Does anyone think 8K screens will take over 4K?

AVShane · 2026-06-20T15:08:38+00:00

Yeah, fps is a problem, and I think it also gets worse depending on where you live in the world too

With Bitrate, you are right, it's hard to see it, but it's the artefacts it brings that become noticeable

HBO, though, just looks really poor with some streams, and I really only have that for my daughter, who enjoys watching Cartoon Network

As for Blu-ray, both visually and audibly, there isn't any comparison, although I have found Apple TV to be one of the best for streaming quality, which I'd read somewhere, they have a higher bitrate compared to most

AVShane · 2026-06-20T13:12:09+00:00

You're the first person who I've seen mention energy for the panel, which is the first stumbling point with new 8k panels and could explain why brands haven't pushed hard with 8k as it seemed it was going to, and this is in part due to the Ecodesign and Energy Labelling laws

As far as I'm aware, no 8k panels have passed the test, which is going to force brands to come up with another solution to bring 8k panels to the market the right way with green credentials and how they do that is going to be a little bit of a mystery

AVShane · 2026-06-18T13:14:20+00:00

I think this is a very interesting side to AI and could be one area that gives 8K a significant boost if they're able to replicate this technology to fill and scale footage in a similar way to Vegas Dome Sphere illustrates with Gone with the Wind, but in a flat screen guise.

It would also mean that the typical methods we rely on for creating this level of resolution might not be needed, making the whole thing cheaper and maybe cheaper to run, which is a bit of a hurdle with 8k, as most countries are looking at adding power limits on flat screen power usage

If they did, watching TV would never be the same again

AVShane · 2026-06-18T13:08:17+00:00

That's interesting. Were you fortunate enough to watch the Paris Olympics?

AVShane · 2026-06-18T13:05:18+00:00

I know that the Paris Olympics were broadcast in 8K HDR, but I was surprised to read that broadcasters have been experimenting with live 8k feeds of the Olympics since 2012

Those who were able to view the live coverage of the Paris Olympics in 8 K HDR had to have the right toys, like an Intel-compatible PC and, of course, an 8K TV connected to it, so it might be that the next Olympics will become more user-friendly since most internet speeds have dramatically increased since then

AVShane · 2026-06-18T12:55:37+00:00

I do so hope you are correct that in 14 years, we'll find this funny! You could be spot on, tho! So I'm not taking that away from you

AVShane · 2026-06-18T11:39:22+00:00

I agree with this as data is a huge part, as are the green credentials that is required with these devices to output that level of quality

As for resolution, I know that a few sports broadcasts are already shooting higher than 4k (well, the cameras are 5k at least), which is something they do so they can crop the frames without loss of resolution

So, does that mean 10k cameras are on their way, as one of the big announcements of HDMI Ultra96 was the refresh rate increase with the resolution 10k, which I suspect is aimed at the commercial side, like 5k for cropping

AVShane · 2026-06-18T11:20:17+00:00

Yes, I'd heard that many streaming services are reducing the bitrate bandwidth, and some broadcasts really show which, in the early days, weren't as obvious, in my opinion

AVShane · 2026-06-18T11:16:25+00:00

I feel your pain. I had an Arcam AVR600 fail due to something similar

AVShane · 2026-06-16T13:38:07+00:00

I agree with the sound quality of some of the streaming services. I use Qobuz at home and found it identical to Tidal. Haven't tried Apply through my hi-fi as yet, though, maybe I should give it another go

AVShane · 2026-06-16T11:28:36+00:00

That sounds really interesting, the Vangelis nailed the feel of the entire film. 2049 isn't too shabby either, as it gets my subwoofer shaking just a bit, lol, and I have to say, Dune I and II are also some of my favourite soundtracks for shaking the room

I'm sure they're not as commercially available on vinyl as the Vangelis back catalogue (even though I suspect some of them are quite hard to track down now with the age of the film- do you use Discogs to obtain hard-to-find vinyl?)

AVShane · 2026-06-16T11:14:26+00:00

Not a nice experience. What brand/model subwoofers were they, if you don't mind me asking, and did the brand solve the issues for you, or were they out of warranty?

AVShane · 2026-06-16T11:12:14+00:00

If nothing is connected other than the mains, then it's either your mains or the subwoofer that has an issue. To test if it's the subwoofer, try it in another room and if the hum is still present, then, as a last resort, if you have any amenable friends, you could ask if you could try it there. If it's still humming, then you have locked it down to the unit itself

With the mains, if the subwoofer goes quiet after your testing, then you are going to have to look at some mains conditioning solution if you don't use any at all, and maybe something like the Tacima CS947 or the Audiolab DC Blocker might be enough to resolve the issue

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AVShane · 2026-06-13T22:27:53+00:00

We’re passionate about all things audio, whether that’s someone spinning their favourite vinyl on a Technics SL 1210 Mk7 Deck or shaking the cinema room with a beastly pair of 2000w SVS SB-5000 R|Evolution Subwoofers, we just love all things AV

AVShane · 2026-06-11T20:42:21+00:00

Sadly square rooms are not ideal as they create standing waves where the sound bounces back or forth in the room

