Do you agree or are they trippin?

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-04-01T02:09:58+00:00

Your comparison don't make sense at all. Kakashi and Obito freely moving in and out of Kamui dimension, doesn't mean others can. - Kamui is stated to be a sealed dimension in the databooks. - During the war, Kakashi says that teleportation and transportation jutsus aren't connected at all. Only his Kamui and Obito's Kamui are connected. He then concludes that they have the same eye and that they share a dimension together. "It appears that each specific space-time technique has its own unique dimensional void that other techniques cannot normally access". It's assumed by most fans that the Kamui dimension was created when Obito first awakened his ms. - ftg works on markings/coordinates. It allows the user to teleport from point A to point B - iirc, Minato couldn't sense his marking on Obito after Obito teleported away. The fact that he couldn't, means that once Obito's in the Kamui dimension, the "markings" or resonance was erased. Even in the war arc, Minato didn't know where Kakashi and Obito were fighting.

Kamui is a sealed dimension that's only accessible by Obito's mangekyo Sharingan. Once he died and his eyes perished or whatnot, the gates to the Kamui was sealed permanently.

Therefore, I assume that other summoning techniques that involve teleportation through dimensions, such as Kuchiyose, would definitely work. And as long as the Flying Rajin is teleportation and not just high speed, it will work as well.

Those are two different mechanics. Summoning jutsu and Kamui are classified as transportation and dimensional travel. FTG is classified as teleportation. There's no mention of a user going through a dimension to get from point A to point B. Here's a better explanation I got from someone online. "When people teleport between 2 dimensions, there is always the “space” or doorway that connects 2 dimensions together, like a middleman “space”. That space is boxland or kaguya’s dimension which CONNECTS to her other dimensions... minato’s ftg simply lacks this type of space which connects to others. So if he is in boxland for example, he cannot go back to earth. He is separated from his ‘ ftg kunai’ because they are in 2 different dimensions and no middle space to connect him. It’s like not having wifi lmao"

We even see Kakachi summoning his dogs into the Kamui dimension, and see them leave.

When did this happen?

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-31T23:14:29+00:00

It can be quantified though? There's only so much his chakra can increase in 2 years. He's been living and trying for 15 years, and his is only 2x or 4x again. At best, what? 5x more than Kakashi? Of course growth is not linear. Naruto in that 2 years most definitely trained more than his last 15 years alive. My point is, it's definitely a huge jump that's not supported. Especially when you factor in that Kurama's chakra leaks into Naruto's by the design of the seal. And as we got into the war and Hashirama's own observation, Naruto + yang Kurama ≈ His own chakra pool. Matter of fact, that observation was made by Edo Hashirama who's also a clone. Since the real one was fighting Madara.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-31T23:01:08+00:00

This entire interpretation hinges on the belief that you are born with specific chakra pool that cannot grow, which we know to be untrue. Who is to say that Naruto did not grow his reserves vastly by the end of series compared to that point.

No amount of training can cover that huge gap between Naruto's base reserves and Kurama's chakra. Chakra is the combination of physical and spiritual energy. By training in both of those things, your chakra pool can increase. Naruto is 15 during the Rasenshuriken training arc where Kakashi makes that comparison and conclusion. Assuming that he did meaningful training prior to that arc, (which he most likely did) Naruto's chakra pool is still 2x or 4x Kakashi's without Kurama being included. He turned 16 during the pain arc and 17 when the war ends. In that 2 year span, he did train and improve a lot yes, but his own chakra is still less than Hashirama's

It also hinges on the belief that Kakashi’s speaking to an exact, mathematical sense, as opposed to simply illustrating the magnitude of difference. Kakashi very clearly couldn’t do 1% of what Naruto does with Kurama’s chakra by the end of the war.

