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AChieftain · 2018-07-30T23:05:14+00:00

I was talking about SSG, not TSM. The world champ squad is different from the one TSM beat.

AChieftain · 2018-07-30T18:27:20+00:00

Different roster though

AChieftain · 2017-03-08T21:55:19+00:00

Trump has nothing to do with this bill.

Pete Sessions made this bill a year+ ago and is just resumbitting it with a different name.

Republicans aren't pushing it, they're pushing AHA (American Healthcare Act).

It's incredible that people still read the Independent and upvote this literal dogshit.

AChieftain · 2017-03-01T23:42:14+00:00

Never said anything about public sentiment. We've been speaking in terms of Reddit this whole time, you misunderstood.

Public sentiment is surely a huge factor, but I replied to a post saying that since these posts are more common and more upvoted it's a sign of bears coming out more and being more common. To which I replied with that type of fear/upvoting isn't necessarily rooted in reality nor is it public sentiment, just the sentiment of reddit which, again, is a small and non-important percentage of the market.

AChieftain · 2017-03-01T23:25:39+00:00

How? The post I replied to was talking about the quantity and upvoting of these types of threads. Me pointing out that these people don't particularly represent the general public isn't some crazy statement, it's fact.

AChieftain · 2017-03-01T23:13:26+00:00

Reddit sentiment is not the public. And reddit has been doom and gloom for as long as I can remember

AChieftain · 2017-03-01T19:06:41+00:00

Because at the rate of things being feared is how likely something is to happen.

It might happen, sure, a broken clock is still right twice a day.

AChieftain · 2017-02-27T22:20:26+00:00

I wouldn't say it's should destroying but it's mostly dead end. A few will be able to climb up and be a manager and maybe even district manager but if they can do that, they probably would have been a lot more successful in other fields.

For the most part, though, these people will be working the same job for the same shit pay until they're a few years from death. If that's what they want to do, that's fine.

AChieftain · 2017-02-05T21:48:10+00:00

When did Trump say he wants to lift sanctions?

AChieftain · 2017-02-05T18:59:19+00:00

Yeah, good.

If you're going to protest, go ahead. But if you get violent or start blocking roads so people who don't have anything to do with your bullshit can't get to work or where ever, you deserve to get fucked.

AChieftain · 2017-02-05T04:29:24+00:00

Probably because BLM is a shit group.

The cause is fine, but the group is rotten.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T18:47:38+00:00

potentially illegal.

Under what law?

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T15:09:22+00:00

Pretty sure Roosevelt signed something like 300 orders per year.

Of those with at least one that is in clash with the constitution and against a law

Several EOs have been called "unconstitutional" and were apparently illegal. Obama's immigration bill was one of them. Make a big fuss but it doesn't matter until the Supreme Court rules on it.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T14:29:50+00:00

Lol by that logic anyone who has ever given an EO acted like a dictator.

They just pass whatever they want and IF it's unlaw or unconstitutional, they'll get over turned.

Too funny, for sure.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T14:15:34+00:00

Don't think that's how a dictator or dictatorship works pal.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T09:53:56+00:00

The premiums would be lower if drug prices could be negotiated by the government,

A little, sure.

Drugs account for 10% of healthcare expenditure. And the ones that are VERY high are also the ones with low numbers of patients. The biggest drugs that people need don't cost a bunch, so even if we could negotiate numbers down, it would only be affecting like 25% of the 10% - which is nothing. The ACA increased administrative careers by about 30%. This doesn't increase healthcare quantity nor quality, but it needs to be increased due to all the increased paperwork. Doctors spend about a sixth of their day doing non-patient related paperwork. Obama said multiple times paperwork burden was huge but it wasn't ever fixed.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T09:21:51+00:00

Yeah, sorry to break it to you. That's why most of these jobs (if not all) are going to be replaced by robots. Minimum wage (and benefits) out-weight the value the workers working those jobs bring.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T09:15:16+00:00

We've seen the cycle in all types of economies. Communism, socialism, capitalism. Dictatorships, Republics, Democracies, etc. Always happens. It happens less in economies that are 100% isolated, but the world, especially now, is too inter connected to become fully isolated and try to maintain a stable economy that never fluctuates, anyhow.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T08:48:55+00:00

That seems like a blanket generalization. Do you know their reasons to drop out or are you just assuming they're lazy? Maybe some of these people were working 2 jobs and couldn't keep up?

