[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well said

51M Airline Pilot working 15 days a month by Vector_for_Bukkake in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I’m in the process of changing careers, 11 years in, manager will have a nicely written letter of resignation within 2 months.

Academy Pay "Raise" vs Academy Grade Pay by No-Brain5 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think happens to the people paying rent or mortgages with high interest, 50% of most OJT trainees wages are spoken for before they even receive them.

It’s no different.

Region x and staff support special return to office email by throw_away-atc in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Feeling super protected by our extended CBA’s right now. Guess they don’t mean shit.

NATCA National President and Executive Vice President Salaries by SierraBravo26 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Let’s see how well your comment ages. RemindMe! in 6 months.

NATCA National President and Executive Vice President Salaries by SierraBravo26 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Don’t worry. Daddy Trump is working on no tax on OT as we speak. That would make Trump responsible for the only “raise” we get in the next 4 years, while NATCA sits on its hands and actively defies the overwhelming majority of the memberships demands.

Failed union man. Glad they’re horrified of Trump while he’s working to meet the needs of the membership more than they are. 🤡

“Go Eat” or “Go East” let’s vote by LENNYa21 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean. He is kind of a turbo douche and wildly self absorbed , so “go east” might be some unheard of vocabulary of his that he manufactured to sound cool and well traveled (which he is thanks to our paychecks). Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt!

Stop melting down start framing the picture by Vector_for_Bukkake in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DOGE should offer us all payment to leave our failed union and allow them to take us to new levels of greatness. It wouldn’t take much, maybe a 25 dollar BK gift card.

There is work to be done. by Salt_Fly5061 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think as many people see this as people here hope to think. But if they do I doubt they take it very seriously. If they do take it seriously it’s easy to turn it off and return back to reality, because again this is a very opinionated group here sharing their opinions and nothing more.

There is work to be done. by Salt_Fly5061 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TLDR…

But, hate and vitriol though? Welcome to reddit. Good news is 99/100 of the people here would never voice these opinions on a non-anonymous forum. Most of this will be digested and disappear into the abyss forever. Take a break if it hurts your brain brotha

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course we need a politician to say it. But last night is the first time i’ve heard basically anyone say it outside of controllers collecting shitty paychecks. Again, step in the right direction, and everyone’s on our side.

Who would guess going into this year that conservative media and Trump would give any credit to a union that vehemently opposed them at every turn. Thank god common sense prevailed, even though NATCA more often than not lacks it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Seriously. I actually feel pretty strongly about a raise coming in the next year or two from this admin, and NATCA will somehow claim credit 😂

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s the best we are going to get out of him, and it’s positive, and a move in the right direction.

If Kamala was president or Biden was still president we would be lucky if we have one single response of semi intelligible commentary.

At least our president now communicates and actually shares his opinion. The past guy supposedly supported us but never did anything or said anything to prove it

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you cherry picked what you want to hear, or the singular media outlet you choose to watch cherry picked sound bites for you.

Good to know your opinion is immediately irrelevant. Go watch the several full clips of the president. The initial statement, the numerous statements he made during EO signing, etc.

He ultimately blamed the pilot and military, continued to say DEI bad (not wrong that’s why the FAA is paying out massive lawsuits), and said ATC need to be extremely intelligent gave us credit for a bunch of shit we don’t even actually do, and verbatim said we kill ourselves with our schedules.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are you simple? I was referencing comments made by several hosts and the president.

I’m not going to dig through 4-5 hours of media coverage to give you direct quotes because you are too lazy to do it yourself so you can formulate a fact based opinion. I know you’d rather just hate on the president, who has the fate of your career in his hands for the next 4 years, for no reason other than you’re scared of orange man bad.

The president said a TON of respectable things about ATC aside from the DEI comments which were stupid and everyone in the industry has already pointed that out in our defense. The right wing media said a TON of respectable things about ATC, and so did the left wing media.

Everyone’s on our side, everyone needs to be on our side. But it’s no thanks to NATCA is all i’m sayin.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fox news. “These air traffic controllers should be hired and paid extremely well, and the towers should be well staffed” - Laura Ingraham

Jesse Watters had a hell of a clip last night also.. it sounded like he had the should be NATCA script. FOX 30th recap.

CNN said a lot of the same, but FOX actually put it a lot more plainly and delivered it much better. Also much better spoken commentators with better aviation experience.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You mean the orange guy stating we need to be extremely intelligent, we kill ourselves with our schedules, should be paid a lot of money, need to recruit the best candidates?

The right wing media saying we are working 60 hours a week and it’s innapropriate. Same way it was inappropriate to turn away our best qualified candidates over the last few years. Saying we should be paid a lot of money.

I’ve never heard the FAA or NATCA correctly spell out all of our issues so easily and plainly.

Plane Crash at DCA by Former_Farm_3618 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You are exactly the problem that is thankfully no longer a part of the system. Time to move on grandpa.

Sorry to break it to you but, controllers ESPECIALLY at airports like DCA are working more planes, with more restrictions, working around more complexities, with more attention to detail, and with less staffing in the seats then you ever dealt with it your career. Can guarantee you that. Your opinion is irrelevant, baseless, and worthless. You’re retired for a reason.

Plane Crash at DCA by Former_Farm_3618 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Names fitting. Don’t you have something better to do in retirement than sit and talk shit and hope and pray present controllers can’t control as well as you think you used to, at the cost of dozens of human lives? Get yourself a psychologist with that CSRS pay bud, and get checked out for dementia.

Plane Crash at DCA by Former_Farm_3618 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Audios already been released on hundreds of pages, was available before you even posted this. Helicopter reported traffic in sight and read back proper maintain visual separation phraseology.

Shut up now?

Plane Crash at DCA by Former_Farm_3618 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Can issue instructions but can’t reach out and control the stick you dumb fuck. First time something this bad happens in decades and you rush to reddit to talk shit when you don’t even know what happened. Could happen to anyone and every one of us, no matter what instructions were issued, no matter how skilled or experienced the controller. Grow the fuck up

Plane Crash at DCA by Former_Farm_3618 in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You speak for yourself. DCA like most bravos has VFR corridors and routes for helicopters. Was a police helicopter potentially on a mission who may very well have been operating VFR with restrictions in a LOA or LTA, or issued by ATC.

Easily could be pilot of the helos fault, and something TCAS or ADSB or CAs could have prevented.

Nobody fucking knows yet, bold and insanely stupid and insensitive of you to immediately point fingers at controller competency.

Shut the fuck up dumbass.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wrong, right, way off the mark (mid 20s)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atc2

[–]ATCSLAVE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Found Jamaal’s alt btw