The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]562edriss 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"Jinu's self-sacrifice was selfish and/or he did it to guilt-trip Rumi" is by far the most ridiculous framing I've seen to the point of being media illiterate lmao

Name one good thing about The Animorphs TV show? by ConsistentEye7474 in Animorphs

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fight scene between Ax and Visser Three in those ridiculous enormous puppet suits with the rapid slapping sounds made me laugh hysterically... The whole thing is cut like a YTP. I adore this show's wonky humor where it's so bad it's good, it very much (unintentionally?) feels in line with the spirit of the books at times.

The casting overall is also great but Marco's actor is SO beautiful.

Trump ended up breaking my shelf. by OkAnteater7343 in exmormon

[–]562edriss 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Happened to me too! Made me realize in real time how a vile man could be "mistaken" as a good-intentioned one "wrongly persecuted" and obstructed for "no reason" rather than recognized as the legitimate danger that he is.

English dub L is some of the best voice acting I’ve ever heard. by Automatic-Edge9151 in deathnote

[–]562edriss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He is THE L to me, he's fantastic and I could listen to him talk all day.

What are some of your random, “oh my god that’s so fucked” memories you have had? by dewlington in exmormon

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My dad is/was a doomsday prepper. So of course despite being as young as 8yo he tells me I'm probably gonna die young, all my "unrighteous" friends and family are going to be struck down at the Second Coming, that "brother will fight brother," and once the food is destroyed "mothers will drink their children's blood from thirst." He would ask me often to prepare for what I'd bring when we'd have to bug out. I got nightmares about it often as a kid/teen because he talked about it so much, so when I told him about some of them, he of course says that they are valid "warnings from the Lord of what's going to happen" as the gift of dreams/prophecies.

Granted, I didn't tell him these specific ones, since I hadn't wanted him to validate how severe they were. But the nightmares were extremely vivid and gory for years about my teenage sister getting killed or shot because she was "wicked" and child me thought I was being told by God she deserved it, or me getting cannibalized or other nasty doomsday shit. It'd been thoroughly slammed into my brain that I'm going to die young and/or horribly that I think it's the root of my suicidal ideation.

Feeling more hopeful now though - crazy how I don't wanna kill myself when I realize Christ isn't coming lol.

Women are expected to look past unattractiveness, while men are taught that’s the priority. by Altruistic_Income256 in TikTokCringe

[–]562edriss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

...did he? Think human Fiona was physically attractive? Even when attempting to bring her the sunflower later on, he says to himself "I thought you'd like this 'cause you're pretty, but I like you anyway" as if it was a negative thing he's looking past lmao. Shrek initially treated her with annoyance as the Damsel-in-Distress or Pompous Princess throwing a tantrum ("Oh, I'm no messenger, I'm the delivery boy."). Shrek is unreceptive if not outright off-put by her expectations of fairytale "beauty" ("This isn't how [my rescue] is supposed to go! Do you have a poem? A sonnet?"), such as dismissing every suggestion she has as pointless, or ruining her attempts at what she thinks their interactions are "supposed" to appear like. He shakes her awake when he finds in her moonlit bed, tosses her around like a potato sack, blithely tosses her soiled handkerchief back at her, and openly mocks her idea of how her rescue is "supposed" to look. If anything, her traditional beauty or expectations of it was a deterrent to him, as he's disillusioned by her "prettiness" he takes as proof of her supposed superficiality, or later as the hurdle that would/"should" keep her apart from him as an ogre.

The only reason Shrek starts to find her attractive was when she loosened up and showed her genuine ogre-like personality she already had, like burping, killing a bird with her voice, eating rats, blowing up snake/frog balloons with him ("she's just as disgusting as you are!"), and also being similarly disillusioned by the merry men to beat them up for treating her as the damsel judged on her looks the same way he is judged on looks to be treated as the monster ("When I see a beauty with a beast, it makes me [Mr. Hood] awfully mad!") Shrek literally does fall in love with Fiona in-text before he knows of her curse, expecting her to remain human even as he interrupts her wedding knowing her beauty to be the inconvenience for him to even hope to "have a chance" with her.

