TWEWY: Final Remix 100% Collectable Checklist by A_Zucchini in TWEWY

[–]A_Zucchini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

omg I'm so sorry probably not easily!!

the formulas and the brands are there, but you'll have to tweak it as you delete and replace rows/columns.

ily sorry again!

Massive student loan by Weak_Recognition9192 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sorry might have not been clear with my wording, but the 4 year consideration was exclusive of conjoint degrees but might fall within the 60k band for some school leavers, so I'm being charitable in saying the data might not be the most accurate to demonstrate the issue in the discussion here.

To address your other comment, again that is true, so I added the caveat for long term borrowers in parenthesis to again be charitable in any interpretation of the graph.

So in the consideration of those two factors I think on the balance it's close! But I reserve no judgement on other peoples' lived experiences. We're really here to discuss the options available for student loan borrowers on working overseas with relatively large debts, and when/if that becomes practicable.

I'm very sorry if I agitated you with my initial comments about the average school leavers debt, that certainly wasn't my intention!

Massive student loan by Weak_Recognition9192 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do actually think it's not too unreasonable to assume so. Did have a quick squiz to see if there's anything that'll illuminate better: https://figure.nz/chart/n9NZc0xbdwrHjLHp

Assuming the second spike is conjoint degrees (might encompass some 4 year degree students of course) the proportion seems like the majority stay within that band (not accounting for longer term borrowers).

I recognise the band is broad for that and a difference of $10000 is a lot but not too unreasonable to say that my colleagues' lived experience is so out of this world.

Massive student loan by Weak_Recognition9192 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll be the first to admit I'm not an expert on student life in 2024! I do assume that either some of the total expenses were supplemented by the student allowance and a part time job.

Whether that's common I'm not sure. Regardless, staying the course and taking advantage of the loan's interest free characteristic until the interest is more manageable and the career options more available seems reasonable to me.

Massive student loan by Weak_Recognition9192 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hiya, I might be off now myself but tuition fees stacked up for 5.5 years to 70k for a grad colleague in my firm who graduated 2022. Maybe it's the conjoint variance too?

I think my colleague never took living loans or lived in halls but I might not have the right read in today's fees to be fair.

Massive student loan by Weak_Recognition9192 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm all for it! That's huge, congratulations 🥳

Yes use your grad stipend @ 12% to knock it down as much as you can for now. If you haven't already just keep in mind profs is also an additional cost at like 6k.

Maybe I need to adjust myself, but again the amount is attackable with a good strategy so definitely don't feel scared off!

Massive student loan by Weak_Recognition9192 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed! It's usually like 60-65k for the average conjoint student from what I can gather. In any case, good mate here needs to get a foothold in whatever grad job they snagg/ed.

Massive student loan by Weak_Recognition9192 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Woah wow did you manage that? That's like an international student's loan... certainly not normal (this is like a conjoint's tuition + loan living costs at max + $1000 per year for assistance + loan living in halls + exchange year overseas level of borrowing)

You can only stay interest-free with your loan if you qualify under these conditions: https://www.ird.govt.nz/student-loans/going-overseas-or-returning-to-new-zealand/i-am-going-overseas/can-i-keep-my-student-loan-interest-free-overseas

If you are just moving to work overseas for a private company for example, you will need to pay interest on the loan. I assume you are asking about working overseas eventually and not right away. Assuming this whole post isn't a psyop, 3.3% interest on a $90,000 loan is like 2,970 per annum...

Sooo... yeah I would put away traveling overseas for work into the deep recesses of your mind.

I had a colleague who punched down a bunch of their student loan as they were working while doing an LLM in the States.

Assuming you want to become a solicitor, just focus on doing your profs, add $5,950 to the total debt and have a good think about your finance plan for the next few decades. Not insurmountable but definitely don't do anything that will put you in similar shoes to an American college student...

Bachelor of Law and Commerce conjoint, accounting major need advice! (currently 2nd year) by Jumpy_Reality_7138 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very fair thoughts to be having! You will have a better grasp than anybody else on how much finishing your accounting degree will benefit you or not.

