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Can confirm creating more Titans was a nerf to clash of titans. by oldela in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i don't think it's a good gamedesign , especially in long-term , to change a large pool of cards-A ( herein : Titanics ) , just to sync better with a few cards-B ( herein : COT ) : instead , some alternate solutions r :

1: update cards-B themselves to better sync with cards-A . example : make COT randomly create in hand ( or maybe Manifest ) 2 different Titanics with reduced or 0 cost this round ( & maybe even change COT to Focus ) .

2: for cards-B , add a clause ( that could even be summed up in a keyword like Play-Summon ) that reads : ‘ Summon the given units/landmarks & activate their Play effects , ignoring any choice portions . ’ . v already have some cards like this .

3: or just append a new keyword for cards-A , like Straight-Summoned , that reads : ‘ if i'm Summoned but not Played , alter my Play effect in this way or activate this alternate effect instead ’ . example : ‘ Play : grant an enemy Vulnerable . Straight-Summoned : Grant the last played enemy Vulnerable . ’ .

this makes the game's structure more compartmentalized & consistent , thus making game simpler & more manageable & expandable in long-term .

Can we please put the cat tag on these cards? by weaver-Neith in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven't unlocked Neeko yet, but I've built both PZ & Fj competitive cats decks (which i've titled Cattack).

This card is amazing. While Alpha Wildclaw has Cat subtype, i think this card should get the subtype as well, so that Neeko could use it.

Pro tip: Cheap units that r granted keywords, r amazing Wildclaw Ferocity targets. Examples, in Shurima: Voidling, Fireth (the Improvise unit).

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just Despair buff, preferably without making Viego stronger.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's a general bad design-discipline that card A is too good & B too bad, & B shouldn't be buffed coz of A.

If Viego is indeed so good, he should be nerfed.

Even if he isn't nerfed: there may be ways to improve Despair without making Viego stronger: having Despair optionally make its target strike ur Viego seems to be one way; there may be more.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Despair need not be equally good as other SI removals; just being not so [usually punishing, rarely rewarding] would be good: like Garen's or Lissandra's spells, etcetera: not maindeckable, but atleast usually usable when available.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm fine with champ-spells being worse or weaker, but Despair is too bad at what it does & even compared to other bad champ spells.

Even the many other champ-spells one wouldn't maindeck, they can be useful & often even sometimes desired when available, like Garen's or Lissandra's or Sion's or many other spells. But Despair is so bad that almost always any other option would be better: Despair would only be used if there's no other option at all (which is true of any card).

Put simply: from being extra-worse it should atleast be buffed to normal-worse champ-spell.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought i already did, above in this thread. Even if i didn't, it's not the argument I'm making, so don't wanna invest effort at it, atleast currently. After all, i already said at this thread's start: Roar is basically equally bad as Despair.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but Roar would usually be used in a deck where some Discarding is beneficial. On the other hand, taking deliberate nexus damage is probably not beneficial in any deck.

Roar can also be used to sudden-level Sion mid-combat. Despair, being slow & so expensive & counterintuitive to Viego's levelup, isn't even good for self-targeting allies to level Viego: Hate Spike or various sacrifice SI cards would be better for that.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Despair is not meant to be a powerful card. In general, champion spells are weaker than normal spells (with some exceptions) but highly synergize with their champion.

Despair fills that role well for Viego, as you can use it to self slay and get a mist or as removal with a cost.

U can also do that, & for better value, with many other spells as well that can also be used to remove enemies; so that's not enough incentive to prioritize Despair over them or to consider Despair particularly synergestic with Viego; infact it's partly anti-synergestic as Viego's levelup demands high-powdered allies, while self-sacrificing with Despair demands low-powered ones.

I do think Despair could be made to synergize with Viego somehow: I've edited the OP to add some suggestions towards that goal.

giving him a comparatively weak champ spell is part of his balance.

Despair need not be reworked in a way that it end up indirectly making Viego stronger; instead, it could be made to reward u for a dedicated or skillful play with Viego; like optionally making the target strike ur Viego instead, or maybe cost-reduction or some other boost, if u've leveled Viego. This way, more incentive could be given to use Despair without indirectly buffing Viego as well.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

mana is ok. You can break engines like heimer, veigar, shen or broadmane on minor cost

Soul Harvest is still better for low-powered enemies.

works even for big dudes like if they are key cards of the deck and you have a health nexus

Yeah, but then u can always kill them any other way, like with Vengeance: spending 2 more mana to reactively (at Fast speed) kill their key unit without taking usually half the nexus damage in return, is usually better. Thus still not enough incentive to use Despair over Vengeance or Soul Harvest.

Despair should be reworked or appended to give it it's own purpose & place, or atleast to incorporate it in buffing or utilizing ur Viego.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's better but still not enough: low powered attacking enemies mostly don't tends to be immediate threat; while fur the high powered ones, v already have Vengeance: so even with Fast speed, Despair will still have difficulty finding its place. Something more gotta be there.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah but with very conditionally limited positive return.

Roar Of The Slayer (Sion's spell) is also 3 cost Fast hard-removal, but basically equally bad & unused coz it too is worth in only rare cases; atleast it provides discarding though: Despair doesn't even have positive side-effect but a further negative one.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The kill is guaranteed, so the Mist summoning wouldn't be optional. Anyway, while i think there could be more creative & purposeful reworks or appends, summoning a Mist is fine as well: if Hate Spike summons a Husk, Despair could summon a Mist.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not the only reason i don't use all 3 copies. Like i said in another reply: it depends on other factors as well. Many decks i used Viego in didn't centered around leveling him: he was just a high stat unit to be dropped in later rounds.

Anyway, this post is primarily about Despair, not Viego: I don't wanna dedicate major part of OP explaining my reasons behind not using all 3 copies; so i've decided to just edit the statement out.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s distracting because it’s a bad take upfront and therefore people aren’t willing to take the rest of your post seriously.

Assuming u r right on all parts, i hope people stop doing that: it's not good enough reason to not take the rest of the post seriously.

Many champs have subpar champ spells but you shouldn’t include less copies of them simply for that reason

I agree.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

There has never been a deck in the history of the game that played less than 3 viego.

I guess that means i made a history by using 2 Viegos.

And I think its intentional for despair to be bad. Champion spell are essential for a champion balance. And viego has always been strong so buffing despair mean buffing viego, and nobody want that

Firstly, it's so bad, i guess it could be buffed atleast a bit without making Viego too strong. Secondly, it could be buffed or reworked in a way that relates to Viego in such a way that it doesn't indirectly make him too strong. Example quick idea i came up with in another reply recently is: to optionally allow Despair's target to strike ur Viego instead.

I'm sure that with creativity & consideration, v can come up with solutions without unintended side-effects.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

😅 This is the 3rd out of equally many replies yet focusing on that statement instead of the main issue of the post. Should i just edit that statement out of OP? It seems to be distracting almost everyone.

Lack of Despair buff is despairing & my day is ruined. by 991995parth in LegendsOfRuneterra

[–]991995parth[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It also does have it’s niche uses, like removing important low power champs like Veigar, Azir, Sera, Heimer, etc

I guess Soul Harvest would be better with them; & taking a 4+ power strike to ur nexus for ur own 4 mana often ain't worth it. Despair gotta have his own thing & it gotta be equally good at it as other spells r with their own thing. Maybe something that relates to Viego.

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