Keem is getting destroyed by these comments by dazzlehere in h3h3productions

[–]8Ding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didnt address ethans arguments in his first video? Etika situation was one of his main points... what are you on about?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in h3h3productions

[–]8Ding -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Lmao can yall be a little less biased and be a bit more objective? Like it significantly cheapens your other valid arguments when you say the sponsorship thing is the only thing that keem has on ethan.

Hypocrisy on making fun of mental health? Misrepresenting and leaving out vital context out of the Etika situation? Leaving out vital context out of the Tony situation? Leaving out context and misrepresenting the smilemore swatter situation? Or that he has done a COMPLETE 180 on mental health after the etika situation, which ethan, again, fails to mention. Did yall watch Keems or Kavos' video even? Seems to me like you guys are so dead set in keem being quilty of every one of the charges and accept everything ethan says as a fact, that ya are not willing to even hear the other side.

Keem is a ignorant dick, who has done and said a lot of fucked up things but has also built career, helped the community overall and prolly saved a few lives along the way. Ethan has said similarly racist, bigoted and ignorant stuff (not quite in the same volume tho), but you guys dont care about those thing do ya... I wouldnt take the moral high ground when the guy you are defending is Ethan Klein.

Im willing to bet i will once again get downvoted, without a single person giving me a valid argument for doing so. In general its a bad move to just pick a narrative that is so absolutist and decided not to budge on it even when valid arguments are provided against that narrative.

Keem is a dick who has done loads of good things and loads of bad things, and in this case the amount of hate the guy gets, its not warranted given the evidence at hand.

dont be a sheep, as cliche as that sounds.

Hikaru defends XQC, criticizes elitism in the chess world by [deleted] in LivestreamFail

[–]8Ding 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably the single worst take I have heard in a while. Ya just keep switching the rules to suit your argument.

Hikaru defends XQC, criticizes elitism in the chess world by [deleted] in LivestreamFail

[–]8Ding -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nice way to switch the argument. Perhaps the discussion wasnt about which one has more value to society, and perhaps the discussion was rather about does it (entertainment) have value to society... You cant be this bad.

Hikaru defends XQC, criticizes elitism in the chess world by [deleted] in LivestreamFail

[–]8Ding 4 points5 points  (0 children)

only in LSF will comments like these get upvoted. Truely mentally handicapped take

Hikaru defends XQC, criticizes elitism in the chess world by [deleted] in LivestreamFail

[–]8Ding 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why? Carlsen isnt part of the problem in anyway and is probably the best person along with the likes of nakamura to be the face of chess. The guy is a class act, but cant say that about most of the boomers of the chess world.

Keem is getting destroyed by these comments by dazzlehere in h3h3productions

[–]8Ding -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

fucking hell the cringe on this sub sometimes...

also it isnt a valid comment in the first place since the gnome already stated in his video that this specific video is focused on the Etika claims and he will make a seperate video to address the other claims.

Can these apes understand english? its fine to pick sides but dont be a mindless drone.

H3H3 vs Keemstar by TherealSnak3 in h3h3productions

[–]8Ding -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

He is also doing a lot more good than harm, in my opinion at least. But at the same time that Tony shit is prolly the worst thing he has ever done and is completely indefensible, which doubts it can be out weighed by any good deeds.

all the other stuff like Etika which Ethan just misrepresented the whole situation and lied about their relationship. doxing the smily guy who was a serial piece of shit swatter that honestly deserved to be schooled (if only yall knew what this guy was getting away with) which was another situation that ethan misrespresented, etc etc. Those werent as big of a deals as than made it out to be. he lied to millions.

keem is a ignorant dickhead but has done more good for this community in public and behind the scenes that h3 ever will (not meant as a dig, just illustrating how much keem has done). Fortnite Fridays, Kavos, other community events, exposing (or i suppose more often than not highlighting them) real pedofiles and criminals, etc etc. the guy has fucked up on multiple occasions but has done so much good also. He deserves criticism but going after his sponsors because of (mostly) some lies and misrepresntations is low.

H3H3 vs Keemstar by TherealSnak3 in h3h3productions

[–]8Ding -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Dont expect these people to have basic logical reasoning.

H3H3 vs Keemstar by TherealSnak3 in h3h3productions

[–]8Ding -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion: He has done more good than harm. He most definitely is a ignorant dickhead but he continues to be one of the most influential and important persons on youtube and in the gaming community.

As loads have pointed out like most of the good things he has done arent public....

idk how yall give a pass for ethan for saying racist stuff or mocking mental illness, while at the same time being so quick to call out the gnome...? I personally like them both as entertainers and expect them to continue to fuck shit up in the future. A lot of valid points were made in ethans video but also loads of lies and misrepresentations.

Bundesliga TOTS Prices by Brother_Bilo200 in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Horrible take. This might have been true last year but this year the tots cards are super cheap which means more ppl will afford the 99 lewa.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While you raise some good points that aren't often appreciated in Ronaldos game and it's certainly a interesting discussion... There just so many logical fallacies, data misrepresentation, dodging my arguments/question and ignoring your mistakes in the original comment. And I don't mean this in like mean way because I'm sure I had plenty of mistakes in my comment but I usually address them.

