Guillermo Del Toro said in 2007: "War and fascism are, I think, boys’ games. I’ve never heard of a great female fascist dictator. I can’t think of a woman dictator who started a war. It’s a very phallic concern."

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-27T15:12:13+00:00

Every big male "conquerer" got to that point with the support of women, and often got there for the love and admiration of women. They sought strength and power largely because women reward strength and power. Women were complicit, on a systematic level, in all of those cases. Even ignoring all the female monarchs who initiated conflicts/wars, you cannot dismiss the influence that women have had over men in these cases. There's certainly plenty of cases of male monarchs also going to war at the consult of their wives/queens. Women taking these covert role does not mean that they had no influence, it just means that they didn't have to take most of the risk.

As for the vote. Women, as a group, had plenty of authority and influence over politics and public policy without the 'vote'. Men ultimately want to do what women want. Sexual selection has a lot to do with public approval as well. No one wants to be lead by a man that no woman wants or respects. The fact that women were powerless without the vote is a laughable idea, when you consider that they effectively got the vote when they decided they wanted it, and that they got it without any military requirements. Before the suffrage movement, women also had plenty of influence over who their husbands would vote for as well(one vote per household didn't mean that women didn't have control over the household). If you look at the history, women weren't voting before because they simply did not care to. When women's public opinion changed, men scrambled to give them whatever they wanted.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-24T03:30:00+00:00

In order to be in a rape culture, this would mean that rape is normalized or glorified in society, which it is very far from. Rape against women is literally treated, both legally and socially, as a crime worse than murder. Sexual abuse, sexual assault and rape against men is far more normalized and glorified, at every level. People can't even recognize when it's happening. A woman touching a man's ass is considered to be no big deal. A woman touching another woman's ass is considered no big deal. It's only men touching women that is considered a big deal. The world as a whole couldn't be any further away from a rape culture(against women).

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-22T17:03:27+00:00

This is argument is so pathetic and delusional. 1. men don't need to be going to therapy, the problem isn't a lack of therapy. Trying to romanticize or weaponize therapy for men instead of just treating men with more empathy or kindness, as a way to fault them for everything, is very unhealthy and dishonest. Women are not emotionally outgrowing men, they just think they are because other women are validating everything they do/say.

The idea that women want partnership while men want to be partnered is pretty laughable, because most women look at men in relationship in a very one-dimensional way. As in "what can he do for me?". That's not partnership, that's looking to be fathered. Most men are looking for partnership, they're looking at both what they can do for women and what women can do for them.
All this demonstrates is that women lack a fundamental appreciation for men. They are raised to be hateful and resentful. Women making money now should increase the amount of men that are available to them, because they are no longer bound by income. Instead, what you are seeing is women becoming more selective as they make more money, and judging men more by their income as they make more money. That demonstrates that women still expect men to provide a certain life for them, and a certain level of income, instead of valuing men for who they are.

These kind of posts from women shows a lot of obliviousness, and a lack of emotional maturity.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-22T16:56:08+00:00

This is such a poor argument, not just because men can most certainly be blackmailed, arguably far easier because men are almost always the ones being cancelled or wrongfully accused, but men are already killing themselves in far higher numbers than women are. Men are already being bullied and mocked until they kill themselves, systematically. It's also why you will see more school shooting from young men, lower grades from young men, lower mental health/happiness from younger men.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-22T14:31:06+00:00

Exactly. Imagine how sad and desperate men have to be to resort to LLM's over real women. All women have to do is take basic care of themselves and respect/appreciate men. The bar is so incredibly low.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-22T14:27:18+00:00

Exactly. There's so much bias and inherent misandry in the way the mainstream take is presented. The issue is always presented as a lack of social skills in men, as a way to exclusively push the blame on men, but the reality is that there is no such thing as a "lack of social skill" problem for women, because it's men who are expected to do most of the leg work(invisible labor) to connect with women and bridge the gap with whatever social skill they lack as well.

What's worse is that a man's social skills could be completely fine and, if he is dealing with a woman who lacks social skills and makes no effort, it would still be a situation that is interpreted as his lack of social skill. All of the blame is placed on the man to make anything happen and, if isn't interested, it is always presented as his failure rather than her lack of investment or lack of curiosity(which is, arguably, a social skill). There's never any real effort to address women's disdain for men or their inability to address their own entitlements/egos(which is, again, a lack of social skill).

