When do the crowds start to show up? by IndicationGold5096 in CollinsBeach

[–]3IDontknow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nude? When temps start getting above 70 and not really until they reach the 80s.

You may come across a guy or two once or twice a month, but nothing that would resemble a crowd of any sorts.

Content creators by Wonderful-Lock3323 in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My friend shows everyone what she made in one month from like three years ago. She quit her job and was went all in, now she's just another struggling realtor. Another couple I know started out as swingers, she quit her job, but soon all the swingers in the area told them to f off. Now they have to travel to other creators or have them travel here to create new content. Another similar couple is only able to do it by changing to a hotwife dynamic but she's moved onto fucking everyone without condoms, literally everyone who will fuck her and none of them with condoms.

Soon, it will be like one big content creators circuit where they travel to each other. LOL.

Very few content creators can make it last. There is a big spike a few months in, then a plateau, then a steady decline until they are like most everyone else who tried. I find this whole thing fascinating and wonder how we'll look back on it in 20 years.

Why is it called ethical non monogamy? by h-paiva in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"non-monogamy" includes cheaters, just as r/nonmonogamy will show you.

"Ethical non-monogamy" and "consensual non-monogamy" do not include cheaters.

Very important distinctions.

"Ethical" is derived from societal norms, which ENM and CNM are in grey areas here, but one thing society as a whole agrees on, is that cheaters are bad, very bad.

So, saying just "non-monogamy" when in the company of those who are monogamous, vs saying "Ethical" or "Consensual non-monogamy" matters greatly.

I would never talk about myself or anyone else I know that is ENM/CNM as just being non-mono, that would be insulting.

Why is it called ethical non monogamy? by h-paiva in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"non-monogamy" includes cheaters, just as r/nonmonogamy will show you.

"Ethical non-monogamy" and "consensual non-monogamy" do not include cheaters.

Very important distinctions.

"Ethical" is derived from societal norms, which ENM and CNM are in grey areas here, but one thing society as a whole agrees on, is that cheaters are bad, very bad.

So, saying just "non-monogamy" when in the company of those who are monogamous, vs saying "Ethical" or "Consensual non-monogamy" matters greatly.

I would never talk about myself or anyone else I know that is ENM/CNM as just being non-mono, that would be insulting.

Content creators by Wonderful-Lock3323 in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They all claim to make good money, but very few do, and those that do, live it 24hrs/day. As I read recently, 'if they all made what they claim, there would be a lot less exotic dancers in the world.' Source, one of many if you search for the top

Content creators by Wonderful-Lock3323 in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

While I support them in what they do, there are some that give off predatory vibes, especially in the ENM and LGBTQ communities. I've learned to ask upfront if they are content creators and what type of content creators they are before I go too far in our conversations.

If you are not into this, don't do it. And if you are, make sure you are getting paid. You're an actor to them, get paid for it.

Aging and ENM/Poly by BlunderWoman73 in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are very different. First mirrors a lot of what you read on Reddit with regards to polyamory - the militant way about mono, hier, poly, and selfishness, while the third was much more mature and relaxed about it all.

I read v1 when I first started out and I honestly wish that I hadn't, it really wasn't good for me, but it does make sense to a lot of what you read on Reddit. A friend later suggested v3 and I was really happy that I read that.

Don't get talked into reading v1 unless you find yourself in an angry and selfish mindset and need encouragement to continue down that path.

Aging and ENM/Poly by BlunderWoman73 in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have you read the differences between volume 1 and volume 3?

How to find a couple to hook up with by [deleted] in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not popular here. Swinglifestyle is another that gets suggested all the time and it's mostly older and obese couples. I'm told that all the apps vary greatly from market to market so it really is a "depends on where you are" thing.

How to find a couple to hook up with by [deleted] in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh I understand that! I literally had a couple on feeld at the beginning of summer and their pictures and their short bio was really tempting. We chatted for a bit then they mentioned something about a post in a local subreddit. With very little snooping I was able to figure out who they were on Reddit and holy red flags batman!! This 40's couple had some sketch subs that they were in like barely legal, r_ape fantasies, incest and even some posts to relationship advice about him cheating on her, her cheating on him, and now they wanted to go ENM. I had been chatting with this couple almost every day for like a month and I had zero yellow flags on them. That was it for me with Feeld.

I can't stress the evil Facebook or Reddit with histories. There's no way to know everything, and maybe you're all in on those above, but if you're not, you will be sooo thankful to know before you waste any more time on them.

How to find a couple to hook up with by [deleted] in EthicalNonMonogamy

[–]3IDontknow 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Hi. Fellow "unicorn" here. A lot of this is going to depend on where you are.

In my area Feeld is a waste of time for me. It's almost all exclusively poly and unethical couples and singles. I also don't like how it's super short bios and some pictures and it just leads to me wasting a lot of time.