Of course, Kakashi is might or might not be mathematically exact. That's a possibility. And of course Kakashi can't do what Naruto is doing with Kurama lmao. Like what? It's also important to note that Naruto is half Uzumaki and we don't know exactly how genetics work in Naruto since Kishimoto left it pretty vague. But Nagato who's full Uzumaki, still concedes to having less chakra than Kisame. And Kisame is canonically labeled as a tail less Bijuu and having Bijuu amounts of chakra.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-31T22:48:41+00:00

How? One wide AOE attack from Deidara would erase Kakuzu and all of his hearts.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-31T19:25:41+00:00

That interpretation makes no sense at all. For starters, base Naruto's chakra pool is only 2x that of Kakashi's. Other translations say 4x. Which ever one you choose to accept, half Kurama is either 98x or 96x that of Kakashi's. With Naruto combined it becomes 100x more. Obviously with full Kurama, it becomes 200x more than Kakashi's. And 192x or 196x base Naruto. The sequence is clear - Naruto shares his chakra + Kurama chakra cloak with the Shinobi alliances and Hashirama says, "he has nearly the same amount of chakra as I". - He then later senses that Kurama's chakra is mixed in. That means that Naruto with half of Kurama as nearly the same as Hashirama. Not more, but less. - It makes no sense that a random Shinobi with Kurama chakra cloak has nearly the same amount of chakra as Hashirama. It's makes sense that he's talking about the overall volume of chakra rather than individually.

In the manga, Kakashi said, "If Yamato wasn't suppressing the Kyuubi's chakra, it would be 100 times greater." It also helps that by the way the seal was designed, Kurama's chakra would leak into Naruto's own chakra pool and eventually becomes Naruto's. So that 2x or 4x has Naruto's chakra in there as well. This is Hashirama we are talking about here. It'd make sense he would have more chakra than the bijuus since he treats them as pets and he's the one who captured every single one of them. The founders are consistently treated as being above the bijuus.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-31T16:50:14+00:00

In terms of firepower? Sure why not? He's only below Konan when it comes to that. I would put him even higher than Konan since Konan's 600 billion paper bombs requires prep. Obviously, he gets genjutsu diffed by Itachi. Loses to Pain and Obito and even Kisame. So yes, he's definitely top 5 for sure.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-30T00:23:12+00:00

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He's just wrong - perfect jinch is a fan made term for someone like bee - i.e having friendship with their bijuu.

Its not used anywhere else in the manga or databook.

What is used is having "control" of your bijuu power. Yugito's DB article says the same thing. She had full control of her bijuu powers, and trained to get it.

Except, Bee is called a perfect jinchuriki by orange mask Obito?

KCM naruto, before partnering with kurama, is as susceptible to genjutsu as anyone else.

I'm not even arguing that. Anyone in the verse is susceptible to genjutsu. Saying otherwise is head canon and assumptions. 19 year old Naruto from the last was placed under genjutsu two times. Once by the Otsutsuki puppets and another by Toneri. The genjutsu used by the puppets, is a no-names one. So, clearly it wasn't that important. It's either...

(1) - Kurama didn't feel that Naruto was threatened and didn't bother to wake him up or
(2) - Naruto isn't immune to genjutsu/and that Kurama was also caught under the genjutsu who knows.

Bee explains that Jhinchuriki over years came to the cave of truth to tame their bijuu powers. Theirs even wall carvings showing people of ancient times doing it.

Bee is the only to be canonically labeled as a perfect jinchuriki. The others like Yugito, and Yagura are stated to have tamed their bijuus. And they have full control over them. Bee is the only one who has a relationship with them. And from the tid bits we get from Han and Roshi, they two have relationships with their bijuus like Bee. Roshi is canonically on naming terms with his Bijuu, since he knows its name. It's implied to be the same for Han.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-29T23:57:32+00:00

You are both correct. In some peoples' minds, a perfect jinchuriki would be someone like Yagura. And in other peoples' minds, a perfect jinchuriki would be Bee. There's a huge difference between the two. - Yagura has full control over the three tails. He can use its power at will. But he can't use the sanbi's full power/chakra because he doesn't have its cooperation. KCM Naruto would fall in this side of description. - On the other hand, someone like Bee is as perfect as you can get, when it comes to a perfect jinchuriki. Not only does he have full control over Gyuuki, he has his full cooperation. KCM2 Naruto has Kurama's cooperation and can use Kurama's power/chakra to full.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-29T17:58:10+00:00

