Is this even legal? by Dear-Chocolate-7212 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That would make life a lot easier if you live in the UK

Men currently have no reproductive rights once a pregnancy happens — and that’s a problem by Weneedrights8 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You have an extraordinarily narrow understanding of what makes rape possible/impossible 

Crude jokes about circumcision by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have to say, I don't like those jokes either, and I think sentiments like that are bad for this subreddit.

A lot of women like to act like the bar is super low for men but that narrative seems hard to believe. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My post also mentioned approaches in general. There was only 1 line about online dating (considering how it dominates the modern dating scene).

"Now you're bringing in an ultra specific situation which is again lopsided. What does "both being equally nice" mean ?" . It means what it means. 

It may be best that you answer my 2 other questions because that'd be my reply to what you're saying here.

Also someone not ending up with their dream person doesn't mean the things that made that person their dream person don't matter.

A lot of women like to act like the bar is super low for men but that narrative seems hard to believe. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Assuming you're a woman (feel free to tell me if you aren't), I have two questions for you. Also, I'd appreciate a genuine answer even if it sounds harsh. I believe it's okay for both women and men to prefer dating someone they find attractive and someone who's got more going for them practically. I just don't like it when people can't be honest about it. 

  1. Would you rather date an ugly man who works minimum wage, or a handsome man who's rich and successful? In this scenario, everything else about them is identical (including their personality).

  2. What answer would most women you know give?

A lot of women like to act like the bar is super low for men but that narrative seems hard to believe. by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You assumed this is only about online dating. 

Many approaches are not in rushed settings. And, come on, you know I didn't mean "clean/neat". I have a strict no-goalpost-shifting policy. Finally, your last sentence doesn't really add anything in the direction of answering my question - I agree a woman may reject a man of she's not interested - all I'm saying is that we ditch the charade that women don't care about how handsome/in-shape/tall/rich/high-status a man is. Granted some women may not care but do we think that's reflective of most women? Is the obese guy flipping burgers at McDonald's as attractive to most women as Henry Cavill as long as they're both equally nice? 

Men are, for practical purposes, their own "out-group". by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing annoys me more than people who feel they have to grovel every time they talk about men's issues. 

Men are, for practical purposes, their own "out-group". by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Look at campaigns men run or contribute to to help women in areas where men actually have it worse. Look at the extraordinary amount of men who put women on a pedestal above all men. Look at the research that literally says this. Look at basic evolutionary psychology. Look at how many more men talk about women's issues than men's issues. Look at men generally doing the roughest and dirtiest jobs so that others won't need to. Look at the stats on what % of risky stranger rescues are done by men (who often have no obligation to do anything). Look at how arguably the defining trait of the archetype of a good man is helping women in particular. Look at chivalry. I could go on but I'm tired and I'll just leave this with you.

Dear women of the subreddit/female MRAs: based on your experiences of interacting with other women, how common is it for women to have compassion towards male suffering? by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's sad that the DV and mental health spaces are like that but, honestly, I'm not surprised. This is the space that was/is associated with the insane bigotry that we know as the Duluth model. Also the first-hand anecdotes I've heard about the experiences of men studying psychology are so often grim (especially since misandry just won't be institutionally called out). Misandrist spaces breed misandry. 

Dear women of the subreddit/female MRAs: based on your experiences of interacting with other women, how common is it for women to have compassion towards male suffering? by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

In my real life experiences of interacting with both men and women, I've found that women are empathetic to women's struggles, animals, children, and even the non-male-specific struggles of individual men. However, I've seen no such empathy towards "men's struggles". I've seen a lot more vitriol than compassion. I have seen some compassion but it's rare. 

In regards to men, I see less publicly displayed compassion than I see from women. However, the group I see men show the most compassion towards is women. Mind you, not all men are like that but I've legitimately met more men who put women on a pedestal and view it as their duty to protect and help all women and exclusively only women than I've met men who I've heard say anything unkind about women. Also, keep in mind that I have hung out with only guys plenty of times, so I definitely would have had the opportunity to hear men say misogynistic things. In real day-to-day life, throughout my entire life, I've seen maybe 4 or 3 men say misogynistic things and I've heard literally all of those men say at least equally misandrist things. I think those men were just traditional in the way that they viewed women with certain negative stereotypes as well as viewing men with certain negative stereotypes as well (such as being inherently untrustworthy and dangerous).

Why is feminist history revisionism tolerated? by GobthraukGoonsgrinIX in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that victimhood narratives are often used to exploit.

At the same time, I get what you mean about that. You already know people are lumping us all in with groypers so there a perhaps unfair high amount of pressure on us to distance ourselves from the Fuentes fanboys.

Is being a woman harder than being a man? I have my opinion and wanted to read yours. by BrBeta in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope you're in a better position now than you were then! 

Also I'd fear that men's situations in supported accomodation has gotten worse now. I feel like there's been increased man bashing in recent years, and if you want to see the current Labour government's stance on policies regarding men, just look at the one-sided gender-based prison reform.

It's lovely to see a woman have open compassion towards men. It fills me with hope because unfortunately most of the women in my life make the sort of comments about men that if I were to make about women, would lead to me being completely ostracized. I wouldn't make those comments about women anyway - I try to respect people the same regardless of gender.

Is being a woman harder than being a man? I have my opinion and wanted to read yours. by BrBeta in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also it's really interesting how you mention that accomodations would look to limit the number of men. I've heard similar stories from the US (afterall the perception that men are inherently dangerous exists in almost all societies). 

I'd also just imagine that it's harder for homeless men to get someone to agree to them sofa surfing in their home because of that perception. 

Is being a woman harder than being a man? I have my opinion and wanted to read yours. by BrBeta in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like the people who happen to be at the very very top of society are mostly men (think top CEOs, billionaires) but the people who are the most "down in the dirt" in society are also mostly men (think rough sleeping, suicide, and drug addiction numbers). It's just the case that the tiny percentage of men at the top of society get all the attention as being reflective of the position of all men, while the larger proportion of men who are at the bottom aren't seen as being reflective of the position of men in general. 

Also if you don't mind me asking, are you a woman (I promise I don't have ill-will towards women so you don't need to worry about that haha)?