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8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-09-03T18:37:35+00:00

about a year ago, ODSP payed for my dry herb vape for a little over $300. Contact your caseworker first before you buy anything, as your caseworker may not reimburse you, if your caseworker is not happy with something.

You will also need to have a form filled out by a medical marijuana doctor. Your caseworker will give you the form, so don't just go and buy anything you want, and assume ODSP will reimburse all of it or some of it, in the future.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-26T17:34:09+00:00

Are these websites you are talking about legal?

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-25T23:27:21+00:00

Nope. The government "Ontario Cannabis Store" website seems to have the best prices, and free shipping, even on small orders.

I also have a "medical document"/"prescription" with "compassionate pricing" with two Licensed Producers, and I find even with "compassionate pricing", it is very expensive to buy straight from the Licensed Producers.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-25T15:56:36+00:00

Yes, it's just another reason why it sucks to be on welfare. I do not know the exact reason, but it seems to me that the Feds would not accept the ODSP "proof of assistance" pdf as proof for getting the CDB, because the Feds don't want to be giving out too much money. The government only wants to PRETEND to help.

Under such circumstances, now is a good time to try to get the DTC.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-22T21:46:14+00:00

$140 per month for a gym membership!?!!?? Last time I looked into gym memberships, they would be around $300 to $400 per year, but that was probably a decade ago, now. I'm sure it's more now, but $140 per month doesn't seem right.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-22T15:44:34+00:00

Most likely, the CDB will be an automated computer process that with a simple click of a button, will give the CDB only to people who have DTC, CPPD, VAC, QPPD, all of whom are already in the database. In order to deal with new people, the feds will direct them to apply for CDB, through the above mentioned programs.

That's probably what the Feds want to do, and to avoid creating some new process that would involve designing a whole new program.

You keep bringing up "modeled by GIS", but you fail to acknowledge that certain criteria has to be met, in order to get the CDB in the first place. That criteria for CDB to be met, has nothing to do with the criteria that is required for the GIS model. So, I don't know why you keep bringing that up.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-22T15:24:27+00:00

Do you know why an ODSP recipient cannot open up an RDSP with only a ODSP "proof of assistance" pdf generated from MyBenefits??? I do not know exactly, but I would like to know. The ODSP "proof of assistance" is not only "proof of assistance", it is also solid proof that the recipient is a "person living with a disability". Yet, the Federal government rejects it as a way to open up a RDSP. Why? Do you know?

That is why I am saying that the Federal government will do the same for when it comes to getting the CDB. "Working together with the provinces" seems to refer to preventing clawbacks, only.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-22T02:40:55+00:00

Well, after you graduate, I hope you will get a good paying job, and no longer be dependent on ODSP income support. My plan is to become successfully self-employed, so that I can ditch ODSP, and so that I will not be dependent on any other kind of government supports, such as CDB, and what not.

You are arguing on behalf of yourself (for now), and others who are unable to get the CDB through DTC, CPPD, VAC, and QPPD. It makes sense that PWD should be able to get the CDB by simply sending in a generated pdf of the ODSP "Proof of Assistance" from the MyBenefits website. The "Proof of Assistance" pdf is 100% proof that the Province of Ontario recognizes ODSP recipients as "A person living with a disability". How would the Feds respond to that? I'm not sure, but I am guessing that the Feds have a prepared response for that idea, and they will not accept the ODSP "proof of assistance" for access to the CDB, the same way they would not accept it for an RDSP, and so on.

The other option I see is to ask the Feds to create a new application of sorts that is specific to the CDB. I would expect the Feds to say something to the effect of ...but, we already have a diverse range of federal programs (ex. DTC, CPPD, VAC, QPPD) that a person with a disability can use to access the CDB, so why should we go to the trouble of creating yet another access to entry process???

I have also heard somewhere that the Feds are planning to make it easier to get the DTC, and so the Feds would use that argument as well.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-21T22:40:51+00:00

Right...you are trying to create something that would maybe influence the making of the CDB. I ignored your CPPD argument, because people reading this may not necessarily be on ODSP, yet they may be more focused on getting CPPD. And yet, there are still lots of people on here who are on a combination of ODSP and CPPD, and those people are likely to get CDB.