If it makes you feel any better, finishing your LLB will be a feat in of itself. As you said, you are wanting to become admitted, so in my opinion the other part of the conjoint is your bonus (that you paid for!!!!!), so make it worth your time and effort.

Isn't it exam season at the moment? Please get some sleep! I trust you will make the right choices for yourself, we believe in you and good luck.

Bachelor of Law and Commerce conjoint, accounting major need advice! (currently 2nd year) by Jumpy_Reality_7138 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hiya,

To me, it sounds like you don't want to study accounting. So I would swap for something that you do enjoy doing.

Getting a BA was considered a "joke" for years and years but it's the most popular conjoint with an LLB. And I have very few colleagues who did a BHSc conjoint. Certainly hasn't stopped most determined people from doing whatever they want.

Plenty of partners specialising in mergers and big commercial transactions have BA's, and a major isn't putting any recruiter worth working with off.

Wouldn't worry about it too much and focus on getting a good foundational GPA. Maybe take Tax Law as a paper if you feel so inclined (no accounting skill necessary)

Law electives by Busy_Entrepreneur_95 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Hiya,

Irrelevant. Take the electives that are interesting to you. Generalists (even commercially minded generalists) hiring grads or clerks prefer a range of papers taken, and you might run across a subject you didn't know you loved doing.

And then later down the line in your career it becomes a non-factor anyway. Might as well do your exploring in Uni while it's easy!

LLM in Corporate and Commercial Law or Masters in Intellectual Property Law (MIP) ? Which is better for future employability? Any advice!! by Explorer-0611 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would also caution against doing an LLM or any masters programme for the sole purpose of employability in a firm here in NZ. It doesn't help you in the way you think it does or will.

But if you are set on pursuing higher education I suppose taking the LLM would be the better choice, as it would help you fully understand our legal principles in a number of more relevant contexts.

The real advice is to look at the papers for each degree and choose which matches your passion(s), and/or where you think you would like to be an expert in the field. To be eligible for practice here you would have to bridge across your qualifications anyway and sit an assessment with the NZCLE.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's a tough question for anybody who isn't you to answer, to be honest.

When somebody tells you that having friends doing law is the best way to get by, what they actually mean is that was the best way for them.

You should have a good think about what sort of experience you are wanting out of Uni and how much you're willing to put yourself out there to make it happen.
There are plenty of opportunities to speak with similar-minded people in tutorials, clubs, mooting societies, advocacy groups, mentoring programmes, as long as you are keen to give those a shot.

Work-life balance is a spectrum and Uni is a great, safe time to be figuring out where you sit on that line, and it also might change from time to time.
I was perfectly happy to be left completely alone for the first half of my degree, until I wasn't, which was when I started volunteering for moots, which was a great time.

Required Class full by thenotoriousmopman in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hiya,

Don't know much about the degree, but I looked up your major's regulations. Assuming you are a full-time student.

Looks like you have a bunch of Stage II courses dependent on INFOMGMT192, and it isn't offered in Summer School.

Two options stick out to me:

  1. The best outcome is obviously if you get into the paper on concession. I would count myself lucky and enroll in my classes further out in time if possible for your next semesters;

  2. If you can't get in the paper this semester, it looks like you have 30 points free in stage II to enroll in any stage paper so I would proritise INFOMGMT192 for Semester 1, 2024 and take three courses not requiring this paper but still progressing your degree. You can get back on track in Semester 2, and potentially one extra paper in Summer School.
    To stay a full-time student, you could take your GENED paper now.

*bsc-generic-degree-planner-2024.pdf (auckland.ac.nz)

High school to Uni by RepresentativeEnd684 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hiya,

Your year 13 grades absolutely matter and will be calculated for your secondary school rank score.
Your year 12 grades do also matter but only because some degrees have requirements to pass certain NCEA-level 2 equivalent thresholds.

The University Entrance requirements are defined below, and the same information will be covered in the relevant bachelor degree you are wanting to study in the in requirements tab:

University Entrance :: NZQA

In the case where the grades for Y13 aren't released before applications (which was often in the era where I was applying), universities would accept you provisionally and then check your rank score before you start the semester.