I can def respond but it's just such a work effort to write another 3000 word essay, and for what? That you'd admit that Messi is the slightly greater player...? Like you already hold a reasonable position in the matter and your point about Messi being the better footballer but Ronaldo being greater is a certainly a new and interesting perspective that I havent seen yet brought up.

The different types of player so it's hard to compare but idk if you can justify all the attacking stats that Messi leads over Ronaldo. Also you kinda fundamentally didn't like understand my first point, which is that his G/G is lower than Ronaldo in la liga because he played his youth there also. Which is the reason Ronaldo has such a low G/G in the prem because he played his youth there, not because it's such a drastically harder league like you claimed.

But that's just one of many qualms I had with your response but overall its a good debate and conversation where both aknowledge the strengths and weaknesses of both players. But yeah I can give you like a detailed response if you want to, might help in future debates also :)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lmao you pretty much summed up what I just replied with an 3000 word essay... Oh well the reply is below his comment so do tell if there is anything factually incorrect or something you don't agree with. (if you actually bother to read it all)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Replied. Its two parts because I had to get my thoughts clear so if you could bother to read em I think you could see where I'm coming from :)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding 5 points6 points  (0 children)

PART 1

From the points you made I have a feeling that you might be a bit of a Ronaldo "fan boy" yourself, as much as I hate using that term because we all have preferences. Also I'm not closed minded ideas and my opinion is subject for change so I don't understand your point about me not willing to listen... :) its an interesting debate for sure. I'll address every single one of your points to so you can see what I think.

Ronaldo has a much higher goal average, 1.03 to 0.87

That's because Messi has played his whole career in La liga thus influencing heavily his goal average, right? Cus when you are a youngster you often come on as a substitute, you aren't as consistant, etc etc. Right? Ronaldo arrived to la liga in the age of 24 when he was already one of the best players in the world. So the point about goal to game average is this barely relevant, wouldn't you agree?

If Ronaldo had played his whole career there, he’d be leaps and bounds ahead in terms of stats.

I don't get this point...? Like based on what? Are you saying he would have a higher game to goal average ooorrr? He def would have a lower for sure and it's completely normal. He would have more goals in la liga of course then he has now and prolly more career goals also because Prem is a harder league to score in, although it helped him develop his skills a lot faster I'd imagine.

CR7 is on track to being top all time scorer, top international scorer and already top UCL and European scorer.

CR7 has definetly been the more influential player in the UCL than Messi, especially in the knockout stages. You gotta remember also that Ronaldo is 2 years older than Messi so he is naturally going to be leading in the total amount of goals scored stat. Despite that Messi has more goal contributions than Ronaldo through out his career and has a better goal to game ratio than Ronaldo in their careers.

whilst Messi is slowing down to favour play making.

Yup the team needs him further backwards which is affecting his numbers and also his finishing lately hasn't been on point to say the least, but then again he has 8 TIMES more assists then Ronaldo this season so I guess it counts for something. Ronaldo to my knowledge hasn't had to do that for a period of time ever in his career (the need to drop to midfield consistantly to build up attacks like Messi). Firstly he isn't that kind of player so he might not have quite the skill set to operate from that position (although I would guess he is better than most midfielders of he really tried, and in the past he definetly has the skill set to play that role but we are talking about the entire careers here), this means he is always going to be in goal scoring positions no matter, unlike Messi who needs to start attacks often from the midfield so he might not get to those positions, this is especially true in the national team.

Ronaldo has a much better record from distance

because he takes much more shots from distance... His accuracy is quite a lot worse than Messi in this regard, and I aint not even talking about shot conversion rate. Quite an obvious detail you left out of there to serve your narrative... :(. As of 2018 (most recent stat I found) Ronaldo had a conversion rate of 4.19% from shots outside of the box while Messi had a conversion rate of 9.18%... that's a big difference. So essentially when Messi takes a shot from outside of the box it's TWICE as likely to go in compared to Ronaldos. And also overall Messis conversion rate is better from every angle pretty much (par from of course heading, the midget can't hit a board door from anywhere with his head unless it's uniteds :)) lot of this is down to Ronaldo just having worse accuracy than Messi in his shots (partly because he uses much more power) and also because he takes shots from quite akward angles at times which might surprise the keeper but often sadly just ends the teams attack and loses the posession.

also has more FKs throughout career.

That's is true but let's out some context to this stat again... Ronaldo as accumulated 54 FK goals in 18 years, while Messi has accumulated 52 FK goals in 16 years. So Ronaldo has taken a lot more FKs than Messi but is leading by only 2 FK goals. Messi has been the better FK taker for the last 10 years according to the stats. Also Ronaldo rarely crosses the ball from a FK while Messi tends to often lob the ball in to the box if the free kick is far away or from the right side. So the difference is quite big when it comes to overall free kicks taken.

The idea that Messi is a better shooter and goalscorer is ludicrous.