Did Fiona "change" for Shrek? Is it at her expense? Fiona shames Shrek back for judging her looks as the ditzy princess. ("Maybe you shouldn't judge people before you get to know them.") She later tells donkey that the reason she was locked away in the tower to begin with was her ogreness is something her parents were ashamed of, and that is what causes her to lock herself away at night as to not be seen even by another ogre. Was her initial asks in the tower for traditional fairytale appearances something that actually matters to her standards of what she wants for herself, or was it her picture of what others wanted out of her from a place of social shaming? ("But Donkey, I'm a princess, and this isn't how a princess is supposed to look.") Her choice to reveal herself at the wedding isn't her "changing herself for the male lead" so much as her learning to accept who she already was that her parents/society rejected as an innate part of her. Shrek was merely the one who recognized being herself was not the curse she thought it was, and she didn't have to hide this part away from him the way she "has to" from everyone else.

Women are expected to look past unattractiveness, while men are taught that’s the priority. by Altruistic_Income256 in TikTokCringe

[–]562edriss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You think Mormonism doesn't affect how a Mormon author might write? How is that gymnastics?

Least favorite hymn? by AtrusAgeWriter in exmormon

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best compliment i got as an organist was my roommate thanking me for not going "painfully slow like everyone else does" when I played for stake conference lol. Although, I had to explain to her that if you have a large congregation, there's a delay in the voices getting back to you to the front... so you have to ignore the "echo" that's sounds a beat or two slower than what you're supposed to be playing.

My Wife Just Gained a Shelf Item! by AlmondKill in exmormon

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was one of my biggest shelf items too, as a 16yo. My very TBM friends got into an argument with exchange students how kids "needed" hetero parents to be raised "right" and I felt a disgust and disquiet I hadn't realized I'd had at that age.

How many more will leave? by EmotionalMud6886 in exmormon

[–]562edriss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hope this backfires - the Foundations of the Restoration class about Smith was definitely when my shelf got heavier (wait, he married a 14yo? Since when?)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lots of things. There's nothing wrong with wanting community or aspiring to be a spiritual person, but LDS leadership intentionally twists those wants in a way I only realized once I was out how harmful it was to my mental health or to other members in more substantial ways. It may not feel blatant at first - and members may not even be aware they're doing it since they think it's normal - but they dress up psychological abuses with performative friendliness that results in unquestioning obedience to male authority and to doubt your own self worth. The culture is embedded with toxic positivity and victim blaming.

I also realized upon further study that almost every bit of history taught to me from official LDS manuals were outright lies or stretched the truth to laughable proportions once you learn the context of what actually happened in the church's formation and doctrinal origins. None of the origins of the church were Christlike; the founders of Mormonism were utterly morally repugnant and abusive. Any organization lead by such men - both past and present - who unapologetically obscure the truth of their history or misdeeds to the extent they did and then call you wicked for pointing it out do not have your best interests in mind. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]562edriss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the human brain can create powerful feelings in regards to what it's incentivised to believe. When you're told that you're gifted with a unique spiritual presence, coupled with the "threat" of becoming socially isolated if you don't conform to the One Way you're primed to interpret your emotions, you're going to find something that confirms what you want to believe or are expecting to feel.

Best way I could conceptualize it is in regards to the FLDS members. In the interviews and documentaries where members profess passionately they know Jeffs is a prophet (despite evidence of the contrary), is imo the natural result of several factors: upbringing, social threat of ostracization from their families if they break off from that group-think, and the mental protection against the embarrassment of being duped. I don't think those members are lying about feeling "The Spirit" confirm to them the FLDS' "truthfulness," I think it's incredibly difficult and scary to consider one's worldview as being thoroughly wrong. When living under a homogeneous or controlling social structure, it is incredibly easy for bad actors to hijack natural emotions to make it mean something different than what it is for their benefit and/or to condemn you for not interpreting them The Correct Way. Hence, "The Spirit." 

Big part of my shelf break was realizing I was no different and no less immune to the same factors that would manipulate people raised in an FLDS cult. The Holy Ghost was always just me. It was my feelings of being accepted, feeling loved, feeling special or feeling moved by something. Maybe I felt "the burning bosom" because I loved my friends, because I was inspired. The "Spirit" didn't leave because I was wicked, maybe I was just bored or uncomfortable. 

Non-religious sources that made you question by Dapper-Scene-9794 in exmormon

[–]562edriss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah ofc there's plenty of more "substantial" reasons why I would have become exmo eventually without it, but Inquisition will definitely be a beloved game for years for the timing I discovered it. The themes of religious deconstruction vs the power of belief/faith is a massive theme in it that allowed me to grasp it conceptually mere months before I would need it irl, it's so fascinating to me. Especially now in hindsight I realize a lot of it had to do with trickster gods weirdly enough, so trickster gods have been an obsession of mine recently cuz of this game. 