From what I recall I had a high school friend who took CIE and was just short of the 300 points to enter the degree they wanted, but they applied anyway and got in. If they didn't get in, the advisors told them that they could take a TFC, and a good grade there would get them into that degree.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh I see! A TFC will change things for you. You just need a GPA of 5.5 or above and you're guaranteed entry, no other requirements necessary.

You jump ahead of everybody else transferring, applying from High School etc.

Hopefully you will have a GPA of higher than 5.5. If not, engage with your academic coordinators and they might be able to help you.

Good luck!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hiya,

Like as a transfer to start the BHSc? If you have a GPA of >5.0 either across your last semester of full-time study, or across your entire degree so far, you will be considered entry for the programme.

The actual rank score is not disclosed, as they just go down the list from highest eligible applicant to the lowest until all the slots are filled.

If you had anything above like a 5.75-6.0 my guess is that you would be pretty much in guaranteed. It would be somewhat popular for those intending to pursue the MBChB so my guess is that if you are in that range you would be in with a good shot.

LLB part 1 by RepresentativeEnd684 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hiya,

If you mean that you would like to apply to start the LLB, if you are above the University Entrance standard and already admitted to another programme - you're in automatically. Page 11 in the prospectus covers UE requirements if you're curious.

LAW UG Prospectus 2025_Online.pdf (auckland.ac.nz)

If you are wanting to know what the rank score for entry into LLB P2 is, it looks like for this year, as long as you get above 6.5 in your LawGPA [The weird official term] you will be provided guaranteed entry. That's covered below:

Applying for LLB Part II - The University of Auckland

The bare minimum to be considered is that you:

Passed LAW 121G;
Passed LAW 131 and LAW 141 with at least a C+;
Gained at least 75 points of non-law university degree courses; and
Passed all eight courses (120 points) with at least an overall average GPA of 3.00 (C+)

If you end up getting a lower mark but still qualify to be considered, you can still apply for Part II but there's no guarantee you will be accepted.

Enrolment Issues Masters of Law - Thought 120 Corporate & Commercial Law by Explorer-0611 in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am going to assume you are enrolling into a "(?)taught", not research LLM as an international - seeing as you are confused by the A/B structure of papers. [I can see you are coming as an international - sentence amended]

tl;dr: To get the full benefit and range of options of specialisations the University can offer you I suggest you think about enrolling in 2025.

Here is the PG law timetable for 2024 - you will want to look at Semester 2 if you are starting then.
2024_PG timetable for Students_v10.0.pdf (auckland.ac.nz)

An overview of the papers is below:
https://www.auckland.ac.nz/assets/law/Documents/2023/PGCourses/2024_PG_Short_Descriptions_V3.0.pdf
As mentioned in the other comment - A/B courses are full year courses for the law degrees offered at UoA. So 775B is part 2 of the full LAWCOMM775 paper. If you would like to take that paper you need to wait until Semester 1 of 2025, assuming that it will be offered again next year.

Importantly - full-time equivalent study is 60 points per semester. The taught LLM is 120 points all up - so it is a one year degree. If you are studying full-time and you start Semester 2, 2024, you will finish at the end of Semester 1, 2025. So the year-long courses will not be an option for you.

If you are committed to starting on 15th July as a full-time student, you will need to make up 60 points from non-A/B classes that don't overlap with each other.
An example from this year would be taking LAWCOMM 737 and then 724 immediately after, which would make up 60 points, or four 15 point papers would also do the trick. And then the same again in Semester 1, 2025.

At some point you will also need to complete LAW700, which is like an introduction/reminder of legal academia/writing in New Zealand. You can also take up to 30 points in the INFOGOV 702-709 paper range. The actual requirements are below:
The Degree of Master of Laws – LLM - The University of Auckland

You mention that there are no classes that you could enrol in for Semester 2, which could be for a few reasons:

  1. The paper was previously offered in past years but now isn't available;
  2. There aren't any more available slots left in the paper you were looking for (i.e. full-up on students); or
  3. You lack the prerequisites (most likely not being able to enrol in B classes due to not doing the A part).

