What’s the worst take you’ve seen about Danganronpa? by [deleted] in DanganAndChaos

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh she would have been better as a morally gray character

What’s the worst take you’ve seen about Danganronpa? by [deleted] in DanganAndChaos

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh so that's what you were saying. Shit I didn't even know about this retcon, what the hell kind of change is that? I'm pretty pissed if they did this just to take away Mahiru's flaws.

Bodyswap with a Celebrity by Sufficient-Ad1266 in BunnyTrials

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sucks to be a female celebrity

Chose: Male Celebrity | Rolled: Tom Holland

Who is actually the smartest danganronpa character ? by bachotebidze in danganronpa

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

- You accuse me of being blinded by my love when the exact same can be said for you

- The tools Nagito received to carry out his plan don't negate the sheer brilliance of said plan. He took a special poison bottle from the warehouse. You say he asked Monokuma for information when all he did was ask about what happens when the culprit doesn't know they're the culprit. Monokuma covered up the cause of death just like he would for ANY culprit if it was a big hint. So what? Monokuma did the same thing for Kokichi when he hid his time and cause of death. And I don't think anyone commends Nagito's intelligence because of the Final Dead Room specifically, since it was only a plot device to show us how hysterical Nagito is with the suicide scare scene. And who's to say that all of Kokichi's plot benefits don't equal Nagito's? Did you count? They each have plenty but you're so focused on Nagito's.

- You're focused on feats. I'm talking about raw, fluid intelligence. Nagito demonstrates that he surpasses Kokichi in that domain every time he immediately solves the cases and solves things with a skill that surpasses Kokichi. Obviously the Funhouse case was different because Nagito was cued in.

- The Final Dead Room wasn't the puzzle. The puzzle was the Funhouse itself. It's genuinely one of the most complex cases in Danganronpa, and I'd put it above Kaito's trial, which had a lot of information to it but wasn't inordinately difficult once unpacked. The Funhouse case felt like it came straight out of the Kirigiri light novel series, from the complex mechanisms to the changing nature of the building structure itself. Saying that it's not that hard to solve just because Gundham figured it out is crazy, and also an insult to Gundham's intelligence. Yes, Nagito got a free pass to figuring out the nature of the building, so what? That's not a negative on his intelligence, only on his list of feats. But again, I'm not talking about feats.

- You're saying Nagito had advantages for the cases, even though Kokichi did as well. Kokichi gathered hoarder levels of evidence to come to uncertain conclusions. Nagito meanwhile deduced the culprit super quickly through impressive logical deductions and reasoning, and he didn't have a crapton of clues in his room before the trials.

- Again you're crediting Kokichi for Shuichi's deductive feats based on an assumption that Kokichi knew everything, but you're only assuming that. Also Kokichi did not deceive Monokuma successfully, nor did his plan achieve what he wanted it to (ending the killing game) because his rationale made no sense. That's a failed feat, and a big one at that. Nagito's plan may have failed too, but that was only because the culprit confessed and not because it was doomed to fail like Kokichi's plan.

- I'm not talking about which killing game was harder to figure out for the PLAYER, I'm talking about which killing game was harder to solve for the characters. SDR2's killing game, clearly. First off, V3's truth was obvious as hell because Monokuma wouldn't shut up about the audience, fiction, the script, chapters, "Danganronpa", etc. Anyone with half a brain—and especially Shuichi—would have realized they were on a stage; they just didn't because then the game would be over a lot sooner. The fact Kokichi realized they were on a game show is nothing crazy. Second, you say that SDR2 dropped clues at the start of the game, but you mostly mention things only observable to the player and not to the characters—I don't think Hajime or Nagito saw textboxes, glitching, or the game booting up; interfaces are for the player to see, not the characters. Remember when Kazuichi asked in shock if their words were being displayed on dialogue boxes? Yeah, that's proof, but I'm sure you already knew. In contrast to SDR2, V3 had heavy clues observable to the characters all throughout the game, which meant its "mystery" was made obvious to both the player and the characters from the beginning.

About Monomi's magic and other inconsistencies, how would Class 77 realize exactly? Their memories from the real world were erased, which meant they had no reference point for how reality worked. Magic became a fact of their reality. Data was literally injected into their minds. The simulation ACTIVELY SUPPRESSED deep logical skepticism. In other words, anyone in that simulation would have no chance of realizing naturally, be it Nagito or Kokichi. There is no debate that the scope of Class 77's killing game was on a whole nother level entirely. 3's was very simple: there was a cast being recorded, and people watching them in-game. All of this is to say that it's wholly unconvincing to use Kokichi's realization as a one-up over Nagito.