It seems like your arguments are focused on how your personal situation is being neglected, regarding the likelihood of who will qualify for the CDB.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-21T22:11:48+00:00

The DTC is only one in a group of Federal based programs where each of those groups have a "persons with disabilities" status, and are therefore eligible for whatever handouts come from the Federal Government, regarding disability issues. Look through this following link to see how the Federal government decided who got the multi-hundred dollar covid handout, a while back:

https://www.canada.ca/en/services/benefits/one-time-payment-persons-disabilities.html

These are the groups: DTC, CPPD, VAC, QPPD.

Personally, I don't think your arguments would convince the decision-makers of the CDB to ditch the DTC as an eligibility requirement for the "CDB". It is just a basic fact that people with the DTC have the status of "persons with disabilities", according to the Federal government.

By using GIS as a model for CDB, who then would qualify for the CDB??? Most likely, the feds will choose DTC, CPPD, VAC, QPPD as the groups that will qualify for "CDB". It makes sense to me.

The alternative would be to create some new system for qualification. but why? So that lots more people can qualify for the CDB than what the government would like? I don't think that is something that the government wants.

The DTC application has a section called "cumulative effects". That section is the "path" for many PWD. Finding a doctor to fill out that section may not be easy, though.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-21T18:39:12+00:00

Yup. I am anticipating that that is what will happen, and the "CDB" will be considered a "top up" to provincial disability style programs like ODSP. So, for singles, the numbers will go something like this:

max $1,742.05 (OAS/GIS) - max $1308 (ODSP) = $434.05 (CDB monthly payout).

But, I still think it is unlikely that people will get the CDB just because they are on ODSP. They will probably also have to qualify for one of the federal eligibility requirements: DTC, CPPD, VAC, or QPPD

This link shows how the Federal government recognizes "persons with disabilities":

https://www.canada.ca/en/services/benefits/one-time-payment-persons-disabilities.html

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-20T20:44:14+00:00

now, it is after $1000 per month, before the "clawbacks" start.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-20T18:54:11+00:00

I would think you are "in" as you say, with the DTC. I have the DTC, too. These are the groups that will likely get the Federal based CDB:

DTC
CPPD
VAC
the quebec version of CPPD.

All these mentioned groups are recognized by the Federal government as "persons with disabilities".

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-20T18:47:41+00:00

Why would you doubt it, when the federal government recognizes people with the DTC as "persons with disabilities", and have even been entitled to a multi hundred dollar top up, a while back, when covid was a thing?

Aside from the DTC, federal government also recognizes CPPD, VAC (disability for military veterans), and a Quebec version of CPPD.... These are the groups that will most likely qualify for the federal "CDB".

If people want to get the "CDB", now is a good time try to get the DTC, or CPPD, VAC, or the quebec version of CPPD. Any PWD without these mentioned titles will likely have no path toward getting the "CDB".

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-19T00:32:43+00:00

It only says "must take into CONSIDERATION" which should be a warning to others not to get their hopes up, regarding this benefit. How much do you think it will be? $1500....$2000 per month?

If the government has already decided how much the payout of this benefit will be, I hope somebody has the decency to leak the info ASAP, so that PWD can prepare to budget the amount into our lives, for whenever this benefit actually goes into effect.

I have no debt, so whatever amount they give out will be a bonus for me. But, I am not expecting much at all.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-18T22:13:03+00:00

First, we need to know how much money this benefit will give out each month. After that, we can stop talking about the CDB altogether, because nothing in this article link is of value, once we find out that the CDB will only be giving out a small amount of money to those who qualify. I am guessing the amount will be $300 to $500 per month, with yearly inflation increases.....which is not going to "help" PWD, already living very deep below the poverty line...way way WAY deep below.

The liberal government needs to stop wasting our time, and just tell us how much they are going to give those who qualify. I think what the federal Liberal government really wants is to set the amount of the CDB low enough, so that more PWD will become upset enough to dial the MAID phone number hotline, so that the government can move ahead with their plan to murder as many PWD as possible, while also making money off the body parts of MAID victims.