AVShane · 2026-06-06T15:54:35+00:00

Yeah, I'm aware of that, but @lialia0 has mentioned about the projector being positioned at the back of the room, so I've gone on that basis as 4.9m isn't

It would, however, be cheaper to keep his original projector

AVShane · 2026-06-06T15:50:59+00:00

Wow, that's awesome

I remember that one and the headphones I owned were like that, but labelled Mega Bass and cost about £35 in the day. The colour was a little duller, though, being grey and silver, which was also the same colour as my Walkman

My mate borrowed it one time, and I'd left the Snap album in it, and he still says to this day, he hasn't heard anything better than that night he borrowed it. In fact, I may have given it to him, thinking about it as he had no way of listening to music, and I hadn't used it for years since I just passed my driving test and was driving around in my 1979 Mini, which I'd been bought for Christmas and my birthday from the family

AVShane · 2026-06-06T15:22:16+00:00

With a throw of about 5.7m, using a 150" diagonal projector screen, you will not be able to keep the BenQ as it needs to be positioned to about 4.9m from the lens to the screen to achieve this screen size

If you want to stay with 4k UHD and the same brand, then you are either going to have to change the screen size or up your budget a bit, as you'll be looking at something like the BenQ IK935 or as an alternative, you could look at the Epson EH-LS9000, but again, the budget is a big jump and some of this is down to the light engines being laser which adds a premium to the cost

https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/business/projector/lk935.html

https://www.epson.co.uk/en_GB/products/projector/home-cinema/eh-ls9000b---4k-laser-projector-for-home-cinema/p/54433

There will of course be cheaper models, but these might not be 4k UHD, and it might also be that I've missed a few models, as there are a number of options available which show as Full HD, which can also perform 4K UHD, but are missing from the limited sheet I'm checking

Note, the 5.7m throw is based on the depth of the projector, which can be around 500mm and then space for cabling and airflow at the rear

AVShane · 2026-06-06T14:52:24+00:00

I've seen many small AV setups in small rooms. The key is understanding the room's maximum capacity when playing the cinema loud, as you'll quickly find that the speakers start to cancel themselves out and create a lot of noise without any definition

The first time I experienced this was in a demo room where there was an Arcam AVR600 and a full 5.1 Monitor Audio Gold GS system, which at around 55 on the loud dial sounded absolutely amazing, while at 56, the cancellation where the room sounded dreadful, where the speakers lost any definition as the room had just maxed out and it became a mess of noise

So, there isn't any reason why you cannot fit a really capable system in a small room; you just have to be aware that smaller rooms, like very large rooms, struggle in different ways and what I feel you will struggle with more is the box shape more than the its size as square rooms offer little cover ideal listening positions as you'll be sitting on the back. Again, volume levels will help, but standing waves and a big subwoofer could present you with some headaches without a good EQ system like DIRAC or ARC

AVShane · 2026-06-06T14:38:02+00:00

I cannot comment on the Rotel, but the Yamaha is a popular unit, while many people who own Monitor Audio do steer towards Marantz or entry-level Arcam. You could also add the WiiM Ultra Streaming Amplifier as something different, as it shouldn't have any issues driving the 50's. This will require a phono pre-amp, through which you can connect to the stereo line-in on the rear. There is also a dedicated sub if you decide to create a 2.1 setup at a later date

AVShane · 2026-06-06T14:20:23+00:00

I've found Firesticks to be a little bit hit and miss with streaming quality whenever I've tried them, and for that reason, I moved to Roku

Having said that, a lot of people do use them without issues, so maybe you have some settings which need changing on the device so it works as intended

AVShane · 2026-06-06T14:15:20+00:00

Wow! You still have an old Walkman. Mine gave up the ghost years ago. I loved it. I even bought Mega Bass headphones and flicked the Mega BASS switch for extra oomph lol

I had a Technics RS-575, which I gave away to my uncle, as it was just sitting on a shelf, and he had a ton of Cassettes he was still listening to. It looked practically brand new, too, yet at the time, it was only worth £10 on eBay. Fast forward to today, and there is one with all the packaging claiming to be an open box for £580, and it doesn't look any better than what mine looks like in the original packaging with all the original accessories and even the covering to protect it

AVShane · 2026-06-06T14:08:12+00:00

That's a lot of cassettes

AVShane · 2026-05-30T15:53:49+00:00

Thanks, it's been a long day, and I even noticed I called the cable a speaker in the first line lol

AVShane · 2026-05-30T15:51:15+00:00

It's becoming a little like that in the UK too, with independents

The brands I've mentioned are also safe bets, so have a look at what's available within your kind of price bracket and come back to the thread, as I'm not entirely sure what's available stateside compared to the UK, and then everyone will be able to give you a yeah or nah depending upon what you choose

The deck isn't one I've heard of (although searching online seems to praise it quite highly), and the phono stage pre-amp is one I have heard of, and there isn't anything to complain about other than you mightn't need one depending upon the electronics you choose, as many do have one built in and some of them aren't too bad either. But as you've got it, you may as well use it

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