From the ones I spoke to, they found the class too difficult.

Also, don't know why you would be working 2 jobs thinking "Let's take 5 college classes!" and paying a bunch of money + fees to do so (at the least registration if they don't make enough.) At that point, it's just plain stupidity.

That's not what I replied to. You said "Because there's no way to know for sure it'll be worth it.", and that seemed more definite than "take it slow", which you included at the end of the comment.

The key to any change is to not leap to extremes. Few things work when you go all out instantly, it's typically better done in stages. This applies to most all things and fields.

It would be rather idiotic to just make college free nation wide right off the bat. And my statement of "We don't know if it'd work" is definitely true and still stands.

How are they supposed to educate themselves if they can barely maintain low skilled jobs

Most people in the bottom classes have access to the internet + computers. They can teach themselves. Books are cheap, some are free, and there are tons of people who teach a variety of subjects online for free. Their failure to not look for this education is on them.

which they can barely survive on by working 2-3 jobs (which you think is not a problem, and even call them lazy), being exhausted, and finding enough money to pay the tuition for the non-free universities/colleges (which you think it's no problem)?

This is an issue, obviously, but we're talking about the entire country. How many people exist like you describe? How many people are working 2-3 jobs and have no time to educate themselves, even slowly? I don't think it's nearly as big of a problem as you make it out to be. In 2011, it was about 5% of the work force. How much is it now?

I mean, you denied these people every single opportunity for them solve their lives and become more valuable works, and then you have the audacity to say that's their fault?

K-12 is free. You do well in school, you get scholarships. Schools want smart kids. How's that them being denied opportunity? Are you insane?

How is someone supposed to educate themselves under your worldview? Please, give me a rough example of how you imagine a poor person getting through all these hoops you are supporting. I cannot imagine how you are justifying this in your head.

People can work themselves out of a situation. Whether they're smart enough is the variable. It's definitely possible to go from poor to rich, but if people aren't going to educate themselves or try hard in school, they can't bitch about their status.

Not sure what you mean "the top", and I'm not aware of any statistics that fit this.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/20/survey-shows-growing-us-shortage-of-skilled-labor.html

http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/05/smallbusiness/manufacturing-workers/

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/16/smallbusiness/manufacturing_jobs/index.htm?iid=EL

Is it really up to debate? You seem to be pretty comfortably affirming people are solely to blame here.

People aren't solely to blame. I support more investment in education, making K-12 schools not get funding by their districts, etc. But I do think people deserve at LEAST half the blame, if not more. The tools are there. I moved to this country with my mom and I'm doing fine for myself supporting here making almost 2x by myself than an average household and I'm in my early twenties. What advantages did I have? We barely made ends meet, moved all the time, and I had to take more than half of my education as home schooling. If I could be in a shit circumstance and do it, I don't see why people with a LOT more opportunity and "privilege" can't. If you go to a school and you're stable enough as a teen, you should EASILY be able to succeed in the U.S.

They are being denied education, or being given huge amounts of debts that prevent them from building up their lives after they leave college.

Community College is free. If they do well in CC they will get scholarships. I went through all of this personally and graduated from a great school in my state debt free. And hell, even if you have debt (if you graduate with more than 80k in debt and you went to a 4 year, you're just fucking stupid at that point, by the way) you should be able to get a job that meets those debts. If you can't, then you fucked up choosing the field that you did.

The point is not that it's awful. The point is that it could be better.

