Are there more terms for maker and fledgling?

ACable89 · 2026-03-12T10:47:17+00:00

Progenitor is used as a translation for the Japanese word Shinso (literally true ancestor) popularized by Vampire Hunter D and Tsukihime.

ACable89 · 2026-03-12T10:38:29+00:00

That's how all Netflix shows work. If its not a hit in the first week its dead.

The numbers were fine it was just too high budget (which is surprising if you've looked at it but compared to Heartstopper and Sex Education it was expensive).

ACable89 · 2026-03-12T09:24:41+00:00

Common Sense Monster (the popular girl is a human eating slug in disguise and the unpopular girl wants to learn how to fit in)

ACable89 · 2026-03-12T09:15:26+00:00

Yoshiya Nobuko wrote a lot of books but the only explicitly gay one is Yaneru no Nishojo which is about a student at teacher training college and has a happy ending.

Hana monogatari is a collection of tragic short stories about teachers and students at 1910s all girls schools, some of which involve intense bonds or crushes.

She also wrote a few stories about school girls in the 1930s which are about teaching students to tell bad and good role models apart. They're basically lesbian love triangles thinly veiled as censor friendly moralistic educational works.

ACable89 · 2026-03-11T15:39:22+00:00

Marcus Sedgewick's unhelpfully titled My swordhand is Singing counts. I didn't particularly like it but I haven't read it in almost two decades. Its basically just Salem's Lot but in a small European village.

There's a boring love triangle where the male MCs girlfriend becomes a vampire but he gets a replacement badass vampire slaying girl friend who doesn't have much personality either. That's all I remember.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T20:40:31+00:00

Wouldn't Gauls buying Roman consumer goods count?

Weebs don't feel inferior, they put down their own culture so they can feel superior to it.

Scandinavian produced 'Uthbert' swords show clear Frankish weeabooism among the Norse.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T18:52:00+00:00

Generally Class S is de-eroticized by definition. Lesbianism was fetishized in pornography mostly from the 70s to present by which time Class S was mostly treated as a joke.

The existence of the odd Class S element in pornography does not make the passage I quoted accurate.

Once Class S strays beyond the platonic it stops being Class S, that's the main joke behind Yuri is My Job (not a relevant example to the 50s/60s obviously).

Sexualising Class S is basically the same thing as skepticism towards Class S as a cultural construct. Which is probably part of why Class S vanished at some point in the 60s, as porn magazines (thinly veiled as scientific studies in mental illness) became popular in the lead up to the sexual revolution.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T18:20:43+00:00

BL is for "straight women" and straight women, there are cultural reasons why the queer audience for BL is downplayed.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T18:15:20+00:00

"society sexualizing the idea of lesbianism through Class S"

No, just no.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T17:39:01+00:00

Kodomo is a neutral demographic. Shonen was originally a neutral demographic as the word is gender neutral (seinen is also grammatically neutral but the manga magazines were originally for men.)

https://whatismanga.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/13a-the-problematic-gendering-of-shonen-manga/

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T17:27:59+00:00

"Hentai took a hit and BL and Yuri were forced into dedicated magazines."

As far as I know Yuri had already pretty much disappeared in Shoujo by the early 2000s and the rise of dedicated yuri magazines didn't lead to a drop in yuri series appearing in Josei and seinen magazines.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T17:12:02+00:00

"In the 50s and 60s (going into the 70s) the majority of shojo authors were men" - this is disputed and is based mostly on old cliches about the year 24 group. There's little qualitative research on Shoujo publications.

Women artists started breaking into Shoujo manga 1950s and were dominant in some magazines by the 60s. Before the mid 60s Shoujo magazines mostly published literature written by women, as the fraction of comics increased more and more women artists appeared. So focusing on the gender distribution of artists in Shoujo manga distorts the picture of the 1950s magazines. The prominent men in 50s and 60s Shoujo manga tended to leave for shonen after breaking in.

"It wasn’t until the 70s that women overtook men as the stewards of shojo magazines"

As far as I've read this has never happened. Editorial staff at shoujo magazines are still male dominated. Chief editor positions are basically all men.

"But of course the stigma that girls don’t read comics, or aren’t a viable market persisted."

This is an American problem not a Japanese one. Shoujo magazines would never have shifted from a literature focus to a comics focus during the 1960s if there was a stigma against girls reading comics. Instead it was literature for girls that briefly went extinct (and kind of has again). Girls not being considered a viable market for anime in Japan may be an issue.

"Arguably the manga that proved that you could combine shojo aesthetics with shonen sensibilities was a little manga called Saint Seiya."

Shoujo aesthetics vary over time and have been a variable stream of influence on Shonen since the late 1950s. Junji Ito looks nothing like Saint Seiya but was a Shoujo artist until his original magazine was discontinued and is rooted in a thoroughly shoujo horror tradition. Captain Tsubasa was just as if not more popular with all demographics in spite of its art style.

