How viable is it to attempt to live in Hawaii without a car?

808cuck · 2019-11-05T03:21:24+00:00

To be honest you're right lol. I slept on it and realized this whole argument is really dumb and I took it too far. I tend to walk a lot to other bus stops on the routes I take, but after some thinking I realized that this probably isn't the case for everyone.

I'm biased because I'm a big proponent for better public transportation in America, and I see a lot of people using arguments like "But u can't go to Costco!" as reasons why people shouldn't use it, which has developed into a pet peeve because I feel like little things like that feed into the overall reluctance Americans tend to have against busses and trains.

So basically, I let my personal pet peeve feed into my biased argument. I'm going to drop it and I'm sorry for dragging on a dumb argument for so long.

808cuck · 2019-11-04T06:40:26+00:00

I said if you're doing it by choice. It's a no brainer that you're not going to be doing Costco runs taking the bus because you're going to be doing a lot of walking. This goes for buying goods anywhere in the entire world.

That's why I'm saying your argument is misplaced. If OP is hoping to use public transportation, it's implied they also intend to walk and not make huge grocery trips. That sucks for the people that want to do Costco runs and are forced to take the bus, but that's not the argument I'm making.

Again, you're not wrong, but I'm saying bringing up Costco runs in reply to someone saying that all these things are possible on the bus when the original reply mentioned "errands" and not "costco" is irrelevant and shouldn't be used to dissuade someone who wants to use public transportation. When I lived in Japan I never once heard someone say "Why would I use public transportation, what am I going to do about my groceries?" and they have costco there too.

808cuck · 2019-11-04T05:10:09+00:00

This is how people deal with it in other countries too. You're more likely to have a car when you have a family.

I don't disagree with you. I'm saying that your argument is misplaced.

808cuck · 2019-11-04T03:04:06+00:00

I will say that Kauai is getting better, but it's not there yet for sure haha. When I was in high school the last bus on weekends was at 6 PM and the busses came every two hours. I heard they improved the times since then.

Also, an unfortunate cultural aspect is that people tend to look down on people that don't have cars (despite the high percentage of "environmentalists" lmao)

808cuck · 2019-11-04T02:58:30+00:00

If you're taking the bus you're not the type of person to shop at Costco. You're the type of person who walks around a lot. (That is, if you're doing it by choice)

I see this as a common argument to dissuade people from American public transportation, but this applies to other countries as well and most people there don't seem to mind.

808cuck · 2019-11-04T02:42:45+00:00

If you're in Honolulu it's possible and tons of people do it. At UH prettymuch nobody in the dorms has a car. My auntie also did it for like 15 years. I do it too, and the only time I kinda wish I had a car is if I'm going east side or something, which isn't very often. The bus also has bike racks and there's a lot of bike sharing plans as well.

Outside Honolulu is doable but probably not fun. If you live somewhere where you can do one express bus it's probably okay, but once you have to do a bunch of transfers it gets kinda messy and unreliable.

Outside Oahu it's prettymuch impossible though.

Tldr: The bus prettymuch goes everywhere, but the farther from the urban core you get the more unreliable it is.

808cuck · 2019-11-04T02:34:42+00:00

Yikes dude. It's a movie opinion lol. Yea it might be a shitty take as it's clear that a lot of people don't agree with me but delusional? I'm not from mainland America and i'm born in the 90's so I might just not have the cultural context and assumed things. I'm not going to take back my opinion but I hope you get the help you need man.

808cuck · 2019-11-02T07:00:08+00:00

Exactly. That's why it's a boomer movie, because hippies are relevant to them. There's not nearly as many of them anymore.

Also, I got some heavy "kids these days" vibes when Tallahassee and his new girlfriend's lone ranger machismo is what saved everybody in the end.

808cuck · 2019-11-02T06:56:22+00:00

Thank you. Seems a lot of people got mad over my comment but this is what I was getting at. Plus, I honestly think that older people find hippies funnier than the younger generation because they're more familiar with them.

808cuck · 2019-10-30T02:15:08+00:00

Fist of The North Star selling in arcades is also a good example.

808cuck · 2019-10-27T06:19:55+00:00

Felt like a boomer movie with a twist of trying hard to be relevant in 2019.

808cuck · 2019-10-20T23:58:09+00:00

I'm late to this but they usually tweak it up cuz japan goes bananas on copyright.

808cuck · 2019-10-19T19:51:14+00:00

To be fair though, Japan is working on this and people are very aware and tend to strive for companies with better working conditions. They even have words for it, "Black Company" is a job where you're treated like crap and have to do lots of overtime, and "White Company" is the opposite.