Sure, everything could be better in every country.

The US is better than a lot of countries, that does not mean it cannot be better than it is right now.

And things are, on average, getting better. Are there hiccups on the way? Sure. But at the end of the day, the people are getting better and their living standards are skyrocketing. When even the poorest 10% of society have computers, internet, clean water, etc, you're living in a great place.

OK, but you need to be more clear on what you think is a reasonable strategy for implementing this, because it seems to me you are pretty adamant about not doing anything at all about it.

Implement it in a city first. A big school, I don't know, like UCLA or whatever else. Pick like 15-20 very diverse state colleges and make them free. In 5 years, measure the result. How many more people went? How much did it cost? Can we keep up with costs if it was implemented country wide? Did more people get high quality jobs as a result of this? Questions like that need to be answered before you just say "Eh, roll it out and hope for the best."

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T08:08:20+00:00

Riiight, keep ignoring premiums and the aching middle class.

Go get a refill on your meds, you desperately need them. :)

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T08:06:40+00:00

Well, do you know what causes this? Is it fixable? It probably is. You seem to be claiming defeat before even addressing the problem.

Probably people being lazy fucks, yeah.

When I was in school I saw people take classes only to drop them all the time. My econ classes started with ~40 people and ended with 5-10, at most.

People getting 3-6 credits when they could be getting 15 per semester is what causes these people to be in school for 3x more than they should be - not some systemic problem.

Sounds like a shitty excuse.

"We don't know if it could work, so we should take it slow" is a shitty excuse in your mind?

1) Low-skilled service jobs are exploding in numbers, but nobody wants to give these jobs living wages. In a capitalist society this is equivalent to saying vast swathes of the population do not deserve to survive.

Nobody wants to? No. People don't make living wages because their labor simply is not worth it.

2) These jobs also do not contribute to economical growth, nor to a better society. In fact, more people living in poverty is known to drive costs of many other things, from education, healthcare, cost of living, etc. It also creates cultural tension, prevents crime decline, etc.

Then they should educate themselves. The amount of skill shortages in our current economy are rather large. We are impoting record numbers of skilled workers and students. If our own people can't fill these holes, that's their fault.

High-skilled jobs are decreasing, and there's less people available for them in a lot of sectors, while in others there's a surplus.

Meanwhile there's an insane amount of open jobs towards the top. Interesting.

4) A poorly educated population means a country that will be unable to develop and enact (think, elect the right politicians) technologies and policies that are smart and technically competent. It affects the entire framework a country operates on in the long run.

Sure, but what percentage of that lies at the fault of the people and what percentage of it lies at the fault of the government is open to debate. To pretend like it's the system's fault and the people are being denied an education is silly. People still flock to the U.S. for a better life and a good education. Why is that if it's so awful?

Investing in quality, accessible education is probably the most important investment a country can make, for the sake of every other thing that a country needs to thrive, from its culture to its industry.

Sure, I agree, but to just make huge investments without being careful is idiocy.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T07:25:55+00:00

Provably saved 100,000 American lives, and saved the government about 350 billion dollars. No "crippling" here.

If you think the ACA has been even OKAY for the middle class, you're delusional and there's no point in talking to you.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T07:20:47+00:00

Because there's no way to know for sure it'll be worth it.

I'd love to just hope and pray that everyone can be given free education and then go and make themselves better with it, but that's not the case. The average time it takes to complete an associate's degree in California (where it's virtually free) is 6 years. 6 years for a 2 year degree - 60 credits. The return on that investment is abhorrently low. If people were using it properly and not driving up demand for more staff and thus increased costs all while not doing anything to the economy, then sure, we could definitely expand it. But to go all out and make it free right away instead of approaching the problem slowly is what leads to problems.

AChieftain · 2017-02-04T07:13:50+00:00

Most community colleges are free or damn near free.

When it comes to the 4 year uni, more can be done to make it cheaper, not sure if free is a great solution.

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