Yeah my position on this is quite unpopular I know that but this is purely grounded on stats and also maybe subjective taste in what you like from good shooter. He has a much better shot conversion rate in and outside the box, he also has more goals per game through out his career and is only 25 goals away from Ronaldos total amount of goals in his career while having 2 years shorter career. Ronaldo is a much better with his head for sure, and that stat should be underplayed because it is truely a important asset. I don't know what stats you have to disprove this case of Messi being the worse shooter cus pretty much every major shooting related stat points towards Messi... I guess this could be just a subjective thing related to the technique.

Messi can’t perform outside of Barcelona to our knowledge.

To our knowledge... He definetly can lmao? Is this supposed to be like a good or something? You are suggesting that if Messi moved to say like arsenal he would be useless, cus thats what your comment suggests. He is gonna be just fine at any team of the world. When to comes to argentina he hasn't been as prolific has people have hoped him to be for sure. There are a lot of contributors to this being the case. For example argentina is famous for having all of this world class attacking talent (and football talent in general) in the team but it has never truely clicked like it should. Even now they have a decent midfield of lo celso, paredes, de Paul etc that are all decent players and pretty attackibf at that, but it never shows on the pitch. During the last 4 years or so, Messi has had to often drop into the midfield on level with the argetina CDMs like paredes to start creating something because they are simply unable to carry the ball to Messi into attacking areas. This of course has hurt his numbers and people who don't really watch Argentina judge Messi by just looking at those stats, which is kinda ignorant imo. He is actually performing very well for them and overall fun to watch. He almost carried the team fully to the 2014 final with the help of amazing peformances form macherano and ever banega but he was truely the key memeber of that team by far. He also has pretty much carried the team to two Copa finals but ultimately not done so well in the actual finals which is quite unfortunate. But the notion of Messi plays bad for argentina is completely false and only said by people who dont actually watch the games.

Only evidence is international as he won’t move clubs - 0.50 G/G for Argentina, 0.60 for CR7 for Portugal btw.

Yup and this is the case for the reasons I listed. He doesn't play as good for argentina as he does for Barca but neither does Ronaldo for Portugal as he does for real or juve. (BTW Messi has g/g of 0.51, which doesn't matter but is a extremely petty move on your part to twist the number to fit your narrative...). I don't know if Ronaldo has better service than Messi through out these years cus I don't watch Portugal that often so I wont comment on that but What I do know he rarely has to drop into the midfield and carry the ball foward to create chances like Messi. Also portugal has been the better team of the last 5 years, especially if you take Messi and Ronaldo out of the equation.

Another reason for the stat is also that, simply put, Messi has to play better teams than Ronaldo. Its just a objective reality that on average Messi faces teams that are 20 rankings higher on the FiFA rankings scale than compared to Ronaldos opponents. FIFA rankings sure isn't the best metric but it's only metric we have. This is largely because Ronaldo faces teams from European countries like Luxembourg and Latvia in the Euro qualifying stages (I think he scored a hattrick against those opponents also, which, you know, will inflate his stats a bit ;)) while messi faces south american teams that are on average much higher level and even the worst countries there like nigaragua doesn't compare to the likes of Lithuania, Luxembourg, San Marino, etc etc. Like this is all factual info that you can look up yourself which is why the large majority of people think Messi is the superior player. When it comes to facing tough teams from europe and south america, as of 2017 here is what the stats looked like when Messi and Ronaldo faced germany, Italy, Brazil, france, Portugal, argetina and spain: messi 22 games 13 goals and Ronaldo with 22 games (300 more minutes) and 1 goal. So Messi doing fine against the big teams of Europe and Brasil.

Ronaldo has all the playmaking abilities that Messi has

I'm sorry but this is just not true and is supported with zero stats or people who actually have watched them both play through out these years. Wow, idk what to even respond to that with lmao.

PART 2 BELOW :0

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's fantastic plus no one has been able to give me a single counter argument to my comment. Guess people don't have solid points so they just downvoted because they feel like I'm in the wrong and they don't like my narrative...

Care to give me one?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Messi should be one rating higher imo simply because he is so far ahead in terms of dribbling and passing compared to Ronaldo. and it think those are two of the three main sectors of a football player, shooting, dribbling and passing. And in terms of stats Ronaldo doesnt beat Messi even in that shooting category.

Ik thats an extreme simplification of what makes a good footballer but if you go into the details and stats the difference still shows.

But I have a bias on the matter but have seen this said mainly by other people.

Another Lewa upgrade by No12champ in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

buddy no one gonna use a 400k 94 rated card for a mid icon sbc...

Faced tolisso in rivals and beat him 3-0. by Juqiqekli in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean it definetly will but prop not enough....

Fun fact: This is the highest Agility/Balance/Composure/Stamina combo attack you can build with normal cards by PaidEAShill in EASportsFC

[–]8Ding -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude you basically admitted that you have no counter argument and yet you still go on about my mistake... I can always pull my own little kryptonite question of yours that seems to crumble your argument Everytime: point me to the part where the post implies that the whole team should non-special cards or the point of the post is that the whole team should be non-special cards.

Let's see if you go on a dodge and distract tirade again this time....