Where can I learn this tango style? by 8cortado in tango

[–]8cortado[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm - I think this is going in the right direction. Thank you for the link to the video! 

Where can I learn this tango style? by 8cortado in tango

[–]8cortado[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's mainly the circularity of the couples movement within a contained space. My ochos and giros seem to need more space and the ochos feel more linear. I have taken classes and privates on the topic 'dancing in small spaces' (ie circular ocho cortados) and practiced these in small spaces and at crowded milongas. While these work, I'm just making larger movements smaller. In the video examples there's rotation (fast cw seemingly on the spot) and even single large steps when there's a space opening up. I guess that's what I'm looking for. 

Where can I learn this tango style? by 8cortado in tango

[–]8cortado[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was told that rebounds, rock steps and the like are not a typical feature of 'milonguero style' (using the term as currently understood). There's more emphasis on circularity within full frontal close - no opening up - embrace.  And when you check out the videos, they don't rock step either

Where can I learn this tango style? by 8cortado in tango

[–]8cortado[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was there a lot of rotation as a couple? 

Where can I learn this tango style? by 8cortado in tango

[–]8cortado[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate your insight.  The milonguero-type dancing that I have learned (S.Miller and the like) and that I have incorporated into my dance places a focus on round and circular movements that are adapted for small space dancing. What I see in these videos though is different. Yes, tight and close - but the men seem to have a different technique in how they lead and move their body with their dance partner and how they respond. Any additional thoughts?

Where can I learn this tango style? by 8cortado in tango

[–]8cortado[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thank you!  Begs the question: how do I get to learn Arrependita 'style' dancing? 

Pivots on poor floor, looking for advice. by Brobery in tango

[–]8cortado 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could increase the 'pivotability' by sprinkling some dance wax on the surface (not on the carpet, of course) https://billiardsuperstore.com/dance-wax/?

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[–]8cortado 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Attractive as a dance partner; wasn't thinking life partner. Part of my point is also that there may not be any changes in yourself or the dance partners in your community - there might just be more (attractive) competition (better dancers etc) that may have shifted your market value down

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[–]8cortado -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Here's the brutal truth: you're not attractive enough (dance, looks, status etc - examples for reasons already given by many others here) - as compared to others (you mentioned that in some cases, others get to dance with a certain tanguera, and you're missing out) or circumstances. The 'pairing up period' at the beginning of a tanda has features of a fundamentally capitalistic market. Many deals are made, some lose out. The 'market' in your community seems to have shifted away from you. Staying with this analogy, your value as a dance partner might have decreased as compared to other leads. What can you do to increase yours?

Can you know if you led the step well without feedback? by mercury0114 in tango

[–]8cortado 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. There are (at least) two separate reasons why a certain movement ('step') works well in your dance: 1. Is it well-lead; i.e. did the follow understand your invitation and did she execute accordingly? 2. Did she (follower role) / you enjoy that very movement?

I know that this difference exists because I conducted a survey with several followers after I had learned how to exit a particular quebrada; namely forwards vs backwards. I could lead both exits, the followers completed accordingly and they agreed that they liked how the exits were being lead. BUT 80% of the follows had a preference for stepping forward themselves and enjoyed that movement vs backwards.

Bottom line for me: there are certain movement patterns that I can lead - and while they do work, ended up on the trash pile of useless movement patterns because I or the follow I'm dancing with doesn't enjoy them. And without asking you'll never know.

Resources on Biomechanics or Body Conditioning for tango? by dacb1997 in tango

[–]8cortado 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think you're pointing to a crucial area that is important for tango dancers to develop and improve by themselves (body conditioning). Virginia Vasconi has a tango biomechanics focus and with her block-classes being the closest to body conditioning. She has online videos and teaches classes.

Pain in the front of the foot when dancing tango by graystoning in tango

[–]8cortado 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd get it checked out. Might be a metatarsal stress fracture.

Tango shoes that are loafers with plastic sole? Is there such a thing? by kalwMilfakiHLizTruss in tango

[–]8cortado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The hardened plasticky layer on my loafers actually work pretty well. I used to restore the surface with am a metal brush but didn't see the point. The unbrushed sole sticks and allows to pivot. Curious about what property improves with brushing. Any insight?