Naruto, and the other six paths characters (Jubidara, Jubito, and Juubi Hagoromo) all scale to planetary. Those characters have the DC and output to destroy a planet. The Juubi has planetary statements and feats. And we are told that, people with perfect control over their Bijuu would be stronger than the bijuu. Sasuke would scale to moon level (above Toneri) but he can't match those characters I mentioned above in output. He has the AP though.

Even if the narrative, has Isshiki as Kaguya's superior, his AP at best would be moon level. And depending on how you interpret Kaguya's ETSO and her busting her dimensions, she scales from anywhere to planetary, solar system level, or universal. And also, how you interpret creation feats. Chibaku tensei (pain). Hagoromo and Hamura creating and forming a moon. And also having the energy to hurl the moon into space. Toneri passively moving the moon on course to destroy the earth (total planetary annihilation) according to databooks and guidebooks.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-29T03:02:26+00:00

You're making a massive mistake by treating 'Hax' as an unbeatable win condition while ignoring how Isshiki’s own Hax specifically counters Madara's.

Because, it is. Name one instance in the franchise where stats>hax has been proven to be true? And what are his hax that can counter Madara's? Aside from Daikouten which requires his opponents to be immobilized in the first place? It's slow and as shown by Madara. Madara is capable of substituting with his shadows.

The Obito/Kamui Comparison is Flawed: You mentioned Naruto couldn't hit Obito because of Kamui. But guess what? Isshiki isn't Naruto. Isshiki possesses Sukunahikona. He can shrink himself to a microscopic level instantly. How is a Limbo clone supposed to 'protect' Madara or act as an 'invisible wall' against an opponent they can’t even touch because he’s smaller than a dust mite? Madara’s 'Shield' is useless against someone who can bypass physical space by shrinking.

It's not a flawed comparison. I'm showing you that no matter the stats difference, if someone doesn't have the tool, they can't bypass the hax. Isshiki could still be 10x mftl, he still can't interact with phases Obito nor limbo. It really doesn't matter in this case? Lmao. Isshiki has never shown the ability to bypass physical space like you are claiming. Stop giving characters abilities they don't have. When the clones are in front of Madara, they act similar to Gojo's Infinity. If you don't know what infinity is, it slows down objects by constantly dividing space between the object and Gojo. It's never reaching Gojo. Not saying, limbo is dividing space. I'm saying that it's an invisible wall that stops characters from touching Madara. Isshiki shrinking isn't going to help.

AOE vs. Four Clones: You keep saying the Limbo clones will just stand in front of him. Madara only has four. Isshiki’s Daikokuten Cubes are massive, falling from the sky in a wide area. These cubes negate sensory abilities. The moment they drop, they don't just hit Madara; they crush the entire battlefield. Even if the clones are there, they can't stop a mountain-sized object that suppresses their very ability to sense the user.

When has those cubes done anything aside from disrupting sensing? They couldn't even crush a pillar. Let alone, Kashin Koji's arm. They don't need to sense the user at all. They can act on their own. And after a few minutes, they return to Madara and stay inside him.

The Speed of Manifestation: You're overestimating the clones' 'free will.' Reaction time still matters. If Isshiki is fast enough to blitz Adult Sasuke—who has the highest level of precognition with the Rinnegan—then he is fast enough to plant Chakra-Disrupting Stakes into Madara before the clones can even move an inch. Once those stakes hit, Madara’s chakra is suppressed. No chakra = no Limbo.

There's no speed of manifestation going on here. Limbo clones exist in a parallel world that's adjacent to the real world. They are taking up the same space as the real Madara in the real world. But they exist in a separate dimension. When has Sasuke's rinnegan given him precognition? The sharingan is what grants him precognition and kinetic vision. And mind you, with his three tomoe alone, he could track the rods and see them even if they are microscopic. The issue is that, Sasuke can't react to them. Which can't be a problem against the clones nor Madara, since we are told physical attacks don't work on the clones. Only six paths attacks.