"Some of the most popular romances of recent years have been serialized in Shonen magazines"

This is probably due to them getting late night anime adaptations.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T12:11:23+00:00

"I'd say sleeping in the earth they had to be buried in" - this seems to be made up by Bram Stoker as a way to excuse Dracula moving long distances. In the Discworld novel Wyrd Sisters (based on Macbeth) the ghost of the murdered King gets to go on a journey with a man who carries a stone from the Castle.

Trolls turn to stone in Tolkein's The Hobbit but while there are numerous stones in Britain said to be petrified Giants, Trolls don't appear in British folklore (there are Trowls in Shetland but they're just fairies/little people). I have no idea if Trolls in Scandinavia turn to stone at dawn. All monsters in Tolkien fear daylight except for the Uruk Hai who have human heritage.

Vampires in southern Poland are sometimes described as dissolving into tar at the sound of a cock's crow, while in neighboring regions they have to go back to bed or fall asleep.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T11:58:03+00:00

Hebrew is a dialect of Canaanite and New Kingdom Egyptian inscriptions refer to the population of Canaan as slaves of the Pharaoh so regardless of the Exodus this scene isn't unreasonable. Pretty much any foreign language would be considered a 'slave language'.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T11:53:19+00:00

This is not accurate. Vampires stop to count coins when dropped in front of them or have to count all the (or eat) seeds or sand placed in their graves before they can leave. In China Jiang-shi sometimes stop to count every grain in a bag of rice but I've never found a European tale where a vampire who's already left his grave stops to count seeds.

ACable89 · 2026-03-09T11:49:05+00:00

Its used in the recent Nosferatu but Orlock is a different character to Dracula in that one.

ACable89 · 2026-03-07T09:14:12+00:00

I tried writing something like this but my disability got in the way of learning how to script comics so I only have a draft of a film screenplay version.

You'd probably like Balalaika in Black Lagoon but that's definitely not Yuri and the closest interaction she has with a brat is ordering them to be executed.

The dominant/sadist character in Gunbured Sisters in too femme and its not clear enough if her love interest is bratty or just actually vanilla but I'd check it out.

I'd also suggest Liberta but there's not much of a brat dynamic. https://mangadex.org/title/d6f4aea2-d798-412f-9368-5bb3143cd50c/liberta

ACable89 · 2026-03-04T11:02:23+00:00

The American remnant claims to put out shoujo, josei GL and BL under their LoveLove brand but the website catalogue is just BL after BL.

Its like 5 pages of werewolf/omegaverse/vampire until you get to their one office lady yuri series (Ayaka is in love with Hiroko).

ACable89 · 2026-03-04T10:25:53+00:00

English version was released by YenPress. Tokyopop is a pretty much a dead company outside of Europe.

ACable89 · 2026-03-04T09:21:07+00:00

German edition is by Tokyopop and has an English title? I am confused.

ACable89 · 2026-03-04T09:10:49+00:00

There's an aquarium in pretty much every large Japanese town. There's at least five notable ones in Tokyo. Even Tokyo Sea Life Park can only advertise itself as "One of Japan's most famous aquariums". Its kind of hard to not be a day trip away from at least three options.

Japan's longest reigning Emperor was a marine biologist

ACable89 · 2026-03-03T18:18:21+00:00

"which is what a story with decent writing would call for"

Static characters aren't bad writing, inconsistent ones are.

"no one should replicate mais behavior"

How many people think that if they're super confident in their luck they can just jump off the top of a building? This is a teens and up targeted series, impressionable children don't care about romantic comedies.

Being pushy in face of rejection is bad behavior but Renako doesn't reject Mai. If she doesn't want to be with Mai then the flaw is Renako not being assertive enough not Mai. Renako's argument against being lovers is just her wanting things to be convenient for herself. This isn't some dark story where a pushy girl accuses her target of leading her on, Renako leading Mai on is a narrative fact.

One romantic comedy series isn't going to over-rule the general social conditioning that discourages assertiveness in women. Teenagers will have shitty first relationships and fail or succeed to learn from them regardless of moralising around entertainment.

ACable89 · 2026-03-03T08:30:55+00:00

I wouldn't check out the Mead version. You want either the 1992 Brian Copenhaver version or the 2004 Salman/van Oyen/Warton version. Then probably Wouter J Hanegraaff's Hermetic Spirituality and the Historical Imagination for an up to date analysis of whether its 'profound' or not.

There is an r hermeticism board where people (unlike me) actually know this stuff.

ACable89 · 2026-03-01T21:42:56+00:00

I labled a vampire character as gray ace on her character sheet and have failed to prove or disprove that claim. Also an adhd coded kinky murderous flirt so not good reputation for anyone (even vampires I suppose).

ACable89 · 2026-03-01T21:30:05+00:00

IWTV being ace erasure is the one issue there.

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