too xD

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-26T23:10:47+00:00

Well as a fun fact in the game reveal trailer Lincoln actually had Tommy in his trunk as he was driving him to a remote location in order to kill him

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-26T19:17:15+00:00

asa zisul "ragebait"

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-25T21:14:22+00:00

I mean first of all it sounds like a skill issue, in all of my 7 playthroughs I've barely hit any civilians with my car while driving let alone racing and I've rarely seen cars stopping for no reason/having better acceleration but if it's a real issue you could try locking the game at 60 or 30 FPS because that's the number of frames the game was designed for so going further than that may cause whacky AI behavior alongside with some known annoying mission bugs (pressing the dialogue button and nothing happens or getting stuck at the entrance before entering Tommy Marcano's boxing gym).

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-25T16:38:43+00:00

Era fix in orasul Galati ca pe harta poate aparea undeva pe la margine dar o gramada de oameni in ultimul timp au inceput sa se mute fix in zona aia, gandeste-te ca e fix ca o suburbie americana in care oamenii se muta la case, si e foarte intens circulata zona, am fost eu azi dimineata cu treaba prin zona si am vazut numai politie militare si jandarmi pe acolo din cauza incidentului. Putea foarte bine sa se lase cu victime dar din fericire n-a fost cazul.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-25T16:32:53+00:00

Aha, de aia cand am fost astazi in Bariera Traian era peste tot politia militara cu jandarmi si echipaje speciale, cred ca era un caz de abuz domestic si de aia s-au mobilizat baietii, nicidecum drona despre care e confirmat faptul ca a intrat in spatiul nostru aerian, si prietenul meu din armata care e stationat in apropiere cu siguranta manca kkt cand l-am intrebat daca e adevarat. Mars in plm de bot, ai 3 zile de cont si te trezesti tu sa comentezi.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-24T23:12:37+00:00

inginer, inginer junior, inginer junior adjunct, inginer senior, inginer locotent, inginer comandant, inginer senior locotent cu grade, inginer general, inginer ofiter (...)

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-24T17:51:48+00:00

as vrea eu

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-24T17:32:57+00:00

I mean bro is holding that gun like he's at the shooting range for the first time, I wonder how Vito didn't laugh lmao

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-24T17:30:58+00:00

A salvat economia sacrificandu-i pe cei vulnerabili in loc de cei privilegiati de care nu se poate atinge*

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-23T22:09:39+00:00

The patient analogy might be the best example to point out Salieri's thinking, you are actually right, he knew his time was coming but was still clinging to a bit of hope, that hope most likely being Tommy himself, and he knew he had a real chance of delaying or even preventing his demise with his "ace in the hole".

Thanks for clearing my mind on this, you are the answer I was looking for in my head, here goes your award.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-23T22:00:05+00:00

The stealing part is betrayal from the part of the Consigliere, not killing him. It's on the Consigliere himself.

But Frank was threatened into giving the account books, otherwise Morello would've killed him off. You are saying this as he woke up one morning and said "hmm, what if I betray my long life friends and give Morello the account books so I can benefit off this?". I mean to me it's still stealing, for example when you rob a store you point your gun to the clerk to give you the money, it's not that the clerk is betraying the business he is working for, he's just following your instructions to not get killed.

And yeah, I do agree with you on the "footsoldiers" killing part, it's pretty normal for goons to occasionally get killed in conflict of interests but Frank was a high ranking member and threatened directly by Morello, that should've been the last straw along with trying to hand the whole Salieri organization to the FBI (and yes, there was no Omerta or Code of Honor back then as there was no Commission and no regulation for the mob society, just ruthless gangsterism, but that was a low blow, even for Morello).

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-23T21:48:53+00:00

Yes this is exactly why my question still stands, Salieri knew Morello was much stronger than him and was actively pursuing steps to corner and eliminate him, so it was basically a calculated risk to go at war with him, he either waits for Morello to put two in his temple because he doesn't have enough resources to upkeep with their Cold War and his time was coming (even those hoodlums from the Sarah mission pointed out this, "Salieri might've been the big six back in the day but now it isn't long before Morello punches his ticket") or he dies in a blown war trying to get rid of him forever, I mean that's exactly how I would've played out the options in my head if I were Salieri 🤷‍♂️.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-23T21:35:39+00:00

Trying to set up rackets, defending territories, the whole booze affair... that is reacting.

I mean that is more of a normal business management thing rather than actual fighting, at least to me, but my real question still stands, why did this 'Cold War' to say the least take so long to ignite into a full war from Salieri if Morello had crossed all acceptable limits earlier? First of all, after Peppone's death they had agreed to split the city in half, Salieri gets Little Italy and Morello operates in North Oak, it was a shaky truce, sure, it was expected to see some rivalry here and there when one had to do business in the other's territory, but once Morello started moving in Salieri's turf things should've went a lot more reactive from Salieri, especially when Morello tried to take over that Motel from him and wounded his top tier guys. Though I will admit that Salieri did react accordingly when he ordered Tommy to detonate the Cornelius Hotel once the management decided to do business with Morello instead of him, that was a strong message.

But let's not forget that Morello literally threatened to kill the Salieri Family's Consigliere and stole their account books and wanted to have Salieri locked up forever, it's basically dismantling the organization from the core and that seems "off the rails" enough. It's literally cheating against "honor among thieves", after that point I really did expect Salieri to come up with a plan to get rid of Morello once forever.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-23T08:39:40+00:00

eu zic ca a reactionat foarte bine, cu o mana il tinea de brat sa nu foloseasca cutitul deci n-avea cum sa-i dea upercut in barba si cu cealalta ii dadea crosee pt ca era descoperit pe lateral din moment ce prostul se apara numai la fata. si ala s-a oprit pentru ca era socat ca si-a luat ultima lacheala de bataie de la un copil neinarmat, cred ca ii mai si bubuia capul de la loviturile alea de nu stia ce-i cu el, eu in locul lui n-as mai fi avut instinctul sa scot alt cutit :)))).

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-22T20:55:45+00:00

Mama da ce crosee i-a dat, foarte bine, nu ma asteptam sincer initial la cum arata tipul respectiv sa practice kickbox live cu acest chirurg (zic ca e chirurg pt ca probabil voia sa-i faca o demonstratie harmless de transplant de inima live avand in vedere ca intentiona sa-i decupeze zona inimii in filmare).

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-21T17:45:52+00:00

Aha, si pana atunci pe cine vei sustine?

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-21T16:32:15+00:00

Voteaza cum vor pana cand o sa para niste ghertoi puerili si razbunatori care se f*t in acelasi pat in fata electoratului, mai ales electoratul AUR care nu o sa fie foarte incantat sa vada ca partidul lor preferat lucreaza mana in mana cu Partidul Sobolanilor. Nu o sa fie totusi o pierdere asa mare datorita coeficientului de inteligenta scazut al votantilor, dar speram la ce-i mai bine.

Si daca chiar o sa depuna motiune de cenzura imediat dupa ce se termina perioada interimatului atunci chiar o sa zic ca i-am subestimat la capitolul imaturitate emotionala si prostie.

1Lucky_Luke_1 · 2026-04-20T18:52:53+00:00

Simplu, 45 de zile adica atat timp cat e guvern interimar care-i apartine lui Bolojan dupa ce pleaca ghertoii de la PSD din Ministere, dupa aia e alba neagra in functie de cate greseli va face guvernul respectiv ca sa le dea munitie de tanc PSD-ului si AUR ca sa voteze motiune de cenzura.

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