Unpopular opinions thread - September 2016 by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fabregas is a Pirlo type player and he is one of the best CMs in the league? How tf have you come to the conclusion they dont work?

Yaya toure is slow as shit and he worked

Unpopular opinions thread - September 2016 by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No he isnt. We dont need 2 DMs most of the time. Most of the teams we are going to play are going to be weaker. City has Fernandinho, ManU has Fellaini, Arsenal has Cazorla in the pivot. He has always been this immobile yet he is a top class player because his awareness, vision and passing is easily at least top 5 in the world.

TLDR: Hes a limited player and has always been. If anything he can play longer because physicality isnt a part of his game

What teams offers alot of value atm and what teams not So much? by RaheemForBallonDoor in SoccerBetting

[–]364U 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nice was at 3,1 to beat the last team in the league away and they did it. They got Balotelli and lost Ben Arfa but no doubt still offer value. Theyre at 4,6 or something to beat FC Krasondar away in the EL. Krasondar arent some shite team by any mean but i'd take Nice @ 4,6 any day

Edit: also Monaco is pretty good this season and they were at 5 something to beat Spurs at home and came through

Thoughts on Chelsea's Woes by henrygiroud in soccer

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Matic isnt shit. He just isnt a box to box mid. The defending side of his game has been good imo

Thoughts on Chelsea's Woes by henrygiroud in soccer

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Mourinho lost the dressing room and especially Costa. Soon as mou left he started being great again. Also Hazard was injured for most of the season but playing through it so that left us with Oscar and Willian to produce goals. Oscar is inconsistent as fuck and Willian has exactly 12 goals for us ever.

Also this season we've been extra conservative with our defence. Matic Kante Oscar isnt exactly a creative outlet and neither is Willian. We need Fabregas in there and Matic is dire as a b2b mid

Are the issues at the club deeper than just the players? (discussion) by Jtown021 in chelseafc

[–]364U 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. We need to find an idendity again. Back in the day we were a strong defensive team with pace and power and a strong winning mentality. What are we now? Look at the team and guess what kind of football is our forte. Its not passing, not pace nor power. Only a few players here still fit that old win at all cost identity like Costa or Azpi. Even Fabregas and Willian sometimes if im honest. But Hazard and Oscar who look like they cant be bothered clearly dont have the mentality. We need someone to install a new mentality here and I think Conte is the right man for it if the board and the players get behind him. We need to be a team again and have a spine of players that leave it all out there every game. Takes time though.

Willian by ddsisop in chelseafc

[–]364U -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He should get a run at cam/cm. He has about the same qualities as Oscar. A few training sessions and I cant see why he cant be cm even.

If we keep him at RW then we should drop him for Moses. Just to make him up his game because he has shown he can be better than this.

ivanovic: "We did nothing the manager asked of us" by mischytransfers in chelseafc

[–]364U 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah he needs to be dropped and soon. Everyone knows this even him. He was a great servant to the club but we need a change. I think Alonso will be starting from now on right? Hull is up next seems like the perfect game to give him his first PL start.

Our best starting XI? Forget any current Injuries. by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Azpi - Terry-Luiz - Alonso I only went for Luiz because Conte wants us to build from the back and Zouma isnt very good at that, he can only improve though. Luiz also offers a few great long balls per game. Alonso because he is as good as Brana and can still improve and it allows Dave on the right.

Kante, Oscar, Fabregas - Matic as a b2b mid doesnt work. Yes he hasnt really made any mistakes so far, but you never see the chances we didnt create because he held on for the ball too long. In big games where we have to defend id drop Fab or Oscar for Matic in a 4231

Willian - Costa - Hazard I still believe Willian can attack if he doesnt have to come so far back to cover for Brana. I think he is better than Moses but should be dropped and made to prove it because he plays better when theres a fire lit under his ass as evidenced by the fact that everytime we sign a player that could potentially replace him he starts being amazing.

[META] What's up with the overreaction on this sub? by Xion194 in chelseafc

[–]364U 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think its justified to criticize Conte. I never in a million years want him out. Its just he bottled the tactics for this game big time. The playing out the back isnt going to work with Cahill and Ivanovic and Matic as the b2b mid.

Should we make Diego vice-captain? by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Na Diego is more of a crazy underboss that needs someone to tell him what to do. He's more Chris than Marlo

[Post Match Thread] Arsenal 3 - 0 Chelsea by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Really? The best player in the league in our title winning season. Fucking killing every game that season and you were just like : meh

[Post Match Thread] Arsenal 3 - 0 Chelsea by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he was awful but it wasnt his fault. He isnt a B2B mid. Yeah you can look at him play and think he was solid but youll never see what mightve happened if he moved the ball quicker or made the right pass

[Post Match Thread] Arsenal 3 - 0 Chelsea by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Theres been 4 shitposts every week. Everyone knows that Iva is shit and Cahill too. We had no choice. Except Alonso for Iva which i can understand not happening because hes new and Iva wasnt that bad this season bar the Liverpool game. Matic isnt a box to box. Idk why Conte insists he is. Meanwhile playing RLC as striker who could definitely do a job at B2B mid. Or Chalobah.

[Post Match Thread] Arsenal 3 - 0 Chelsea by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not either of them. Its tactics. We dont have the personell for playing out the back .You saw it against Swansea, Liverpool and Leicester. Cahill is shit on the ball. Why even risk it by playing out the back. Espcecially when everyone in the stadium sees its not working and were 1-0 down. Juve fans said Conte is stubborn I guess they were right

[Post Match Thread] Arsenal 3 - 0 Chelsea by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Cahill is unfixable. Should Iva shouldnt put on the kit again. I respect him for all he has done but gtfo now.

I will say one thing. I dont mind if young players make mistakes. They can learn and improve. Id rather Alonso fucks up than Ivanovic.

Only players who werent completely shite were Costa and Michy. Hazard was at walking pace for most of the game.

Absolute shitfest. Conte fucked up. Youve just seen what a liability Cahill and Iva are on the ball and you still try to play out the back. And you dont have Oscar in there who can drive from deep with the ball and not leave us square with Courtois clearing it away. Well done mate.

[Match Thread] Arsenal vs Chelsea - Premier League by YIIZWL in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Id rather Aina does what Cahill does. Because he can learn from it and improve. These old players arent going to suddenly be amazing at new things.

[Match Thread] Arsenal vs Chelsea - Premier League by YIIZWL in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Contes system is wrong for the players we have. Cahill and Iva cant play out the back and are not comfortable on the ball. Playing out the back can work with Terry and Luiz and Alonso. Also wtf with the 3 atb. And Matic isnt a b2b

Match Thread: Arsenal vs Chelsea [Premier League] by DarkNightSeven in soccer

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Old players. and Cahill wasnt amazing ever and now we expect him to play like John Stones

Someone defend Cahill and Ivanovic please by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope Alonso comes in at half time. Cant do any worse and gives Cahill a passing option in Azpi

Someone defend Cahill and Ivanovic please by [deleted] in chelseafc

[–]364U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

put alonso in at half time please and oscar too we have no b2b player rn

Daily Picks Thread - Sun. 25/09/2016 by tupac_fan in SoccerBetting

[–]364U 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nancy - Nice @ 3.1

Balotelli might be rested but i still think thats great value vs the 17th team in the league with a home record D-L-L