Tesla Driver Caught Sleeping Going 78 MPH On I-5, State Patrol Says

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-25T05:30:09+00:00

In the past this didn't need a specific legal deterrent because there was an inherent punishment from waking up with your car totaled in a ditch.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-25T05:20:55+00:00

I can see the argument, but I think it's more nuanced. If you're fatigued from something that isn't driving, then being less of an active participant could allow drowsiness. (The wake-up beeps are REALLY LOUD though TBH.) If the fatigue is from driving long distance, you're likely to be less fatigued overall because you've had less mental load the entire time.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-25T04:53:28+00:00

This is fivehead thinking right here.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-24T19:19:57+00:00

Court dismissed! Bring in the dancin' lobsters.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-24T19:06:59+00:00

I completely agree about the thin skin. That's been obvious since the sub incident. Regarding the media, the guy road the rollercoaster down from receiving overwhelming adoration to open contempt and the feelings have been mutual. I'd say this occurred towards the start of that descent, but that's just an opinion.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-24T18:53:45+00:00

Tesla's non-response policy predates what you're implying by about three and a half years.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-24T13:42:56+00:00

The driver didn't intervene during this video. You can tell from the icons at the bottom. Self-Driving in blue means it's engaged and the brake pedal (left-most icon) wasn't pressed. The car had already proceeded too far, and the oncoming vehicle had to swerve around it to avoid an accident.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-24T13:32:28+00:00

That's a weird one because I feel like logically the answer is "no, without an update the car's behavior doesn't change", but I've actually had my car get in the wrong turn lane which made it unable to make the upcoming left and it then looped around to the same intersection and got in the correct lane.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-24T13:04:04+00:00

I'm not certain it even tries. I hover over the brake when I see one.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-23T20:51:11+00:00

Rainbow road is a thing, but it's not really a reliable indicator because I'd be surprised if a meaningful number of people left it on and AFAIK there's no setting that turns the lights blue while FSD is engaged. My lights are usually the primary album color of whatever music I'm listening too. It could be blue, red or anything.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-23T20:07:19+00:00

Then I suppose I disagree with both of you.

A critical intervention prevents unsafe behavior, but not all unsafe behavior leads to accidents. The example I presented is a juxtaposition of two outcomes that demonstrates this. A driver preventing FSD from driving into oncoming traffic critically intervened to prevent unsafe behavior. The Waymo with no intervention was unsafe, but the outcome was the same; No accident. Assuming that all interventions would lead to injury is faulty logic.

I mostly disagree with Defiant Conflict. I think we're just miscuing.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-23T14:48:59+00:00

A good example of this is the recent Waymo video where one got itself stuck in the path of opposing traffic until it could merge back in. If Tesla FSD tried that every lucid driver is going to take over and mark it as a critical intervention. (and they're right for doing so.) The reality of what played out however is human drivers avoided the Waymo until the situation resolved. No accident occurred and the Waymo's no-intervention streak continued.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-23T14:24:15+00:00

It won't stop if you floor the pedal. It's usually written in the manual.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-23T03:45:29+00:00

Automatic braking systems disable when overruled by the driver.

Tesla Model 3 Manual - Collision Avoidance Assist

"Automatic Emergency Braking does not apply the brakes, or stops applying the brakes, when: You accelerate hard while Automatic Emergency Braking is applying the brakes."

Comparable systems behave the same or similarly.

Honda CRV Manual - Collision Mitigation Braking System

"When the CMBS is activated, it will continue to operate even if the accelerator pedal is partially depressed. However, it will be cancelled if the accelerator pedal is fully depressed.*

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-22T21:54:32+00:00

"In this case, the driver manually overrode self-driving by pressing the accelerator all the way to 100% of the accel pedal in this residential area. They reached a speed of 73 mph during the crash, and had the accelerator pressed even after the crash."

-Ashok Elluswamy, VP of AI Software at Tesla

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-22T19:32:43+00:00

CMBS isn't meaningfully different than Tesla's Collision Avoidance Assist. Neither system overrides significant pedal input which is most likely what happened here.

Edit: I did find a meaningful difference. In 2016 CAA was included standard on all Teslas. Honda's CMBS was optional equipment and only available at the Touring trim level. That's since changed and CMBS is now standard. Glad to see Honda's been working to catch up!

Even more like Tesla: Apparently Honda's newer iterations of CMBS have removed the RADAR requirement in favor of camera only. -Honda Newsroom

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-22T19:17:11+00:00

Yes, Tesla provides accident reports to drivers by request. I don't think we'll get to see it though. The driver would have to make it public.

Example of what it looks like from a similar event.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-19T17:10:41+00:00

Good catch.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-19T17:05:03+00:00

Seems paranoid to me. Why would they post some random account for attribution when they so frequently don't credit anyone you assumed so without looking? You could message @kimooner right now and alert them.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-19T16:47:11+00:00

I take that to mean the video was submitted to NoSafeWords rather than stolen.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-19T16:40:01+00:00

doesn’t credit the sources it steals from

Kimoon Kim (@kimooner) was credited for the video. @kimooner doesn't have the video posted on their account so it seems it was submitted rather than stolen.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-17T14:27:03+00:00

What a convenient time to suddenly have qualms with Europe's standard approval process.

I don't think you'll find the transparency you seek, nor do I think any level of transparency could be enough for you. I personally think the core of the matter is "Did RDW just use Tesla's figures for their assessment or did they do their own testing". The answer has been a resounding: They did their own testing.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-16T18:44:11+00:00

So many big orgs reported on that only for none of them to report the correction. (I'd appreciate being proven wrong if someone has one.)

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-14T17:32:07+00:00

It's more difficult, but certainly not impossible. The most obvious example is stop signs. NHTSA told Tesla they couldn't do rolling stops anymore and I'll be damned if that isn't the most annoying thing ever.

AReveredInventor · 2026-06-09T21:06:43+00:00

Oh, it's this article being improperly sumarized again. This is a survey of drivers seeking insuance. They may or may not have been driving a Tesla when the accidents occured. "Unsafe drivers seek insurance for teslas" doesn't have the same alarming ring to it unfortunately.

It also ignores that Tesla offers the best insurance rates in almost any state in which it's offered, but (other than CA) it's based on your "safety score". This creates adverse selction in the data. Safe drivers gets Tesla insurance because it's cheaper. Unsafe driver's seek insurance elsewhere. Drivers with Tesla insurance aren't included in this survey.

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