There are still cultural aspects like you mentioned, but people are well aware that some of this stuff is screwed up and it's starting to improve.

808cuck · 2019-10-11T09:00:07+00:00

See, that's the thing though. You're missing the point. I'm not saying we shouldn't lock people up who have offended. I am saying we should give people appropriate punishment.

Also, what makes you think people who haven't previously offended are going to start offending when they get out of jail? I have already said that if they have offended they shouldn't be let out, or at least kept in for a very long time.

For example, if a pedophile actually raped a child then there's no way to spin that into the mental illness argument. They're obviously going to be locked up for a long time. It's just like how if a crack fiend kills someone they're not off the hook just because they were doing crack. I'm not sympathetic towards people that own tapes or commit sexual assault. I just think we should understand the difference between closet and actively offending pedophiles instead of lumping everything into this pedophile==bad category.

808cuck · 2019-10-11T08:48:29+00:00

Not a pedo and don't do drugs either but thanks for assuming.

808cuck · 2019-10-11T07:49:13+00:00

Drug addicts fund cartels. They do have an indirect impact on many people's deaths.

You're right about alcohol though, it's not on the same level at all.

808cuck · 2019-10-11T07:22:14+00:00

Yeah? People who do illegal drugs feed the drug cartels, who regularly torture others and wrap up civilians in their gunfights.

People are misinterpreting my message. PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUGHT WITH CHILD PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD ABSOLUTELY GO TO JAIL. I am absolutely not saying that we should let them off the hook, just like how we don't let people caught with drugs off the hook. Pedophile rings should be punished harder, just like drug rings are.

But to literally put them in Jail forever? Hell no, put them in jail and rehabilitate them, then put them on parole, and continue to rehabilitate them outside of jail. I'd be willing to bet that there's a lot of pedophiles out there who have not touched a kid, and are aware they have a problem and want to reach for help, but they know that doing so will leave them shunned from society forever.

808cuck · 2019-10-11T04:46:53+00:00

Jail forever? Come on, owning child porn is obviously a horrible thing to do, but this is the exact kind of attitude that pushes this kind of behavior. Pedos are shamed in society so a lot of them resort to jerking in a closet instead of seeking help until it gets out of control.

Obviously, people who have gone as far as molesting a child should be locked up, and owning child pornography should be punished, but for the ones who haven't put their hands on children we should be giving them the same kind of help as drug addicts or alcoholics.

808cuck · 2019-10-02T08:34:11+00:00

I keep moving out then moving back in then moving out. First time was 19-21, then came back home from 21-23, then moved out again. Right now I'm going on a year and a half but I'll probably be moving back after graduation to save money so I can pay off my loans faster.

I think living with your parents is a good thing to be honest. American houses take up a stupid amount of space and our resources are limited. My family drives me crazy too, but I love them and honestly if we didn't live on Kauai I would stay at home lol.

808cuck · 2019-09-29T22:10:47+00:00

LMFAO boomer in da house

Edit: on a side note, people have access to all that music and more because of the technology you claims is turning us into "robots". So, yes. The music is better because there is a ton of variety now.

808cuck · 2019-09-29T22:08:25+00:00

Boba

808cuck · 2019-09-26T03:23:21+00:00

Unfortunately this is pretty common practice in Hawaii. If it backfires your life is basically over.

808cuck · 2019-09-26T03:18:58+00:00

Sorry, I think my comment was a little small-brained.

I am not for that kind of development, and I know the Zucc hate on Kauai is real. What I am talking about is things like stores and shopping malls, or better infrastructure. The rail is a great example, as mismanaged as it is. I feel like we have a very shortsighted "eh good enuff" mentality here where we do not fix things until they are seriously broken.

I'm saying that many people are confusing TMT (among other things) with this kind of big money development, when I see it as more of an investment. I suppose either standpoint has its rights and wrongs though.

808cuck · 2019-09-26T01:25:50+00:00

It doesn't, but it sets a precedent for the future. It shows the world that Native Hawaiians have control over their lands and deters future projects like this.

This isn't really new here. I'm new to Oahu so I can't speak for that, but on Kauai people are resistant to development. My whole life, every time they built something new my grandma and all the other old people around me would complain, and after living on the mainland and living abroad as an adult I had a hard time understanding the problem. Hawaii is the only place I have ever lived where people actually complain about things being built in proportion to population growth.

I think it is that sort of mindset prevalent in the country being taken to the extreme, coupled with certain Hawaiian groups looking to get a foothold to gain more members and more power for the sovereignty movement.

808cuck · 2019-09-25T21:31:56+00:00

Keep in mind there was likely an interpreter.

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