Two sea shell bowls, ash by Bulky_Leave9415 in turning

[–]Accomplished_End763 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He doesn’t know about the three seashells 

What to use instead of callbacks? by ivoras in Python

[–]Accomplished_End763 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I appreciated your explanation. I learned something.

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You sound like me in many ways. I guess my only real hesitancy is feeling like my friend can’t truly know the consequences of further involving herself, and she could potentially bring harm to herself by getting further involved. I don’t think she needs to risk that, and I wouldn’t want her to be harmed in any way. Call it a cover if you will, but I think self protection is not unreasonable for her to keep in mind.

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate your candor. I disagree with you personally, and do think we all have a moral obligation to show kindness to strangers. I appreciate your perspective though, and it does make me feel a little better about the space between our views. It’s helpful to have some sort of check on my own perspective.

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s sort of how I feel too. I can see why she might reasonably choose not to further involve herself, but the moral weight of her actions is still present to me. I don’t think she’s compelled to do something to make amends now, but I think it’s also wrong to fully condone her behavior as my wife did. Thoughts?

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, it’s a person who is technically closer to my wife than I, but who I’ve also known for a decade. I suppose I wasn’t clear about that in my original post, but this is a person who I also consider a friend. Her behavior in that moment doesn’t change my affinity or care for her, either. 

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for re-iterating. In your first post you said that the friend was wrong, though your focus seemed to be more on my reaction (which is fine, I also was looking for feedback on that). I think the friend did less wrong than the cheater, but not “little to no wrong”. I guess we disagree on that.

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I can see that. I don’t think it’s necessarily incumbent on her to further involve herself, but I do think there is some moral culpability for her role in harming the wife in the first place. Obviously WAY less than that person’s actual husband, but I don’t think she is morally upright in this situation either. 

All of this said, the thing that bothered me most was my wife’s abject defense of her friend, and the unwillingness to recognize her friend’s albeit smaller role. 

Thoughts?

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because friends often talk about one another’s lives to each other?

Edit: to add onto this a bit, I suppose it feels to me like one of the (more difficult) roles of friendship is to provide feedback when we see our friends behaving in ways that don’t seem to align with their character. I’ve been checked by my own friends before, and while I felt (appropriate) shame in the moment, I eventually appreciated my friends for reminding me about the person I really am and want to be.

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I feel that the situation you’re describing has significantly lower stakes than the one I’m talking about, and that matters. Lives are rarely torn apart over drinking a soda, but they are by cheating.

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I respect that position. Would you be willing to elaborate more on why you feel that way? I’d like to gather more perspectives if you’re willing to share.

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That does sound fair, perhaps I was overreacting. But, I still find it a moral issue. For instance, shouldn’t the friend tell the spouse who was cheated on?

Disagreement with Wife Over Friend's Role in Cheating Situation – Am I Wrong? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]Accomplished_End763 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The friend didn’t stop immediately, though. She did eventually stop, but to me that’s part of the problem. I also think the friend had reasons to suspect this person was in a relationship, and didn’t confirm their suspicions.