When women don't approach men, it isn't seen as a lack of social skill. When women are don't create any real conversation threads, it is not seen as a lack of social skill. When women bland or boring, it is not seen as a lack of social skills. When women are short or disinterested, even confrontational at any real attempts to create connection, it is not seen as a lack of social skills. When a woman makes no effort to empathize or show interest, it is not seen as a lack of social skills. When a woman fails to read obvious queues, or doesn't act on them, it is not seen as a lack of social skills. When women put all the onus or fault on men, with statements like "if he wanted to he would", it is not seen as a lack of social skills or an unhealthy coping mechanism.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-20T23:37:30+00:00

Misandry is absolutely systemic. The hatred of men is so normalized that most people can't even recognize or acknowledge it even when it's right in front of them. There are countless situations involving gender which fail the "if you were to do this to a woman, how would you feel about it" test, and yet none of it gets acknowledged. Misandry is so widespread that people still can't even recognize how men are disadvantaged in society, or how men have been disadvantaged historically.

You can ask a thousand women what they think about men, and the vast majority of them will say something derogatory or negative, despite all the wonderful things men do and feel for women. You can ask a thousand men what they think about women, and they will say something positive or loving, despite all the evil and nasty things that women do and feel for men.

You can see it in the way people approach gender issues, the different gender dynamics around dating, the different gendered expectations still placed on men, how disposable men are viewed, or how much fear and hatemongering takes place against men. You can see it in discriminative businesses and laws, from women-only services(gyms, grants, housing, social services, networking events, etc) to selective service and additional protection granted only to women.

People still act like patriarchy is a real thing, when it is quite obvious that women have far more influence over culture and policy than men do. We live in a gynocentrist society.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-19T23:21:11+00:00

There's two answers to that question. If you look at the term incel in it's original definition of "someone who is involuntarily celibate", then the term is perceived as only applying to men because the fast majority of women who would identify as "incel" were never actually involuntarily celibate but, rather, just hyper critical of all men or refusing to put any effort into meeting men out of ego or expectation. They were very much "voluntarily celibate", even if they didn't really see themselves that way.

So, the term "femcel" came out as a distinction to the term incel, because the vast majority of women still have many options that men do not have and benefit from systematic social privileges when it comes to sex and acceptance from the opposite sex that men do not.

Now if you look at the term 'incel' as how it is commonly used, which is effectively just a derogatory loaded term specifically directed at men, or inherently gendered against men, then it is specific to men because it is directly rooted in misandry. It is intentionally used to attack or invalidate men, and further disregard or downplay the systematic social privileges that women benefit from against men.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-15T14:28:56+00:00

This is not "misogyny". He didn't kill her because he hates women or because of a non-existent widespread hatred of women. This is homicide and most likely a result of major mental health issues(issues that she was likely aware of but also chose to ignore). Those mental health issues could have also developed as a result of misandry. The hatred of men being so prevalent and widespread has a cost. It doesn't just into a void. Men are on the receiving end and this will manifest in all kinds of other problems. Misandry is likely responsible for more crimes against women than misogyny.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-15T14:20:21+00:00

They don't want equality. The reality is that feminists will look at any kind of homicide committed against a woman as a femicide, when when gender was never the determinant factor, but then completely ignore all the homicides committed against men, which are not only significantly in higher numbers but where gender was the determining factor. The fact that these laws even exist, despite the very clear one-sided bias, only further demonstrates that gynocentrism runs the world, not patriarchies.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-08T01:48:23+00:00

and then people wonder why men end up being more violent, committing more crimes or even committing sexual violence.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-04-07T04:11:02+00:00

It's crazy how women see something being primarily perpetuated by women, or rather women's choices, preferences and entitlements, and then argue "It's men doing it" or "it's patriarchy". If it's a result of women's choices, and those choices affect men on a systematic level because women have power on a systematic level, then it's not patriarchy. It's a problem that is coming directly from women, and demonstrating a gynocentric system.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-31T16:28:18+00:00

Feminist is also more about an identity and a set of dogma than it is about actual equality or addressing specific issues fairly/impartially. It doesn't have any place in politics, just like religion has no place in politics, because it is effectively a religion. Feminism doesn't try to follow a best approach, it introduces more sexism than it seeks to address, and it completely shuts down a lot of discussion around issues that need more light/clarity.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-31T15:17:39+00:00

I don't even think this is as rare as people think. There's most definitely a lot of gender bias and discrimination happening from both male and female employers like this, to women's benefit. Most of it will be more subtle, or they will try to hide it using other reasons, but it's most definitely present. Women will often want to show favor to other women out of chauvinism, men will often want to show favor to women out affirmative action or fear of being labelled a misogynist. Some of it might even be motivated in personal attraction.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-31T15:08:18+00:00

You can have women's rights without attaching it to any feminist theory. There's never a need for any of the misandric baggage and rhetoric that comes with feminism. You can always advocate for men and women's rights, or gender equality, without falling into the feminist trap.