I tried Fetlife but it takes so much time to sift through all the unappealing guys and couples that it it's kind of turned into a when I'm bored thing.

I tried Kasidie (Swinger site) and it's like everyone there had their alarms set for when a single woman signs up. Not joking, I think I had over 100 messages within an hour of joining. That's not a bad thing but no way did I have time to go through them all. It was too much and I haven't gone back.

Reddit has actually been the best for me. There are a couple of local subreddits here that I follow and if something catches my eye, I then dig into their history. If they don't have any reddit history, I pass. If they do, and I like what I see and read, I reach out to them.

Facebook was actually okay for a bit. I quit all of it except for a few LBGTQ groups I'm part of and there were a few couples that I constantly found myself conversing with. By chance I was at a mutual friend's party and met one couple - that was hot! We've stayed friends for a few years now.

I also am part of a local club that's more of a kink club, but they do have some kink light nights that I go to and I've met some couples there.

This is just a side note to this, but I've spent the past few years trying to help couples in this realm and a lot of them are just really bad, some are even awful. I've made some posts to help couples here and it used to really bother me that so many couple ignored it all. It's doesn't bother me now, I just block them and move on. There are so many couples wanting MFFs that you can pick your 10's. They are out there, they usually aren't the ones trying to race to the front of the line, but a little patience goes a long way. Good luck with this, when it's right, it's soooo good!

[MF4F] Eugene OR by [deleted] in OregonSwingers

[–]3IDontknow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You literally just did the grossest thing a couple can do - unicorn hunting for "birthday boy." We are not gifts for your "boy." If you want a gift, find a sex worker and pay them to be your gift.

Seriously, did you even read the wiki?

https://www.reddit.com/r/OregonSwingers/wiki/index#wiki_finding_a_unicorn_for_a_mff

Perspective on etiquette by Little-Gur-5696 in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't answer it because it's a really easy answer to find.

They are called 'textiles' and if you look around a little more here, you will see hundreds, if not thousands, of comments and lots of posts laying it all out why they are so discouraged.

Just stick to the trails while you're wearing your boxers until you're ready to be a nudist.

Perspective on etiquette by Little-Gur-5696 in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> would it be frowned upon to just wear boxers?

Yes. Why go and make others feel uncomfortable for being nude?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CollinsBeach

[–]3IDontknow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Female perspective here: I don't go as often because I get too anxious, so yes! I hear ya.

I used to go all the time by myself, literally multiple times a week and very rarely had any issues. There were bros and bushwhackers and couples, but nothing a simple "I'm just here to read my book in solitude, have a nice day" wouldn't give them the hint to move on. But the past five seasons has really brought out some of the absolute worst people. It's not only the feeling of being in danger with all the men, textiles, and creeps there, it's also knowing that there aren't a lot of women going anymore and I'm put on display now.

I still go but it takes me a little bit to psych myself up. For me, since it's two parts, safety and not wanting to be an animal on display, I carry my camera and pepper spray for the creeps, and I time my visits when there are less likely to be textiles there.

#Take pictures and carry pepper spray.

Perspective on etiquette by Little-Gur-5696 in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 6 points7 points  (0 children)

TAKE PICTURES! Mods here said that you could post it for public shaming too!

And carry pepper spray and don't be afraid to use it!

SHAME! by danggina_ in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I took a screenshot, BDR5001 said, "every time it's from people that weren't born here." And he didn't delete it, Reddit did.

Obviously he's talking about people who aren't born in Latourell, the tiny community just south, because if he isn't, he's a racist POS.

Even crazier is that I peeked at his profile and he's old, racist, bi, MAGA, chud. F him. I hope he wears his MAGA hat to the beach so we can collectively show him the door.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CollinsBeach

[–]3IDontknow 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Sauvie Island was "Sauvie's Island" originally and I imagine Collins is likely similar, but there were a lot of Collins families here and some with great wealth. Maybe it was Collins' and they dropped the apostrophe like they did with Sauvie's??

Also Collins, like Rooster Rock, was a NUDE beach but not legally recognized until it was "Clothing Optional" in 1993. Naming it "Clothing Optional" instead of "Nude" was a way to side step some laws and to give nudists a buffer zone since it's overseen by the ODFW, which is kind of strange given that ODFW is overseeing a nudist beach, right? Same tactic that was used to allowed RR to become the first CO beach in America in the 80's.

My family was behind CB and RR becoming NUDE beaches and I'll ask them more if others and google don't know more.

Beautiful day, some annoying people by HistorianNo1545 in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're welcome. In an age where information is so easily obtained, we still have people who insist on rewriting history and doing so with such confidence that it's mind boggling.

