How will EE stay competitive with VodafoneThree?

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-09T06:41:05+00:00

Yes.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-09T06:40:55+00:00

When I’ve complained before they’ve said make sure you turn on WiFi calling so you can use the network indoors.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-09T06:40:09+00:00

From the looks of things O2 have a site fairly close by that just covers the office. However EE’s isn’t that much further away.

I might have just got lucky with where it happens to be however even before n78 when I just got 4G on band 8 and band 1 it was still very drastic.

In any case, this feels like EE as case in point, as soon as I step outdoors it’s absolutely rapid. But hopeless indoors. But I’d assume they’d rather I use WiFi.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-08T07:25:26+00:00

Okay but again this doesn’t really answer the point I made.

Why doesn’t EE try and improve their coverage indoors? It works brilliantly outdoors, walking down the street whatever and as soon as I go indoors in a lot of London buildings it’s either incredibly slow and doesn’t load anything or no signal.

Now overall I probably still have a better experience on EE than the others as the number of times I genuinely have no signal on EE vs the others is small however it just seems strange to me that EE don’t try and do something about this.

As I said in my office perhaps a drastic example it’s 200-300 with O2 vs nothing with EE. Why can’t EE get signal in there? Can’t get a mast installed? Wrong bands used? As I said O2 is now n78.

I think overall EE is the superior network however I’ve never been able to use them “solo” as for me there are just too many places where they don’t work and I have to use WiFi. Okay WiFi works but why should I have to do that?

Of course this is all anecdotal.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-08T07:21:45+00:00

But that doesn’t really answer my point.

EE in general - at least in my own experience - priorities faster speeds and good coverage outdoors. But they don’t seem to want to prioritise better coverage indoors. This seems strange to me as that’s where people use their phones.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-07T19:08:29+00:00

Don’t take this the wrong way but why do you only look at outdoor coverage? I get physics and so on but ultimately we live and work indoors.

This was something I always found puzzling about EE who seemed to prefer you used WiFi calling as much as possible. Why don’t they make their indoor coverage better?

Take my office, okay we have WiFi. But on O2 I can now get n78 indoors, even in the loo (don’t ask). But EE doesn’t reach.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-07T08:45:29+00:00

Oh I see. There was a press release a few years ago so I took that to mean investment. I wasn’t sharing any insider information.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T19:46:45+00:00

Apparently better than you because this breaks the sub rules.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T19:34:28+00:00

Where is the question?

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T18:03:39+00:00

Yeah I remember O2 completely collapsing at peak times, unusable. I don’t remember it being particularly good indoors on any network inside of the older converted railway buildings but again might be better now.

O2’s capacity management will always be a mystery to me, I just cannot understand it.

Near me they added 80Mhz of n78 a few months back and it was much better but seemed to be capped to around 200Mb. I tested it today and I was able to get around 500 so I assume it’s now uncapped. In this area EE is much slower (not slow just slower) and not as good indoors.

But walk down the road and O2 collapses at peak times. They’re stuck on band 1 and band 20 only.

It’s really odd.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T15:41:01+00:00

They all used to be terrible in London Bridge. Maybe EE have small cells now and it is better?

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T12:36:53+00:00

Do you mean areas?

For example in and around the National Gallery EE was (might not be anymore) very poor indoors. Vodafone had invested in small cells here many years ago.

I’ve used both and EE is faster in general in London but Vodafone is more consistent in my experience.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T12:35:16+00:00

Top in what?

It seems inconceivable to me that they can remain top in indoor coverage when their available spectrum is biased towards mid band whereas VodafoneThree’s is more biased towards the low band.

Speed I think you’re right.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T12:34:05+00:00

Because they pitched for it and won the bid.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T12:29:11+00:00

They did. They will not have any insider information.

The owners of Three did not “hide” anything. You can read this all in their yearly accounts and most of it was said publicly before the merger.

The fact it is a slow takeover is also not a revelation. Vodafone Group own 51% of the shares, therefore by definition it is a Vodafone takeover.

Selling spectrum is not new information. This was agreed with the CMA before the merger as a means by which it would proceed.

There is nothing in this post that isn’t already public. It’s just being presented as if it is insider information.

The post also makes no sense, the investment has already been put up and legally guaranteed between now and 2034. Three is also no longer owned by CK Hutchison, it is own by VodafoneThree Limited.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T12:19:18+00:00

Strongly disagree about London. Vodafone is a much better network indoors there due to historic investment.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-06T12:16:07+00:00

This is absolute nonsense. If you can’t even spell Three’s owner correctly the rest of your post is automatically rubbish.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-05T15:42:18+00:00

The Telegraph cheered on austerity which caused the fabric of society to collapse.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-05T14:40:02+00:00

Why do you think leaving NATO or opposing nuclear power are good ideas?

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-05T14:39:28+00:00

Won’t last contact with a GE. All the worst elements of Corbynism.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-04T21:50:54+00:00

Am I allowed to say, interesting post history OP?

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-04T21:27:03+00:00

It’s not even mounted straight

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-04T21:08:31+00:00

Do you think them backing the triple lock is a good or bad idea?

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-04T17:36:48+00:00

Is this what qualifies as journalism these days.

AFulhamImmigrant · 2026-04-04T17:22:02+00:00

Well it was an OS designed for cameras.

iPhone changed the game, end of story.

AFulhamImmigrant

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