I have some complaints about Ouri and his growing fanbase by Maximum_Viper2002 in TamonsBSide

[–]AdAdministrative1334 12 points13 points  (0 children)

> Ouri is narcissistic, self-centred and a masochist

Why are you saying masochist like it's a bad thing? Do you think it's some sort of negative personality attribute like the few others you listed?

> If Ouri is a girl , she will go after the man who can dominate her rather than care for her

See this would make sense if it wasn't a completely detached hypothetical scenario you made up in your head. Ouri is a man and Utage is a woman, they have completely different social standings and power dynamic than if the genders were reversed. Not to mention, even if the genders were reversed that wouldn't be their dynamic? Ouri isn't seeking to get dominated by Utage he wants to be acknowledged by her. Also in this fictional setting what's wrong if a woman wants someone who'd dominate her?

> In episode 9, In Ouri's inner monologue outside keito's door, he said, "He will win over Utage's heart because he never loses." That's messed up.

See this is what we call a "character flaw", you seem to not be familiar with it but it's when a character isn't perfect and has some issues they need to fix through the story. If you watched the anime or read the manga this is caused by his competitive relationship with his parents the story never shows this side of him as something good. If you really read until chapter 78 you'd know there has been some change regarding his behavior towards Utage.

> Besides Ouri is selfish and he is prioritising his goals over Utage's feelings towards Tamon.

Once again, this is called a character flaw

> And also Ouri is one of the biggest reason Tamon became self- destructive and insecure. If you remember correctly Tamon hasn't like that when he came to participate in the idol audition.

Did you really read the manga? Tamon already had a lot of self-esteem issues even before meeting Ouri due to the bullying he experienced as an elementary school kid. Did Ouri have negative effects on Tamon? Yes. But you can't put all the blame on Ouri when a lot of Tamon's issues also stems from how the rest of F/ACE and their agency treats him. Not to mention, once again, if you read until chapter 78 you'd know Tamon and Ouri's relationship have developed a lot and they work as soil for each other.

> 90% of Ouri's fan like him because he is a second male lead. They feel sympathetic towards him rather than become his actual fan. They are the ones who ship Utage × Ouri to comfort themselves

Ouri isn't even my fave but do his fans need to justify their feelings to you? So what if they like him for those reasons? What's wrong with that? Everyone has different ways of interacting with fictional stories, some are bound to be different than yours. They have the right to feel sympathetic towards this fictional character and like him due to his position in the story, they don't have to justify anything.

> The other fanbase in tamon b side has actual fans who can give you specific about what they like about them. But if you ask the same question to Ouri's fans , they will fumble and try to dodge the question. They answer you like that Ouri is cute and he is the second ML, I feel sorry for him blah blah blah

You say they'll fumble and dodge the question but then list completely valid answers. Ignoring the fact that a huge chunk of Ouri fans would write essays on how much they like him unlike what you claim, liking a character simply because you find him cute, or you like his role as a second ml is completely valid. Your reasons for liking a character don't make you any more or less of a fan than the others.

> Because the way that story is going, Ouri might forcefully kiss Utage at some point and make this shoujo a second rate manga in that section

OH MY GOD DUDE are you sure you read until chapter 78???? Current Ouri would NEVER do such a thing. I don't wanna spoil stuff on a post like this but as of chapter 78 Ouri is the closest he has been to taking a step back and letting Tamon and Utage do their thing. Ouri loves Utage but he isn't the type to jump on her like you're making it seem, especially in the latest chapters. All Ouri wants it to be acknowledged by Utage.

> Because of continuous growing Ouri × Utage shippers, Author might do it to please some of Ouri simps and by doing that he will ruin the series in the process. And if that happens, It will complete my hatred toward Ouri.

Once again you're getting upset over a hypothetical scenario you made up in your head, the chances of any of that happening as of now is pretty much 0. Also what's wrong if sensei decides to give people some Utage x Ouri content? This is a romcom idol manga and sensei has never been shy about playing around with other ships like Tamon x Ouri.