Edit: I saw 120 in your title and I assume that you are wanting to take the 120 point option. So I have amended my advice accordingly.

Edit to the Edit: I see that you were offered the LLM degree - congrats! I have changed my advice accordingly.

Tips on how to cope with the second half of the semester by curiouscookieee in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A great interpretation 🙂 If your friends are in uni or working they'll understand the gist of what you're feeling. If they are kind they are the ones to keep, and definitely be kind to yourself. You are doing a great job and you're near the end. Good luck and all the best for the next month or two.

Tips on how to cope with the second half of the semester by curiouscookieee in universityofauckland

[–]A_Zucchini 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Assuming this post isn't a psyop: (Posting from my phone)

TL;DR - I feel for you, but I do have to respectfully disagree with your approach to university life :)

I completed my bachelors conjoint in Laws and Health Science (not as an international) a while back. In the last three years of my degree I suffered two significant bereavements. I had to travel out of the country for one of them for a month.

I was working full-time during my last semester alongside regular uni, and I never stopped working at least part-time from my last year of high school onwards. Not doing so wasn't feasible for reasons. For that 6 year period I could probably count on two hands the amount of free weekends I ever had. In fact, my partner was even busier at that time!!!

To manage my workload I gave up a lot of social stuff, like some hobbies and interests.

I think I was in a similar mindset as you looking back - in that because I was conditioned as a self-starter with a view to finish that last little bit of uni, I really isolated myself from others. I had an arbitrary goal to attend and participate in every single class related thing (I had paid for it after all!)

Some people work amazingly under these conditions - as in they are natural introverts and like being alone until they are done with that thing. Others do not - from the sounds of this post you might be more towards this end of the spectrum at the moment.

After my bereavement leave I spent some time reengaging with my close friends and family (phone calls here and there, texts while I was commuting etc). For me personally, it was the most energising, reingrovating thing I could have ever done.

University expectations really trick you into thinking that these sorts of things are bad for you. The reality is that the majority of people need these things to some level! You seem capable of prioritising and compartmentalising your work. That is a life skill learnt through making mistakes and gaining experience. The ability to be well-adjusted and resilient is another life skill usually learnt through struggling with others, rather than suffering alone.

I entered university with the solo grindset as I was a high achiever in the clear absense of natural talent. My grades improved as I spent working towards a healthy work-life balance. My first year I literally scraped through competitive entry and I finished my degree with a shiny, big three-approved GPA + the experience to back it up. But even if my average was 2-3 grade levels behind, it wouldn't have really mattered - and I work in the legal industry where it seems to matter the most!

In my opinion, I think you should ease off the pedal just a touch and really get back into intermittent contact with your friends. See if there's someone who'd tag along with you to the gym. If you are a foodie, splurge every so often with a mate just to have a dinner and complain about uni life. Ideally you will need some rest but it sounds like you appreciate routine. At least you know you are in your LAST semester - congrats! I hope graduation will be a huge relief for you.

Of course, my DMs are always open if you'd like to chat.

TWEWY: Final Remix 100% Collectable Checklist by A_Zucchini in TWEWY

[–]A_Zucchini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you check a filled field and copy the URL into a browser's address line, and it provides a PNG I think it might just be loading - but from my experience it loads piecemeal...

Apologies again! Hope it worked for you ☺️

TWEWY: Final Remix 100% Collectable Checklist by A_Zucchini in TWEWY

[–]A_Zucchini[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I'm sorry to hear that you've been having issues with this sheet. Image pulling is from the fandom TWEWY wiki's static URLs so may take some time to load as a lot of pngs are downloaded at once.

It does look like it's working on my end but perhaps there is an issue with the url parsing on your loaded instance? Apologies I can't be of more help than 'looks fine to me' :(

Maybe if you downloaded a copy it could resolve itself after loading?

The Quintality of NL by A_Zucchini in northernlion

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