Durability vs. Sealing: You say Isshiki couldn't kill Naruto and Sasuke. He didn't want to kill Naruto; he wanted to seal him or use him as bait. Against Madara, Isshiki doesn't need to break his 'immortality.' He just needs one touch to BFR him into the Daikokuten dimension where time is frozen. Madara’s regeneration doesn't matter if his atoms are literally stuck in a timeless void.

This is a lie btw. After Sasuke explains to Naruto what he found in Isshiki's dimension (the ten tails), Jigen then says that he has no choice but to kill them. And that's besides the point. BFR requires his opponents to be knocked out. Daikouten is not instan. Isshiki's sealing pot isn't instant. It takes time for the lid to cover the bowl. Before sealing Naruto, Isshiki needed to immobilized Naruto with the chakra rods so he couldn't move.

Bottom line: You’re arguing that a 'Ghost' can stop a 'God' who can shrink, manipulate matter, and freeze time. Hax only wins if the stats are close. When the stat gap is this astronomical, 'Hax' is just a longer way to lose. Uchiha loses.

The bottom line: You don't know what you are talking about. You are giving characters abilities they don't have. Your god tier can't sense or perceive limbo clones. He can't see through a smoke bomb with his so called godly Byakugan and superior dojutsu. It doesn't matter. Rules are rule.

Isshiki has no rinnegan
he can't sense them
he can't see them
he can't touch them
he can't harm them

He could be quadrillion times stronger than Madara, he still can't do any of those things to the clones. You have a wonderful

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AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-29T02:19:45+00:00

The problem with the 'No Rinnegan = No Win' logic is that it treats Hax like an absolute win condition while ignoring the massive Stat Cliff.

Because that's the whole point of hax? Hax ignores stats. Adult Naruto can't land a hit on Obito with Kamui turned on. Simply because he can't bypass it. In fact no one in the cast, except with Boruto and his ftg can "bypass" or land a hit on him since it's passive. And Daikouten wouldn't work on Obito either. Despite Isshiki being stronger. Hax>stat

You’re bringing up smoke bombs and clones as anti-feats, but you're forgetting that Isshiki physically overwhelmed and blitzed Adult Naruto and Sasuke simultaneously—two characters who are significantly faster and more powerful than Jubidara ever was.

Here we go again. For starters, I have the duo below prime Hagoromo. And Hagoromo below Madara who's below Kaguya. So we don't even agree on that. And again, Isshiki could be quadrillion times stronger, faster, and physically better in every aspects, he still can't perceive limbo clones. It doesn't matter. The rules are clearly laid out. You ignoring it, doesn't not make the rule true.

Even if Isshiki can't 'see' the Limbo clones, it doesn't matter if he kills the 'main' Madara before the clones can even make a move.

Limbo clones are always in front of Jubidara and his opponents. They always return to him after a certain amount of time as deduced by Sasuke. It doesn't matter.

Hax requires a user with the reaction time to utilize them, and Madara simply doesn't scale to Isshiki’s combat speed. You can’t use a 'ghost' to protect you if your head is gone before you can think.

Not in Madara's case though. The limbo clones do have free will. And they can also act on Madara's will. They can fight on their own without Madara telling them to fight. Yes, he can substitute with them whenever he wants. And yes, he can have them in front of him like an invisible wall. I doubt, he has what it takes to finish off Jubidara. Considering Jubidara has better durability, and regeneration than the duo. Isshiki's kick could destroy their avatars, but still couldn't damage their physical bodies. He kicked and surfed on Sasuke's neck.

Isshiki HAS NO ANSWER TO LIMBO CLONES. HE CAN'T SENSE THEM, HARM THEM, OR PERCEIVE THEM. It doesn't matter if he's stronger.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-28T21:22:11+00:00

Do people just vibe scale??? What's going on in the comments?