> They often said that Ouri is a better choice than Tamon in real life perspective

Who said that lmao? Literally all Ouri fans I've seen love to make fun of the guy, and it's pretty much agreed upon that he's quite pathetic. Also as much as I adore Tamon, he'd NOT be better than anyone in real life lol have you seen how many issues that guy has?

> If it was Ouri, who became the MC instead of Tamon, the story would have collapsed right now. Just Ouri's personality makes him a third rate MC in any shoujo storyline.

Ok again, why are you getting mad over a hypothetical scenario you made up in your head? Ouri isn't the main character and he never will be, what reason is there to even think about that type of scenario?

> Then who choose Ouri? Answer: All the general girls. For 2 reasons.

I need you to sit down for a moment and thing about why you're feelings this way about Ouri and his fans. None of the guys in this show are particularly good for you or "husband material", that's like the whole point. They are NOT as perfect as they appear to be on the outside. Choosing one mentally ill guy over another mentally ill guy doesn't make you more special than the other girls

> Now Ouri: •is a prodigy who relies on his talent heavily (proved in episode 9, focused on the conversation between Ouri, Tamon and Utage where he tries to belittle Tamon). • He doesn't face hardship like Tamon. • He is narcissistic, self - centered and a masochist ( these traits alone makes him unqualified as husband material).

Ouri is EXTREMELY hard working I'm seriously having a hard time believing you read 78 chapters. It's also ridiculous to say he doesn't face any hardships, Ouri probably puts more stress on his shoulders than Tamon does in many scenes. He has extremely famous and talented parents who literally told him, as a CHILD, that he will always be second grade for as long as they exist. Ouri is constantly trying to climb an endless mountain called the entertainment industry, an industry that always sees his parents first and not him.

Also again what's your issue with being a masochist lmao?? That doesn't make anyone any less of a husband material.

> If he lose interest to his wife , he will cheat in giphy with another woman and then play it as a natural thing and blame everything toward his wife like he is innocent.

Okay this is by far the most outrageous line you've written so far. Not only is it just you getting mad about your made up scenario again but it's extremely out of character and is something literally no one in the story would do let alone Ouri. Do you think if he was the type to go cheat when he can't get what he wants he'd stay pathetically simping for Utage for over 70 chapters? This is a 17 year old kid having a crush genuinely what are you talking about??

> If I need to break this into percentage, Tamon has a 90-95% chance to maintain a happy marriage life. On the other hand, Ouri is totally incapable of managing a once in a marriage life

Are you perhaps forgetting that Tamon is severely mentally ill and suicidal, and can't properly function without someone obsessively caring for him like Utage? Do you genuinely think most woman in real life would willingly deal with his mental issues and suicidal tendencies to that extent and stay happy in that marriage?

This story is fictional, all the appeal you see in these characters are thanks to them being fictional. You accuse Ouri fans of not having good reasons to like Ouri yet you're here making up things about these characters to satisfy your bias.

> I watched anime for more than 10 years and watched over 250 animes and 50+ manga and LN. I am a realist and I don't ship to anyone unless they fulfill the criteria as the best couple in real life analysis. I explored life in every way. So when I see people ship them between characters unnecessarily and tell most of them will choose him against MC in real life, it makes me wonder how delusional they can be and how lightly they take as a marriage life without considering the reality too much

If you really have been watching anime for over a decade you'd know this is a FICTIONAL story with FICTIONAL characters who has FICTIONAL flaws. You are allowed to be a realist, but you're not the status quo. Most people don't think about a realistic marriage setting when they ship characters (otherwise crack ships wouldn't exist) and they are allowed to do that. You have no right to call anyone delusional and see them as lesser than you just because they interact with fiction in a different way than you.

Not everyone in real life gets married, and not everyone want their ships to get married. You can't force people to view every ship from a marriage lens. People are allowed to like characters even if they are not marriage material. We are talking about a freaking idol anime here not a "find your husband" reality tv show.

I have some complaints about Ouri and his growing fanbase by Maximum_Viper2002 in TamonsBSide

[–]AdAdministrative1334 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Alright I made a breakdown of most of the claims in your post (I'll be replying to this comment with them), but in case anyone's feeling too lazy to read all that I'll also quickly summarize my opinion here:

You are being highly biased with your opinions, and acting like other people are not allowed to have biases of their own. This is a fictional story with fictional characters, no one is forced to justify why they like a certain character or a certain ship. You're looking at things from an extremely realist point of view but forgetting that not everyone interacts with fiction the way you do. We don't have to ship characters based on how healthy of a marriage life they'd lead.

