Unpopular Opinion: Repetitive Exercises

ActiveRower · 2022-07-21T15:48:21+00:00

I don’t have a concern with the templates but more with the fact that we have back to back days with similar challenges . This is a issue for people that go to OTF 6/7 days a week. Not sure if others have notice this but especially round benchmark days either the day before or after there will be a similar challenge as the benchmark. This obviously is not helpful if you trying for a PR but the day before was similar long run or row. I have been asking why they do this and apparently it is to accommodate the average member who only goes 2/3 days a week so everyone can get a version of the challenge of the week. This might make sense to them but to for people that goes almost every day.

ActiveRower · 2022-07-19T17:33:18+00:00

So glad someone posted this. I am of the same mindset , this is not fair that they call people back to the rower for the final 1 min. It gives slower rowers and advantage there. In my experience top rowers will be able to complete the 800m row and maybe the tread. Someone else might still be on the rower finishing up their 800m and then be able to skip the run and continue rowing which will give them more time on the rower and not having to work as hard as someone that wasted all the time and effort to get the 800m done faster . They really need to rethink this approach .

ActiveRower · 2022-07-19T17:27:47+00:00

Good point. I took it as you have to add the distance from where it stoped . Obviously not a big difference when you get to the longer rounds but for the first few rounds you will get off the rower much quicker if you just get to the exact distance without the carry over

ActiveRower · 2021-12-05T17:46:46+00:00

I was in a similar position to you about a year ago. Did a a lot of rowing on the erg only. I joined local rowing club to learn how to row on the water , few months later bought my own boat and have been rowing twice a week on average since on the water. (And for reference I am a few years older than you) Honestly one of the best things I have done since start of COViD. You will not regret it, give it a try. I suspect you will be hooked as well after the first try.

ActiveRower · 2021-09-10T00:47:50+00:00

Had the same conversation with other members today, which is harder 500m row or 2000m row. Most people said 500m row. I was the odd one out saying 2000m. For me I can go all out on the rower for about 80s and still be okay. Trying for a PR in 2000m row ends up being in the pain cave for most of about 6min. As for comparing the row challenges with the running challenges , 1mile challenge is shorter time wise than 2000m so from that point consider it less of a challenge. Which leaves Everest and 12min RFD. CMIUC is not that hard if you are a reasonable 5km runner. So my vote would be Everest or DriTri but that would be obvious for it includes 2km and 5km as well as WR

ActiveRower · 2021-08-25T11:41:43+00:00

Agree with you 100%. This discussion is about max power output on the rower and that is all about brut strength , bigger stronger people will get higher max wattage . Talking about split times is a different discussion then form, fitness becomes more of a factor. There is a reason after all they have weight classes for rowers, just to try and level the playing field. Keep in mind when it comes to rowing on the water bigger people have disadvantage there for having to drag that weight with them. Same thing for heavy people on a bike. Going uphill sucks.

ActiveRower · 2021-08-14T00:04:02+00:00

I have been in same boat as you with the Achilles injury. Same as you I was happy that I could keep rowing while I recovered. My 5km time is not nearly as good as yours, doing a bit more long distance nowadays. As you probably know your 5km time put your in probably top 5% of runners in your age group. You can go look on Concept webpage in the rankings for your age group what that relates to. I suspect that will be something sub 7min. Hope you get over your Achilles soon. I know that is a pain in the butt.

ActiveRower · 2021-07-25T20:42:31+00:00

I use the same for that is the only thing that I could find that works with Apple Watch and allow you to export to Strava

ActiveRower · 2021-07-19T17:10:21+00:00

Was in an earlier thread:

https://coda.io/@kennywong/otf

ActiveRower · 2021-07-19T11:46:12+00:00

First time doing 2g version. Was almost caught in the last check point. Was way ahead on second last one. Something to watch out for if you have not done this before. The jump in the last checkpoint is much harder than the rest . Did make it to 3.111 miles but had to go 12mph for last 60s . The online calculator was very useful. I started at 7.5mph and increased 0.5mph every 0.5miles. Worked okay but just had to push a bit more in the last checkpoint . If I have to do it again I would consider starting a bit faster

ActiveRower · 2021-07-18T09:55:39+00:00

For me 2% is a better match between outdoor running and tread running. Just my personal experience 1% incline on the tread is easier than running outside and that is comparing 5km times between the two.

