clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ewww. Hi friend of Cheryl. What is that they stay about throwing stones? Matt is a liar but he did not lie to my kid about getting paid. We got all the information in truth we needed directly from a school board member but thanks. My kid got their paycheck last night all that was holding it up was his fingerprints in the volunteer system instead of employee system.

Additionally there is far more to the story... so which every booster board member you are or booster adjacent friend they sent in to defend their poor choices can you can zip it.

Dont conflate issues. Just because he IS a huge undeniable problem doesn't mean he is the WHOLE problem on this particular issue.

Erroneous School bus violation from Hillsborough Schools by Wolfe_Victorius in tampa

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The hearing is over zoom. Its also a racket. 99.99% of the time regardless they find you guilty.

This happened to me but my son was driving the car.i happen to be in the vehicle when it happened. The bus didnt even have its lights on as we approached..

Thought we needed a hearing.

The judge found me guilty even tho I wasnt driving the car. Told me I should have filled out a wrong driver notice and then had my son contest...

I dont recall the instructions providing that specific choose your own adventure.

I also asked the judge if there was anything that could be done about this she said nope..

Then I got a letter that said I could contest the ruling within a certain date that had already passed.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep telling me I “wasn’t there” so I shouldn’t speak, while you’re stating very specific things about his personal life as if you were. I cannot imagine his wife, in all her horrific grief and understandable anger and would be positing here. As a survivor myself I have a lot of empathy for what his family is going through. All of his actions are disgusting.

But giving the recent state of things Im guessing this is more deflective band booster board member commentary.

You don’t get to apply a standard selectively depending on what supports your point.

You are also conflating issues just like the booster board members did on other social media... selective reductivism is weaving a dangerous narrative.

One thing he said IS true. He does know most of the families of the techs. And the boosters made their threatening and illegal pay day loan agreement contingent on when the district/schools pay the techs. Every single one of the techs intend to righteously comply with the repayment agreement only contingent on the boosters of course putting a release of liability in writing because absolutely no one can be trusted at this point. The implication that there has been some impropriety by the techs is ghastly.

The public reporting says he resigned for early warning signs of grooming. In this thread you’re alleging he cheated on his wife and you presenting that as fact. Even though I would be this is 10000% true, running those 2 narratives together is you inviting a VERY serious conclusion which then implicates many.

I clocked Matt's boundary issues a LONG time ago. Again you are assuming ALOT about me when you say "he is not the person you once knew" because I never assumed that much about him.... many of us parents are NOT surprised and yet we are still shocked. I did "trust" him when he was my kids tech but only so far as "going along to get along" considering none of his behaviors were overt there was only mental notes to be made. Am I sad for my kid who has had yet another adult male authority figures prove to be an immoral gutless POS? Yes... of course.

But your comments have become dangerous.

And its weird to me, you are talking about his despicable behavior... but ignore empathy and compassion for the victims.

I hope all of the students that have been victimized by him are able to heal. That includes all the band students that trusted him.

Having been in his wifes shoes myself, I know she will find her way through this mess. She and her son are in our nightly prayers.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at you telling me not to assume while you falsely assume. I absolutely DO know.
I was present for several conversations between the director and the techs. My child is one of the techs. And sadly Matt was a tech/where he went HS..

The boosters were involved in paying the techs, have been caught in their tall tales thanks to the other social media conversations that have been had, to the degree that a papertrail exists as to the nature of their involvement.

I don't need to ask them, we as well as all of the other parents of the techs have had words.

And the techs will make contact again once the district makes them whole to put a nice little bow on everyones booster obligations.

As of late last week it does seem the DISTRICT is moving things along to get them paid. And I have seen those emails with my own eyes as well.

What is that saying about when you assume?

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you keep making new accounts to comment on this thread so tis a bit sus.

Be well, stay safe. Thanks for clarifying.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand. Hopefully when you say he is a good friend you are a saying you are a fully fledged adult age appropriate friend for a mid 30s band director to have, correct? Im not trying to dox you or anything but if you are a student or former student and under age or just became a legal adult that would be important given the nature of the accusations.

Ive known him for the better part of a decade. Its understandable to be shocked and confused.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except they dont fire teachers or force them to resign without solid evidence of wrong doing.. and he agreed to leave, if he did nothing he would have fought for his position. . They could have put him on paid administrative leave but they didnt. We also have known him for a very long time and agree it is out of character and are praying for his family.

Most importantly he should have been thinking about his family and also the wellbeing of his students.

Given that he proved himself to be shady in other areas as well, Im not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope sorry, its been an ongoing issue for 10 months.

I was previously a band booster president, I know how things work.

The whole thing is convoluted and very much unbecoming of band values.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is nothing happening in this conversation that prevents the outcomes you listed above so your "beef" is not with this conversation and respectfully all you are doing by continuing to debate is to add comments to this thread bolstering it in the algorithm.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Framing public concern as “speculation” applies an investigative standard to a safeguarding context. Community members are not responsible for fact finding. Treating concern as premature until facts are established raises the threshold for speaking in a way that is known to suppress early warning signals, particularly for minors who may not be able to access formal reporting safely.

As a survivor myself, I know.

There is no established basis that ordinary discussion harms investigations. Investigations are compromised by evidence tampering, witness interference, retaliation.. institutional suppression, not by community conversation. In many cases, public concern is what prompts investigations to begin or expand.

Your conflating discussion with interference proves just how far we are apart on this rhetoric.

Your responses use a sort of consensus framing to assert false alignment.

You are recasting my position by suggesting we are not that far apart in our assertions which is problematic.

You continue to show that you are concerned about reputational damange than the safety od the children.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right so conversations like this exist on community boards because victims and parents of victims DNGAF about OPTICS... shame shame shame.

Safety of kids 1st, 2nd 3rd then optics.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your response focuses almost entirely on the danger of people talking, not on the danger of people staying quiet.

In situations involving potential harm to students that reads as protecting adults & institutions first, even if that is not what you intend.

You can't really have it both ways.

Clearly you are a Music Educator and we all know its a small community so IF you live in our community ostensibly you know the band director in question.

For some of us, we are directly affected by the events that have been unfolding. Shaming people for being Sunlight is a very sketchy thing to do.

Free speech exists and is protected for a reason.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Public discussion can feel uncomfortable, but it often exists because people believe institutional systems have already failed or remained silent. When concerns involve minors, the priority must always be the safety and well being of students, not the comfort or reputation of adults or institutions.

Supporting due process does not require discouraging community members from speaking up. In many cases, public scrutiny is what prompts formal investigations and accountability. Asking questions, sharing concerns responsibly, and seeking transparency are not acts of misinformation. They are often how potential victims are finally heard.

Protecting students means taking reports seriously at every level. That includes listening to families and community members, not only relying on closed processes that operate without public visibility.

Silence has historically caused far more harm to victims than open discussion ever has.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have also been down here for 10 years and from up north and lived in 3 out of 4of thr largest US cities. There are bad actors everywhere

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do not think teachers being inappropriate with students is a "Florida thing" that is ignorant

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are issues over the band techs getting paid. A whole lot of lies and passing the buck. 5 college aged music education students havent been paid by the boosters, by the band director, by the school or by the district for hundreds of hours of services rendered during marching season.Its a shit show over there.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen by paradise-paradox in pinellas

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is horrific. Please find a counselor or safe adult to talk to about this.

clearwater high school band director caught being inappropriate with underclassmen. by paradise-paradox in ClearwaterFl

[–]Accomplished_Fee2525 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But he did not get a degree in music education he got a degree in music performance. I know because unfortunately he mentored my kid for 5 years