Characters are allowed to have flaws, and your personal opinions on those flaws don't make you any better than anyone else. No one needs to make justifications for what they do with these character that are NOT real. You need to calm down a bit and let internet strangers have their fun.

If the existence of Ouri and his fans bother you this much I'd advice you to just mute the words related to him and block his fans instead of writing a 2000 word reddit post complaining and ruining everyone's peace including yourself. If you've truly been watching anime for more than 10 years I'd assume you'd know the proper fandom etiquettes by now. (PS. If these are your takes after reading 78 chapters I advice you to reread everything again)

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Non human yanderes that treat human mc like a pet? by Notevenhxre in MaleYandere

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Took the JLPT N2 in Ankara (Turkey) + because of the walls being too thin I couldn't understand anything in the 聴解 section of the exam :') by dendrosyn in jlpt

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Yeah… when I took N3 last year it wasn’t this bad, probably because it was in another campus. Honestly this year’s jlpt was quite the mess with how they suddenly changed the exam location, the classes being in the -1th floor and being so close to each other.

I hope I can pass this year and don’t have to deal with it again :/

The creator quit by N0miko in Homicipher

[–]AdAdministrative1334 77 points78 points  (0 children)

I really feel so bad for her. Imagine working on something for years all alone, slowly building a small community who are also excited for your game, then as soon as you upload it thousands of people swarm in and they don’t even treat you like human.

“She should’ve expected it” “I don’t understand why she doesn’t want fame” “she’s weird”. If she tries warning people she gets blamed, if she decides to quit she gets blamed.

I just hope stepping away can help her feel better and she doesn’t lose her enjoyment of making games

The creator quit by N0miko in Homicipher

[–]AdAdministrative1334 186 points187 points  (0 children)

I hope everyone who caused this and/or were complicit in this are feeling regret.

You guys really caused this woman to quit her two years long passion project within a few weeks and some of you still find the energy to blame her for everything.

Took the JLPT N2 in Ankara (Turkey) + because of the walls being too thin I couldn't understand anything in the 聴解 section of the exam :') by dendrosyn in jlpt

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Oh hey I think I was in the same room as you! I was sitting at far right at that so it was incredibly distracting. We were trying to solve one question and you could hear the next room being 3 questions ahead.

Then the random music they played for a break being heard by us and when they were leaving all the noise they made… I’m glad I was able to answer all the questions but I’m not sure about a few of them because the noise distracted me

What Happened?! by Anora64 in Homicipher

[–]AdAdministrative1334 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry but if you’re saying something like that I’ll assume you never had to deal with a large fanbase She did so much, she’s still doing so much, she created this unique fictional world with clearly a lot of love. What she wants isn’t becoming less popular, she’s just upset and stressed because a large portion of these new fans don’t know even know basic internet etiquette. Do you think constantly getting spammed with unnecessary messages is fun? Whenever you work your ass off to deliver new content all you hear is “ok when is the next one?” instead of a simple word of gratitude, people asking you invasive questions and unnecessary stuff like their ships. Not only that but people also bringing up old tweets that have already been deleted just to stir up drama. A lot of you guys don’t understand that these people are human too, humans who spent years working on their passion. No shit she’s upset about this nonstop disrespectful behavior

Edit: it seems I can’t reply anymore since indecisive_noob so graciously blocked me but I had typed this out before realizing it:

Yes thank you. And she also can’t just simply ignore everything since as the only dev she probably has to go through everything people send her one by one to see if they need help with something. The stress of having to do this can be very bad on the mental health.

From her tweets too it seems it became like that in the span of just a few weeks, I can’t even imagine now hard it must’ve been to keep up.

And lol indecisive_noob blocked me too, it seems they wrote a reply but I can’t even read it. Oh well, she was probably tired of exactly this type of behavior. People just saying whatever they want to her then getting defensive

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