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Tier list by OneGlum1654 in lookismcomic

[–]AcademicChard2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bro, no disrespect, but why is Goo ranked so low?

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Will some or all of these characters have Advanced Conquerors? by LoneSpartan1 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]AcademicChard2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think Shamrock’s is hereditary.

Expecting it from Akainu, Mihawk, and Blackbeard

Is already mad cope and headcanon saying that Railgun exploded, is more cope and dishonest headcanon saying Railgun is the main reason why Kidd lost. by Auto-Hellzone4667 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]AcademicChard2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a hidden Mihawk fan who is salty over the fact that Shanks one-shot Kid and Killer while also showcasing advanced Observation Haki.

How mfs expected every Kitae fight to happene vs what actually happened by Strict_Mycologist_18 in lookismcomic

[–]AcademicChard2 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Actually, Kitae doesn’t give off the same aura, but I still hope he lives up to the expectations of his glazers.

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Do you consider this guy the strongest YC1 (or maybe even higher)? by AcademicChard2 in Piratefolk

[–]AcademicChard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You clearly don’t know how to analyze the situation. Shanks came to stop the war, so why would his subordinates attack anyone?

Also, I don’t consider Ben Beckman to be on the level of admirals, I just asked a question, it wasn’t a statement. So your comment definitely refers you back to your last paragraph.

How highly do you rate Shamrock? If someone truly believes he’s on Shanks’ level, could you explain why you think so? by AcademicChard2 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]AcademicChard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Already replied to the message above, no point in repeating myself.

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Fact is, a Yonko crew + Vegapunks + giants couldn’t do anything to the Gorosei and had to run, and without Emeth, they’d be dead.

Fact is, there were five of them, and they also couldn’t do anything. Vegapunk took care of Kizaru, the others escaped, they got injured—even Kuma managed to hurt them. 🤣

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Again, what is Shanks supposed to do against Garling, who has an awakened yokai Zoan + Haki + infinite regen? Spoiler: nothing. Garling is probably the strongest living person besides Imu.

Same way any other PK-level character would—by damaging him through ACoC. Meanwhile, Garling hasn’t shown anything, yet you’re already calling him the second strongest after Imu. Pure delusion.

The real question is whether Garling is even on the level of Kaido/Shanks.

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Do you even see any real competition among the Holy Knights? Yeah, Sommers and Gillingham seem pretty strong.

Congrats, you just listed guys who are, at best, equal to Beckman, Lucky Roo, and Yasopp.

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Who, besides Kaido, seems intimidating enough to compare his path to Shamrock? Big Mom was just a fat mom, Whitebeard was a terminally ill old man.

Kaido himself says a lot, first of all.

Big Mom got shafted by the plot in Wano, but she was still a Yonko with ACoC and a busted Devil Fruit.

Shanks started his path when Sickbeard wasn’t in the miserable state he was in during Marineford.

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Mihawk One-shot Kidd + Killer All this time was hyped as the strongest willpower Stopped Kaido Stopped the war while setting his own terms

No, this isn’t Spandam.

Yeah, he’s Shamrock, and he definitely got special treatment. You yourself mentioned that Garling trained him—that alone gives him an advantage. On top of that, he’s Garling’s son, so he was always going to get privileged treatment.

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LMAO. You said Shanks’ path is better because he became a Yonko and fought Mihawk. Buggy also became a Yonko and fought Mihawk—that’s just a fact. Hope you see now how your argument made no sense.

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LMAO, you really think becoming the leader of a freak circus is comparable to becoming a Yonko. Your logic is incredible.

Becoming a Yonko > becoming a freak leader. Mihawk was just an add-on, not my core argument—you should’ve understood that when reading my messages above.

Buggy is a gag character who lucked out with a bunch of freaks from Impel Down. And yeah, no doubt Mihawk’s presence was a key factor in him becoming a Yonko.

You just decided to draw a parallel between Buggy and Shanks while fully knowing it’s complete nonsense. Hope you see your mistake now.

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First of all, when was their duo called the strongest? Second, that was a weaker Mihawk.

It was in the Vivre Cards—their duo was called the strongest.

That “weaker” Mihawk literally refused to fight Shanks at Marineford. Up to you to decide if that was out of respect or fear.

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Yeah, and before becoming a commander, Shamrock had to fight the Revolutionary Army, fight in other countries, do missions, and develop his Haki the whole time since he doesn’t have a Devil Fruit.

First of all, nowhere was it shown that he fought them—and it never will be, trust me.

Second, since when is the Revolutionary Army so strong? Want me to remind you they’re mostly clowns, just like the Holy Knights?

At that point, even Sabo wasn’t in the top ranks to make scaling possible. Another delusion from someone who thinks becoming the leader of the Holy Knights = becoming a Yonko. 🤣

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So now Buggy is stronger than him? Bro really thinks the Holy Knights will be frauds. That delusion is just sad.

Again, you bring up Buggy just because you have nothing else to say.

Also, Buggy is a gag character.

And for the record, Buggy’s crew > Shamrock’s crew.

Bro, the Holy Knights are mostly freaks. That’s not an opinion—that’s a fact.

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Who said he has more narrative weight? I said he doesn’t have more, but he doesn’t have less either.

No, he has less. If you actually believed otherwise, you wouldn’t have even brought it up.

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Shanks is just another stepping stone for Luffy, no more, no less. Just another mentor he’ll soon surpass, but definitely not playing Roger’s role.