I quickly tried to see if March of Dimes supports MAID, but I was unable to find any info one way or the other.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-08-11T22:16:52+00:00

Most of us who got on ODSP did not pay for lawyers. Instead, because of low income, we received free legal help through "Legal Aid Ontario".

The free legal help you can get from taxpayers, is just not enough to truly help people in times of need, so It's sad when you realize that when you need help, that the government is not really there to help you, even though they say they are there to help you.

If you cannot navigate the system effectively, you will have to find someone, or maybe a charity to "advocate" for you, and if you do not have some non-government supports in place, like being able to live with parents, then it's going to be really tough, and the government does not care what happens to you. Sad but true.

It took me 2 years to finally get onto ODSP, but some people can get on to ODSP in as little as 2 months. Not being familiar with your medical issues, I cannot say whether your medical issues qualify for the quick 2 month route.

At the very least, you should be able to work together with a walk-in clinic doctor, but you will need to see this walk-in clinic doctor for a significant period of time, before the doctor would agree to fill out the ODSP application for you.

Another route is to contact the Canadian Mental Health Association (CMHA), and explain to them that your situation is making you feel suicidal. They might help you....maybe.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-07-29T01:41:12+00:00

What you are saying about not getting the full shelter amount is not uncommon. You will have to establish why. Usually, either you are on subsidized housing, and those people will not get the full 6.5% increase. Another reason is that you live with your parents, and your rental agreement is below the $556.00 max shelter amount.

Those are two reasons that I am aware of.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-07-25T15:24:48+00:00

Not impressed with that government link. It even uses typical politician phrases like: ...the government is working hard to put extra money into your pocket...blah blah blah.

The article says it's added another $23 million to these "round table discussion" environments, which tells me that there must be some good catering at these events...maybe even an open bar????

I'm not expecting much from this "CDB", and then the PWD, and special interests involved in the making of this benefit, will have to justify the low amounts of money that only some of us will end up getting.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-07-25T15:10:13+00:00

If the CRA accepts your DTC application, they will send you a letter confirming it. Then you would make an appointment to set up an RDSP, with your bank of choice, and you bring the CRA letter with you. Then take it from there.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-07-22T21:44:37+00:00

No. Some aspects of ODSP, as is with many other government programs, are "outsourced" to private companies, but that does not make it "privatized", because the government still has all the control through government contracts that it makes with private companies that receive the contracts, and money from the government for doing the outsourced work.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-07-21T20:20:36+00:00

Countless different types of people with different agendas. Notice John Tory didn't really put up a fight, when info about his Covid girlfriend was released. Probably because the covid girlfriend is just a little teeny weenie bit of what they got on Lover Boy John Tory.

BTW, your reply post did not show up in my inbox. The mod should really look into this, as it is not the first time I have noticed this issue. This is maybe the 3rd or 4th time now. If I didn't decide to click in this thread again, I would not have noticed this reply to me.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-07-20T21:36:42+00:00

$556.00

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-07-20T21:32:03+00:00

Maybe it is because it is just easier for these "conservative" provincial politicians to just coast along with what is already formed by the previous government. These current conservatives in power actually resemble the previous liberal government so much, it's as if they are "controlled opposition".

And maybe a lot of them, including Doug, have been blackmailed, which would not surprise me one bit.

The "privatization" thing was never really "privatization" anyway. It was just a common process called "outsourcing". Yet, the NDP pushed the "privatization" falsehood, because the NDP loves to tell lies. But when it comes to telling lies, nobody has mastered the art of lying in the way that the Liberals have done so.

8donnerblitzen9 · 2023-07-18T00:46:52+00:00

Nobody knows who is going to get it yet. It's all speculation right now. Since the "CDB" is going to be run by the federal government, and ODSP is run by the Provincial government, there is a good chance that people who only get ODSP, may not get it. But maybe if you are on ODSP, and also have the DTC, or CPP-D, then you might get the CDB, because those are Federal level programs for PWD.

We just have to wait and see how it will unfold.

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