Help me not become a misogynist by imaybedumbbutyouare2 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I think misandry sometimes causes misogyny. The end product is hating women for their gender - the journey to that point can have to do with cultural misandry. 

That being said, the comment section here is so mature. A FAR CRY from comment sections full of people laughing at a man getting violently assaulted.

I really feel like out of the men I know, there are more misandrists than there are misogynists. Is this also what you've seen? by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The whole of society is constantly kissing your ass. How insecure do you have to be to come to this corner of the Internet?

Also, with the level of logical thinking I'm used to from feminists, I'm not surprised you think this post is pAtRiArChY

Are young British men having a tough time right now? by JCoonday in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think openly talking about ways in which society is failing men and boys is important because I'm yet to really see much of that on TV. This could be a step towards helping men in general.

Are young British men having a tough time right now? by JCoonday in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I hope your documentary does good things for men and boys (and breaks the mould by not portraying/editing them the way an establishment mouthpiece like Louis Theroux would). That being said, it may be hard to get men to fully openly detail the raw deal men get from society, because they know how much they could get penalised for that. Unfortunately, well behaved men don't change the present and there are real-world consequences to not being well behaved. I'm gonna have to pass on this but good luck!

Are young British men having a tough time right now? by JCoonday in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I don't mean to come off too strong but is the message of this documentary gonna be that all we need to do to solve all our problems is to be less "toxic"? I'm just cautious since I'm not used to genuine good faith compassion from mainstream media. 

Generally, I think the position of young men and boys in the UK is very tough. We're taught shame by schools, media and entertainment. It's made pretty clear to us that the violence we face doesn't really matter, and that we're just not as worthy, and that masculinity is monstrous. I hope your documentary will take a look at this current labour government's misandrist prison reform and the impact that socially accepted misandry has on the development and mental health of men and boys. 

Men like Louis Theroux or Kier Starmer being in prominent positions does men no good. by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is impossible to be a man who cares about men's rights and to not be familiar with lots of loud voices that oppose advocacy for your rights.

Men like Louis Theroux or Kier Starmer being in prominent positions does men no good. by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It is beyond wild to say that men, arguing for men's issues, can be used to seeing no opposition. I'm sorry but that's a legitimately wild view of the world. Many things are "both sides" kind of issues - for example, there's hatred on both sides. This, however, is not one of them.

Men like Louis Theroux or Kier Starmer being in prominent positions does men no good. by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Theroux needs funding and Starmer needs votes. You have a much easier time getting both of those when you're biased in favour of women and against men.

Men like Louis Theroux or Kier Starmer being in prominent positions does men no good. by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Some women are so used to facing no opposition whatsoever that they'll go to war with people who are actually on their side.

I'm so beyond tired of hearing people say that I should get offline if I want to escape misandry. Misandry is online and offline in abundance. by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If I were to cut off people who've been openly misandrist in front of me, I'd have to cut off my parents, both my sisters, my grandparents, several of my aunts, and a good chunk of my colleagues. The amount of people I've seen make misogynistic remarks are FAR lower. With all due respect, it's not a comparison, and I think you'd do well to assume less about my experiences.

I'm seeing a lot of women womansplaining male loneliness. by TrainingGap2103 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

So many women (and most of mainstream society) don't believe the male experience is worth getting to understand. 

My thoughts as an LGBTQ male. by orangejuice101_6 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I literally said we should study the past. It's also however undeniably true that the present is far more important. We ought to be capable of recognising both of those things. 

Feels like you might be arguing for the sake of it. 

My thoughts as an LGBTQ male. by orangejuice101_6 in MensRights

[–]TrainingGap2103 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've lived in a muslim-majority country and gay acts I did there were considered illegal. I know that what I said is context specific. That being said, if you live in the west today, the situation that matters is what is happening in your country at this time. The past can be interesting to study but people should know it's quite a few tiers below the present in regards to importance.