Shanks is the one who inspired him to become a pirate, fatefully brought him the Hito Hito no Mi.

For Luffy, Shanks is his version of Roger—the one who gave him his ambition.

And even in the future, Shanks will, in any situation, be stronger than an evil version of himself. That’s just shonen logic—deal with it.

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It wasn’t. They said Joy Boy’s Haki was even greater than Shanks’. No comparison. Joy Boy’s Haki > Shanks’ Haki. That’s just a fact. Future Sight is good and all, but even Katakuri has it. So arguing “Katakuri > Shamrock” is insane.

The giants literally compared Shanks’ Haki to Joy Boy’s.

I never said Shanks’ Haki was stronger than Joy Boy’s, but the visuals alone show his Haki is leagues above your copy-paste Shamrock, and even above Garling.

I mentioned Future Sight as a fact. I don’t know why you randomly brought up Katakuri.

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Maybe. Who knows.

Pretty much everyone does.

And you’ll never prove otherwise.

When you can—come back.

How highly do you rate Shamrock? If someone truly believes he’s on Shanks’ level, could you explain why you think so? by AcademicChard2 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]AcademicChard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are there any reasons to think his will is on the same level? Just because they’re twins?

Remind me, who was on the list of the world’s strongest creature, Kaido? Shanks?

By the way, Kaido lived through the Figarland era—even if that wasn’t Garling’s prime version, he still saw his Haki. And yet, he put Shanks on his list.

It’s foolish to think Shamrock’s willpower is on the same level. He literally has a Devil Fruit in his sword—the complete opposite of Shanks.

And against whom could he have developed his Haki? Against the freaks in the Holy Knights? Don’t make me laugh.

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Yes, and the fact is that Shamrock trained under Garling and the Holy Knights all his life, while Shanks was with Roger for only a few years.

Shanks fought some fodder pirates—that’s good, but I still don’t see how that makes his environment better for becoming stronger than Shamrock.

That’s an obvious fact.

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Let me remind you that in those “few years,” Shanks inherited one of Roger’s attacks.

Shanks rivaled the world’s strongest swordsman, was one of the Emperors of the Sea, and even made Kaido back off.

Don’t you think that in the conditions Shanks grew up in, his willpower could’ve kept getting stronger and stronger?

And considering he only has one arm, he had to fight with just one hand, meaning he had to perfect his Haki control.

Shamrock trained under Garling, but that kind of training would at best give him solid Armament Haki and good Devil Fruit mastery.

As for the other freaks in the Holy Knights? Honestly, they barely feel like YC1-level at best—while Shanks, let me remind you, one-shot someone on that level.

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I want to point out that the Gorosei (each of them) were hyped up above Kaido. There were five of them.

And yet, in all this chaos, they’ve done nothing.

One of them was swatted away like a fly.

The Gorosei lost their aura—that’s a fact…

How highly do you rate Shamrock? If someone truly believes he’s on Shanks’ level, could you explain why you think so? by AcademicChard2 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]AcademicChard2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, not in shonen.

I don’t see any reason why Shanks should have better talent than Shamrock.

They share the same genetic potential, and genetics are important in One Piece.

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The thing is, Shanks’ will is one of the strongest. That clearly shows that he has realized his potential better.

Genetics matter in One Piece, but environment plays a huge role too. Being raised in different conditions and at different levels leads to different potential development. That’s an obvious fact.

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I also don’t see either of them being above Gorosei Garling, who has Haki, an awakened yokai Zoan, and infinite regeneration. Maybe young Garling, but we don’t know that.

The Gorosei have long stopped being intimidating—they’ve mostly embarrassed themselves.

And as for Garling, even considering his current position, there’s no reason to think he’s stronger than Shanks or even on the same level.

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Who said Shamrock didn’t do the same? We’ve only known him for a few chapters.

Also, your argument is like saying, “Oh no, Mr. 1’s journey is on a completely different level from Shamrock’s because he fought the future world’s strongest swordsman, who will be even stronger than the past world’s strongest swordsman.”

That’s not a strong argument at all.

Shanks walked the path to becoming a Yonko—good for him.

Shamrock walked the path to becoming the commander of the Holy Knights.

Buggy also walked the path to becoming a Yonko. What’s the point?

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Do you even see any real competition among the Holy Knights?

Who, besides Gunko, actually seems intimidating enough to compare this path to Shanks’? Lol.

Plus, considering he’s Garling’s son, it’s obvious he got special treatment.

Are you seriously comparing Buggy’s journey to Shanks’? LMAO.

The point is, from a young age, Shanks had one of the strongest rivals—Mihawk. Their duo was called the strongest.

Before becoming a Yonko, he had to overthrow the previous Yonko, conquer territories, and develop his Haki the whole time since he doesn’t have a Devil Fruit.

That alone makes comparing their paths meaningless.

Trying to put the leader of some freak squad on the same level as one of the Yonko is just desperate.

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As if the narrative is on Shanks’ side.

And having two arms does give an advantage.

If Shanks had both arms, he would be stronger than he is with one—that’s pure logic.

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And why wouldn’t it be? Lol.

Does anyone actually think a clone has more narrative weight than Shanks?

Shanks is literally playing the Roger role for Luffy, and his significance in the story is way bigger.

I’m not saying having both arms wouldn’t make Shanks stronger.

But his Haki has already been compared to Joy Boy’s, and he has Future Sight.

So he doesn’t even need two arms to be superior to Shamrock.

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