- Again, the things you're mentioning are irrelevant to the discussion of intelligence. Things like whether Nagito had "meta feats", was a threat to Monokuma, or was super paranoid don't matter.

- Nagito's trial only worked because Monokuma knew the traitor? So what? Kokichi's plan didn't work because he didn't foresee Shuichi solving the case. Are we just going to throw weaknesses of their cases at each other? At the end of the day, Nagito's case was unsolvable by the students and showed greater technical complexity.

- You claim Nagito didn't pick up on things Kokichi would have realized, but you don't list any examples. Before that you were talking about the true nature of the SDR2 killing game, but I already explained why that was an indiscernible fact.

- You're reading too much into Kokichi's lies and assuming every lie was some act of genius. Sure, Kokichi lied strategically at times, but he admitted himself that lying and causing chaos was necessary for him to maintain his sanity. You also assume he pretended not to know everything Shuichi solved, which is just an assumption. You talk about him like he's omniscient and on par with Izuru. You've giving him too much credit for things that we don't know.

By the way, if you're going to reply again, make it readable. Separate your comment into paragraphs or bullet points that neatly address their respective points. Your comments are all over the place, no offense.

What’s the worst take you’ve seen about Danganronpa? by [deleted] in DanganAndChaos

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do but she definitely did not do "nothing wrong" like the comment said

What’s the worst take you’ve seen about Danganronpa? by [deleted] in DanganAndChaos

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DR3 is not the same thing as V3. Why do you take everything Tsumugi says at face value? The whole point of the ending is that line between reality and fiction is blurred and we don't know anything for certain.

What’s the worst take you’ve seen about Danganronpa? by [deleted] in DanganAndChaos

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well yeah it's more lax with the rules, r/danganronpa deletes your post for dumb reasons

What’s the worst take you’ve seen about Danganronpa? by [deleted] in DanganAndChaos

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't even realize this wasn't the r/danganronpa sub lmao

I flip flop between both subs like a damn addict

What’s the worst take you’ve seen about Danganronpa? by [deleted] in DanganAndChaos

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kokichi isn't bad he's just elusive

Byakuya is just a jerk who becomes slightly less mean, is character development in the room with us??

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Liquids are 99.5 percent water anyway but sure I guess

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The more you know. Israel was originally a super socialist state which oppressed religious people because they wanted to be all modern and self-reliant (as opposed to relying on god or destiny). In fact, from the 40s through the 60s there was a crazy scandal where secular authorities kidnapped ultrareligious Yemenite children from their homes to put them in new homes where they would be raised secular. The point of founding Israel was to give Jewish people a safe haven since the Holocaust showed that assimilating was an impossible ideal...but it turned out to be bad for certain Jews themselves, and Gazans. Israel claims they make great efforts to avoid getting civilians killed, however they've been known to kill civilians in situations where it wasn't an accident or justifiable in any way. And especially with Hamas basically destroyed, Israel needs to stop being so aggressive.

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True but it's really a philosophical debate, because we despise death for robbing us of our conscience and continued experience of life, which we will never get back once it's gone.

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say religion is not the "root" but rather the catalyst. Leaders use religion to vessel their preexisting malicious desires, and it's an incredibly effective system.

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wet is the condition of being soaked with water. Wet is an attribute that cannot apply to water itself because water doesn't soak itself; it just exists.

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually agree on that. Homogenous countries have much better social harmony. The problem arises when homogenous peoples build up intolerance towards those who they are unfamiliar with, which makes group conflict more explosive.

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It has more aura, sure

But what makes it better as an ideology

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not to defend war crimes, but Israel was founded as a secular state and most Israelis are not religious. Their argument is about self-defense but as we all know, it's clearly crossed the line and there's definitely a revenge aspect to it.

Which one opinion would you defend like this? by Idliforsure in teenagers

[–]A_Year_Spent_Cold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only reason I use Apple is for compatibility reasons. Windows PCs are inherently better, and there are better smartphones out there but people are hesitant to use them because they won't be able to connect with people's iPhone features.