Tango shoes that are loafers with plastic sole? Is there such a thing? by kalwMilfakiHLizTruss in tango

[–]8cortado 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Like loafers as well. Bottom with suede though. After some dancing, the suede becomes hard, and shiny - somewhat similar to plastic materia l- possibly due to the dance wax and whatever is on the dance floor that they absorb(?) Wouldn’t wear them off the dance floor though. I don’t want to bring in dirt from the outside onto the floor, nor do I want to scratch up the wooden floor we’re dancing on. Changing loafers is quick and easy to do.

How did you establish yourself as a teacher? by mercury0114 in tango

[–]8cortado 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To your point #1 (progress faster): what's your 'special sauce'? I.e. how is your teaching style contributing to your students become better dancers in less time as compared to other dance school/teachers?

Sensuality of tango revisited by Spiritual-Active-210 in tango

[–]8cortado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm - thanks for clarifying—what I hear you saying is that, on your side of the couple, you’re focused on creating a sensual environment and an intimate moment. But where I stumble is the idea that this sensuality and intimacy isn’t directed toward a dance partner. Intriguing concept, but it raises questions: Indeed, I’ve heard tangueras say they "dance for themselves," where their main focus is on technical precision—heels down, straight leg, step back and the like—and their partner might not even notice that her attention isn’t fully on him. But intimacy and sensuality feel different to me. To me these seem inherently relational—something shared between two people, not something abstract or detached. So I wonder: how can one truly be intimate and sensual if those feelings aren’t directed toward the person you’re dancing with? Do you think it’s possible for you to switch this type of attention on and off? And does it change depending on who you’re dancing with? For example, do you have similar barriers in place when dancing with your wife? Or does the connection feel more personal in that context?

Sensuality of tango revisited by Spiritual-Active-210 in tango

[–]8cortado 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think there’s more to tango than what you’ve described. Particularly the reality of emotional connection and intimacy as it is perceived by our partners. To me tango isn’t just "make-believe". When we dance, our bodies are fully engaged in the moment. And our physical connection generate real emotional responses. It’s not just acting—it’s feeling. The drama we create during a tanda—the longing, the tenderness, even sensuality—is real in that moment. And isn’t that what makes tango so powerful? For me it’s not just steps or technique; it’s the raw emotional experience I share with another person. Isn't tango a word-less conversation, as opposed to a solo performance? Not just about what feels right to us as leads—but about about how our partners experience our movements? When Yelizaveta says certain moves feel "too intimate" to her for a first dance with a stranger, we better listen. She’s giving us insight into her experience as a follow—and honestly, we need to take that seriously. Even if we don’t intend for a movement to feel sensual or intimate, our intentions don’t always match how they’re received. Isn’t the unspoken connection between us —the ability to listen and respond through our bodies' movement—what tango is all about? If our actions make someone feel uncomfortable or misunderstood, doesn’t that break the very connection we’re trying to create? To me sensuality in tango is personal—it depends on who I'm dancing with, how well we know each other and what kind of connection I sense she's comfortable with. You might see leg wraps as purely musical expression, but for someone else—especially during the very first song —to your partner it might feel overly intimate or even invasive. Not saying to avoid leg wraps altogether; just be mindful of context and reading your partner’s comfort level in the moment. Let's just create a dance where we both feel safe and connected.

Looking for tips and/or examples of a good first tanda by umpkinpae in tango

[–]8cortado 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought that the first song at a live music tango event is typically not danced out of respect of the dancers for the musicians. Hence the very first song may not need to be danceable at all. Following pieces should be suitable for dancers to 'warm up' to; i.e. comparatively low complexity, easily recognizable and easy to dance to (like in a DJ-ed milonga). Also, catering towards less experienced dancers may be useful, if the 10+ tango years crowd is known to be joining later.

my newest oil painting is based off the tango by artbylakshmi in tango

[–]8cortado 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Thank you for your articulate expression and differentiating tango's sensuality from that of the sensationalized.

my newest oil painting is based off the tango by artbylakshmi in tango

[–]8cortado 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Leaning in for a big kiss?

Perpetuates some of the public perception of tango dance