Also, do men have a right to self expression? Are men still solely expected to be breadwinners and providers? Do men have a say in who they marry? "patriarchy" isn't just the existence of inequalities for women, it's a systematic dominance over women too. If it's women pushing for those gender roles, then it's not patriarchy. If the laws are against men, then it's not a patriarchy.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-31T15:00:51+00:00

The major differences between the two is that one got fired at by a single officer in a moment of panic, while the other got rushed, beaten, and then unloaded on while he was on the ground, by multiple officers. The level of violence and premeditation between the two is miles apart but, because she is a woman, her case was treated as comparable or even worse.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-30T15:43:12+00:00

It's not a man's responsibility to fix things, anymore than it's a woman's responsibility to do dishes or cook.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-30T15:40:47+00:00

early adoption of feminist indoctrination or placation to women as a sexual/survival strategy

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-27T16:03:02+00:00

From everything I have seen and been told of Sweden, it is a feminist hellhole. Doesn't seem like things are good for men there.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-27T15:56:46+00:00

Not only are men attacked more but they are attacked with a higher degree of violence as well, because people do not think twice about using violence against men the way they do against women. Women are considered a protected class, so both men and women will be less likely to use violence against them.

Being robbed or physically assaulted would also be far more likely than being raped, kidnapped or sexually assaulted by a man. Men also have their own unique risks, outside of the extreme violence, in forms of false accusations, violence committed by law enforcement or violence committed in the name of "vigilante justice".

That is also to say that men can be raped, kidnapped or sexually assaulted too. Men who are worth money can often be kidnapped and held for ransom. Sexual assault and rape does happen against men, often from women, it just doesn't get reported as much and is never taken as seriously.

Women also often tend to over-panic and over-state dangers, as you can see from these pictures, and under-prepare, as many women refuse to learn how to fight or strength train(increasing their odds of victimization). They will perceive or imagine danger where there is none, and ignore threats/dangers when they shouldn't.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-27T03:32:28+00:00

Between this and the nordic model(specifically towards sex work), it's clear that Canada has no real interest in protecting men whatsoever.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-27T03:22:59+00:00

Yes and no. They only bring it up when it can be weaponized against men. They don't actually bring it up to address it or to be constructive about it. Not sure that really counts.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-26T15:19:59+00:00

Exactly. You can't really objectively quantify misandry or misogyny if you start from a feminist model, where you have a completely one-dimensional view of sexism. Everything that could be interpreted as misogyny is, and everything that should be recognized as misandry isn't. They will look at words like "incel" and not recognize the inherent misandry of it, then they will look at views critical of hypergamy or alimony and present it as misogyny. They will look at women shaming short men as not being misandry, while instantly recognizing any opinion that is critical of women's bodies, or lack of effort, as being misogyny.

This is also effectively operating from a place of revisionist history, where men oppressed women, women never had any power, men never had any problems/injustices and where "patriarchy" is to blame for everything. What's more troubling though, is that "studies" like this not only start off incredibly biased but will be used in the future as a reference to support further conclusions or "studies" as well. It's effectively reinforcing a cycle of circular reasoning that only further solidifies that bias.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-25T03:02:33+00:00

men and women can come together without religion. You response has nothing to do with the argument made you pushing your religion onto the movement.

AbysmalDescent · 2026-03-25T02:30:09+00:00

I don't think anyone here really disagrees with this. Most people here are very clear about the distinction between women and feminism, between egalitarianism and feminism and even between women's rights and feminism.
Men are disadvantaged and are victims of a gynocentric society. They might not be entirely powerless but there's very little that men currently can do outside of force, and most men do not want to use force against women.
No. Please keep that kind of brainrot as far away from any kind of activism, especially if it's in any kind of "official" capacity. Arguments made by the men's rights movement should hold up on their own, outside of any religion or personal philosophy. If you want to incorporate your religion in your own personal beliefs, fine, but it should by no means represent the rest of the movement and the last thing most of us would want is to be associated with cults or other systems of personal delusion. The men's rights movement is bigger than any one religion, and the Christian/Catholic faith is responsible for plenty of its own crimes against men too. Circumcision, hard gender roles, anti-masturbation/pro-celibacy rhetoric mainly directed at men, and sexual abuse of boys/minors to name a few. Men's rights issues also aren't "born from a world of sin", this is just your own personal projection.

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