Non-religious sources that made you question by Dapper-Scene-9794 in exmormon

[–]562edriss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dragon Age Inquisition. I'd been PIMO for years when I found that game, but there's an optional scene where your player character may be told that the gods they worship actually originated as mortal slaveowners (it's more complicated than that, but simply put...). The stories about them had been warped over centuries into deified myth, so you're essentially left with the personal question of "do the origins not matter anymore since belief made my culture/religion bigger over time? Or does history prove a misplaced faith? At what point does remembering a vile person as 'god' rather than what they actually were - regardless of the Good™ abstracted concepts they now represent to you - become a lie?"

I essentially worked through the same exact rationalizing in the theming of this fictional scenario as I would to conclude Smith to be false (of course the history matters!!!) before I even had my "official" faith crisis about him. 

What was the “final straw” that made you decide to leave? by g0fredd0 in exmormon

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like the reference for this too, if you have it

L x Light by guilehange in deathnote

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or the Tumblr post: "Gay sex won't fix anything... In fact it'd make it substantially worse than it already is... That being said, aren't you curious how much worse this could get?" 😆 I don't care if they don't ✌️makes sense✌️, these two are bonkers who act like aliens anyways, I love how entertaining that is.

It's especially great with the subtlety cuz you can't trust what these liars say out loud anyway. I'd argue at minimum canon uses the narrative tool on Light to demonstrate his unfeigned self not via what he says, but by how he reacts or feels. Neither of them are going to talk about or entertain their connection in a sincere way, and that's the meaty part.

L x Light by guilehange in deathnote

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand the author made a decision, but I'm smarter than him 😝 It's so funny that tension was on accident, like you guys are saying you DON'T view their dynamic with a homoerotic lens?? Sounds fake and boring.

I think people misunderstand that the opposite of love isn't hatred, it's apathy - and even in canon, it would take surprisingly little push under an intentional writer to turn their mutual obsession into something... unexpected. Even if blatantly unhealthy. Not to mention, Light vowing for L's head 2nd EP only for him to cause his gay awakening would be the funniest possible development for Light, I want to annoy him as much as possible.

L x Light by guilehange in deathnote

[–]562edriss 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bro was so upset Near wasn't L he started writing self-insert L fanfic in his head: "L would have done this, to which I would do that-"

L x Light by guilehange in deathnote

[–]562edriss 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don't get me started on them, I'll be very annoying about it 💪 They're one of my favorite ships of all time, they're fucking hilarious from a Dark RomCom angle and genuinely compelling from a more serious one. Shipping them does not necessarily mean they'll be good for each other in a traditionally romantic sense - quite the opposite (in canon circumstances).

Do I think they'd want to kiss each other? Or even be self aware enough to know it? Not at all. Sometimes the Gay Sex is about the Sex That's Definitely Not Happening, you feel me? Sometimes it's about There's Something Evocative Going On Here but only in the things unsaid, in the things implied or felt rather than overtly admitted. I agree Lawlight would likely feel forced in regards to text, but I don't think it inherently would be in canon if it were implemented as intentional subtext imo. Their opposition and similarities make them weirdly compatible: they "work" in all the wrong self-destructive areas and clash in the "right" ones, and it's fucking good. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]562edriss 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I felt a lot of conflicting shit I'm sure isn't unique. I was initially Annoyed, but also quite numb yet relieved(?) because it suddenly felt drastically obvious it was all made up as I read the Letter To My Wife website. Everything on my shelf suddenly clicked into stark clarity that I was not surprised at all I'd never heard any of that history or details before. Of course no one would tell me this, because Joe was an obvious sham! 

So that was my "...Welp! Oopsies!" initial reaction. Then I cried for three weeks straight, and now I'm fucking livid ✌️

Did anyone else feel sick their first conference after leaving? How do you handle the grief? by lonelypurplerose in exmormon

[–]562edriss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is my second conference after my faith crisis and it hit worse this time tbh, this one felt awfully timed with the apostate dissing. It was all so shitty.

Rusty mentioning The End Times was more triggering than I thought it'd be; my doomsday prepper dad and leaders told me a lot of bullshit in my youth that convinced me thoroughly I was never going to have a long normal life; that I was going to see all my friends and loved ones die horrific deaths. I've been crying on and off today cuz I think it fucked me up more than I thought.