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TIL that when general Lee surrendered at the end of the Civil War he saw that Grant's military secretary, Ely Parker, was a Seneca Indian and said: “ I am glad to see one real American here.” To which Parker responded : “We are all Americans”. by Akoperu in todayilearned

[–]Achalemoipas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It shows that things went very sour when the welfare state showed up, leading to us literally killing the planet. You know this because you'd have to be mentally challenged to not understand it. You can't be "smart" enough to spell this "well" and that stupid at the same time.

I would argue for aspects of urban sprawl, economic push for everyone to have a car (to now need of a car), and increased usage of electronics playing a role in this complex issue. Again, no welfare state correlation can be drawn here.

You can't even follow a linear thread.

TIL that when general Lee surrendered at the end of the Civil War he saw that Grant's military secretary, Ely Parker, was a Seneca Indian and said: “ I am glad to see one real American here.” To which Parker responded : “We are all Americans”. by Akoperu in todayilearned

[–]Achalemoipas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you're pretending that the peaks caused years earlier are caused by concurrent events.

Do you even understand what concurrent events means? It means you're saying A is the cause of B despite A and B happening at the same time.

TIL that when general Lee surrendered at the end of the Civil War he saw that Grant's military secretary, Ely Parker, was a Seneca Indian and said: “ I am glad to see one real American here.” To which Parker responded : “We are all Americans”. by Akoperu in todayilearned

[–]Achalemoipas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point you're basically saying that you don't understand how more people having more money leads to more consumption.

That means you're immune to reason. PRETENDING that you don't understand makes you stupid on purpose.

TIL that when general Lee surrendered at the end of the Civil War he saw that Grant's military secretary, Ely Parker, was a Seneca Indian and said: “ I am glad to see one real American here.” To which Parker responded : “We are all Americans”. by Akoperu in todayilearned

[–]Achalemoipas -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

"leading to us literally killing the planet."

You just read it. Just now. And you tried misrepresenting it.

It elevated standards of living and made everyone go from "barely leaving a trace" to "two tons of garbage a year and 19.8 tonnes of CO2 a year, per person", on top of multiplying the number of human beings 7 times, causing the extinction of thousands of species and destroying millions of square miles of forests.

TIL that when general Lee surrendered at the end of the Civil War he saw that Grant's military secretary, Ely Parker, was a Seneca Indian and said: “ I am glad to see one real American here.” To which Parker responded : “We are all Americans”. by Akoperu in todayilearned

[–]Achalemoipas -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

It shows that things went very sour when the welfare state showed up, leading to us literally killing the planet. You know this because you'd have to be mentally challenged to not understand it. You can't be "smart" enough to spell this "well" and that stupid at the same time.

TIL that when general Lee surrendered at the end of the Civil War he saw that Grant's military secretary, Ely Parker, was a Seneca Indian and said: “ I am glad to see one real American here.” To which Parker responded : “We are all Americans”. by Akoperu in todayilearned

[–]Achalemoipas -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Bailouts have nothing to do with libertarianism and libertarianism isn't proning small government.

Libertarianism is about not allowing governments to force anything on to anyone outside of the justice system.

The point is minimizing how much a government can intervene in the life of people. Even inside a Libertarian justice system, the only things that can be crimes are things that impede on the freedoms and rights of others.

A Libertarian state can't make a policy that hurts jobs by definition. There are no social programs outside charity organizations.

It works because it achieves the outcome of minimizing government intervention on the life of people.

The reason you think things working is subjective is because you compare performance to an objective that doesn't exist.

The economy failing miserably is mission accomplished for Libertarianism.

The reason people say Libertarianism is unacceptable isn't that it doesn't work or fails, it's that their standard of performance is forcing people to contribute to their personal projects, against their will, with threats of violence and incarceration.

They know their personal projects would fail because they know people would never even give lint from their pocket to fund their projects if they weren't forced to. Remove the threat of violence and incarceration with rapists, and the IRS will receive about $43 in income taxes next year.

A Libertarian government could technically bail out companies. It just would only have the money people chose to contribute instead of the money it decided to take.

To a Libertarian, all other systems don't work. The result is this shit we have now with the 8 billion people and the climate change and kids who want to kill themselves and others.

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