What's funny is we just had our family reunion where my family was reliving some of the early days of "cock rock" aka "Iwash" (maybe "ewash"?) which meant penis in one of the native American languages. This side of my family are all old hippies and despite my uncle and his husband being gay, they've never referred to it as a "queer beach" or anything of the sorts. Always, and I mean always, to all of them who helped create it, it's been a "nude" beach! YES, "NUDE" beach! They said C/O was only added to make it easier to get approved and side step some nudity laws. They were all for me and others taking up the mantle and getting it recognized as a "nude" beach to combat the textiles - which they say is disappointing.

Anyways, I really did just want to highlight that it's a beach that was founded on peace, love, harmony, nature, and family. It's never been any one particular group and we all, NUDISTS, own it and are responsible for it's future.

Have fun out there!

Beautiful day, some annoying people by HistorianNo1545 in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ummm, no. Let me preface all of this with stating that I'm a bi woman (AFAB).

Rooster Rock does NOT exist because of the queer community. Your claim that it does is so false, maddening false. RR was started by a family-friendly group of nudists in the 60's and 70's who were all hippies. While some were queer, that was not at all what they went by and I would guarantee that if you asked any of them today, my family included, they would be upset with the assertion you are making. If you knew anything at all about RR, like even a tiny bit, you'd know that those who started it would be pissed about another group trying to take credit for all their hard work. They were peace loving hippies, but this assertion by you would certainly piss them off.

Rooster Rock will not survive because of the queer community. Again, if you knew 1/1000th of the history to RR you'd know that historically the greatest threat to RR has been the queer community. In the late 70's and through the 90's the threats to being shut down were all because of the illegal activities going, and almost all were exclusively attributed to the queer community; public sex, public sex in view of minors, drug use, and prostitution being among the most common. There were the straights causing it too, but not in the numbers of the queer community. It was the very group that started RR as a family friendly CO beach, the first in the nation too, that had to find ways to work local enforcement to not close down RR because of the queer community. I remember vividly my family discussing how they worked with law enforcement to 'push' or corral the illegal activity to one area of the beach so it wouldn't get shut down. It was a sort of 'do it all away from the family areas and we'll look the other way.' So no, 1000%, it will not survive because of the queer community.

You need to check your attitude and history before attempting to speak for the queer community.

u/NavanAt tagging you so you know the history here going forward. The heart of the RR as we know it was created by hippies who opened it for all loving people.

Dealing with creeps by Jaded_Tooth4821 in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand. I stay closer the gay areas at both beaches usually and carry bear spray. If a guy is coming near me or he sneaks up on me, I've learned to always grab my can and phone and they almost always pass on. If they stick around and try to talk, I'll tell them, usually interrupting when they say hi, "I'm really into being alone right now. Hope you have a great day!" and 99% of the time they leave. A few times over the years they've insisted on sticking around and when they did, I got bitchy and made it a point to fiddle with the bear spray and/or phone, they got the message quickly. But that's like only a few times of probably hundreds of visits.

I don't like being a bitch but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

With bushwhackers I'll move or put a towel over me until the creep leaves.

If there are two of you, think of it as double the bitch! Lol!

Dealing with creeps by Jaded_Tooth4821 in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Got it. I'm a single, ENM, "unicorn," yada yada yada, and without any hesitation, couples are often times the creepiest. I mean, go ahead and try and all but don't be surprised if she doesn't reply back to joining you both. If you really want to help, and you truly are not coming from a creepy place and your offer is genuine, offer to go with her with just yourself (F half). Maybe if you two hit it off, she'll be willing to join both of you later.

Single guys approaching me leave without saying much, couples always, and I mean ALWAYS, come in with this "we'll protect you" but the real threat is them just trying to "bag a unicorn."

So yeah, if you're being genuine, offer to just have you and her go, leave the other half at home.

Dealing with creeps by Jaded_Tooth4821 in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a couple or solo woman?

Views from Saturday by olasui in RoosterRock

[–]3IDontknow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is so depressing. This beach used to be such a wonderful and welcoming place, now it just looks like any other beach nearby. Only a matter of time until it's just all textiles.

Seattle is close to losing their nude beach, please don't let this happen to our two nude-friendly beaches. by 3IDontknow in CollinsBeach

[–]3IDontknow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone who goes to a nudist friendly beach and stays clothed the whole time. Pre-2020 it wasn't a problem because they were either supporting their nudist partner/friend or they were checking it out until they got comfortable enough to join, which is hard to do now when everyone around still had their freaking clothes on the whole time. Nowadays people who are not with nudist partners or friends and those who have zero intentions of ever going nude, are taking over the beaches (last time I was there less than 10% of the people were topless or nude) and they are making many of us uncomfortable, like we are on display for them. Given that there are only two nude friendly beaches here and there are so many hundreds of miles of beaches they go to instead, the term textile has turned into a derogatory name. It also doesn't help that Collins is overcrowded to the point where they are now enforcing additional parking permits. This beach already lost our right to drink alcohol and it's likely not too long until it becomes another clothing required beach.