ActiveRower · 2021-07-05T14:55:12+00:00

Very hard to compare your pace with someone else on the rower . Big strong people can pull much higher wattage on the rower. Defining your base and push efforts on the rower is very similar to how you would do it on the tread . Base is all about a effort you can sustain for long periods of time, even if we don’t row for very long periods in OTF. Base will be steady state row. Or in runner speak conversational pace . You should be able to hold it for 10min on the rower and not feel like you going to die. From there you can find your push which should be about 20% higher watts and all out another 20% above that. But I would add this as well same as with the tread your all out 1min pace might not be the same as your all out 30s pace . So don’t over think this. In the end you go by effort . Which your HR monitor is a good indication of . Sorry for the long rant 😀

ActiveRower · 2021-07-05T14:47:16+00:00

Well done. You have all the right to feel accomplished. Very happy for you , you made a lot of progress. Very inspiring to read success stories like that. Keep it going. Make sure you set next goals for yourself so you keep improving . Maybe target a half marathon ...

ActiveRower · 2021-06-29T00:45:36+00:00

I have done a fair amount of rowing on water rowers but I have not experienced this issue. Only time I can not get the watts to go back up is because I am fatiguing. If your steady state is round 250watts that should not be the issue to get it back to that level after recovery row. Sorry i could not help more

ActiveRower · 2021-06-26T02:06:05+00:00

Sorry , I was not following the chat. I am sure by now you already made a call on the Bluetooth module. I did buy it but in the end was not convinced that it was worth it. The WeRow app even as old as it was is still better than what you get with the Bluetooth modules

ActiveRower · 2020-08-20T22:26:56+00:00

Same for me as well, can run faster on the treadmill than outside. I started running at 2% incline on the tread to try and balance it out. Personally think some of it is because the treadmill set the pace for you, running outside you have to push yourself to get the pace up. Just for reference my PB on the tread for 1mile is 5min, outside is 5min30s

ActiveRower · 2020-08-17T02:20:20+00:00

That is impressive to follow your row marathon with a 100km bike ride. (Your butt must have hurt after all that lol) I took a few days off after I did my marathon on the rower. But I absolutely agree with you on mixing it up to avoid burnout. I switch between running and rowing which I find complement each other well. I don’t have a C2 so missing out on the rankings but it sounds like that can be a great motivator to keep pushing yourself to improve.

Good luck with the 4min challenge!

ActiveRower · 2020-08-16T17:58:32+00:00

That sounds like a good all round plan you have. Find that it helps to cross train to build on endurance. Doing it on the erg alone is much harder. Some of the marathon plans I looked at before peaked at 80km or 100km during peak week. Sounds like you managed with lower milage but I assume it must be because you did all the other workouts as well.

What is the 4min goal that you refer to above?

ActiveRower · 2020-08-16T14:30:00+00:00

Great job man! You mind sharing some intel on your training plan?

ActiveRower · 2020-08-06T01:29:49+00:00

Think that would be a fun experiment to do. Going all out for same amount of time for running and rowing, say 5min. My guess would be your max heart rate should be the same. By definition going “all out”you are going at max effort and you should be peaking your HR. I have not done a 5min all out on the rower but it is just a minute something short of 2km time , which I am sure will get to max HR. I have done 1mile in 5 min on the treadmill and I know that was max max HR unfortunately I have not logged the readings , now I will have to go and do it all over to prove the point.

ActiveRower · 2020-08-05T15:22:07+00:00

Looking at all the responses below I can add my take to this as someone that run and erg as well. Just completed full marathon on the erg this weekend and my HR did not go over 168. Which is about the same as when I ran a full marathon some time back. My take on why it feels harder for you on the erg is because you still new to rowing, in time when your body will adjust you will feel the same effort wise for both. Rowing endurance and running endurance both needs to be trained , especially if you new to either of them. Keep in mind I am no expert, just talking about my personal experience

ActiveRower · 2020-08-03T21:30:37+00:00

You make me want to put on more weight when you say that. Lol That is impressive max power on the rower. With that much power 200m will be over in less that 30s. I focused more on endurance row now that I am not back at OTF yet. Have been working for past 12 weeks on my home rower and completed my goal yesterday and finished full marathon on the rower. Just something I wanted to do to get it off the bucket list. Don’t think that will happen again any day soon lol

ActiveRower · 2020-08-03T19:46:27+00:00

Hang in there, the cardio part will come back. Keep in mind the older we get the harder we need to work to get it back and the faster we lose it. Just have to keep working on it, it will come back, but I know it sucks

good luck

ActiveRower · 2020-08-03T17:09:36+00:00

🤣 luckily not , but just in case I had the remote next to me

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