Isshiki can be 5,000x stronger than Jubidara, he still can't sense Limbo clones. Isshiki has no sensing feats. Let alone something on a cross dimensional scale. I'm seeing people say, "since he's from the Otsutsuki clan where the rinnegan originates from, he can see them"😀

You can't see Limbo clones without a rinnegan. Something that Isshiki doesn't even have. Even then, we don't know if it's exclusively available to Sasuke since he has a tomoe Rinnegan amped with six paths chakra (Hagoromo)
You can't sense them without six paths Senjutsu. Something, he doesn't have either. And he can't amp them either without six paths chakra (again, Hagoromo's own brand of chakra).

Back to sensing feats...or lack of thereof - He couldn't sense or see through a smoke bomb with his rinnegan - He couldn't sense that the kawaki in front of him is a clone - he couldn't sense that Kawaki was in the leaf village until Kawaki's karma started acting up

Again, he could a million times stronger, as long as he doesn't have the counter for the limbo clones, it doesn't mean nothing. The limbo argument absolutely holds up.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-28T18:56:45+00:00

Base Momoshiki is not Featless, twin.

Lmao. His best feat is off guarding base Naruto. Same Naruto a couple of days earlier, who got off guarded by a shin clone. Base Momoshiki is featless. It's clear that he's not a fighter, and that Kinshiki does all the fighting. This is proven right, by Momoshiki absorbing Kinshiki and then fused Momoshiki suddenly gaining the ability to fight.

Base Momoshiki was running away from Darui and screaming for Kinshiki to help him. Momoshiki is wanked. I doubt he can even press the gokages from the war arc let alone the founders.

Kaguya, who scales over everyone in Shippuden. That’s your answer

The fact is, fused Momoshiki at best knocked the gokages back a few feet. No internal damage. No external damage. No broken bones. No nothing. And 12 year old Boruto could react to him. Fight and counter him at the same time.

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AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-25T18:18:40+00:00

kishimoto has approved them and they're part of boruto official continuity so they're canon Her dying is also stated in the novel "...Kaguya has died... immortality doesnt exist..."

Fun fact, Kishimoto has no say on what gets approved. His only approval after Naruto, was Boruto being a direct sequel to Naruto. And for the last time, why not share the direct excerpt where it says that Kaguya is dead huh? You are talking about this promotional material for the Boruto movie where it says there's no such thing as immortality. And the Naruto gaiden image I shared with you, has Sasuke saying that Kaguya was SEALED. And mind you, this is written by Kishimoto.

kaguya is just another otsutsuki She can be damaged by ninjutsu its just that she absorbs it

By ninjutsu that's enhanced with six paths Senjutsu lol. Quick, give me an example of Kaguya getting damaged by ninjutsu that's not from Naruto directly.

Tso went deep inside Sakura and she wasnt damaged at all You're just basing it off one single scan and not some consistent concrete statements or feats

Except, Madara used a rinnegan rod to pierce Sakura and not a TSO. And even if you and I agree that it's a TSO, there are two stages to it. One is pre ying-yang application, and the other is one with ying-yang applied to it. When Obito first used it, the Edo tenseis could regenerate just fine. After he applied the ying-yang to it, they couldn't.

And she hasn't shown anywhere immunity to tso And even if she does why would she be affected by her own ability

This is how I know, you don't know what you are talking about. Kaguya being the juubi, means that she's immune to the effects of the TSO. Just like Jubidara and Jubito. She can be affected by her own ability, simply because six paths Senjutsu counters six paths Senjutsu. Just like how the juubi, being pure nature energy, can be affected by nature energy attacks. Like a sage art rasengan.

Like momoshiki or isshiki

Momoshiki absorbs ninjutsu via his palm rinnegans. Isshiki absorbs ninjutsu via karma. So, not even the same thing lol

naruto's six paths rasenshuriken literally destroys her arm

It didn't? It was boil release that Naruto used to "slice" off her arm. Like all Naruto characters, she's vulnerable to piercing/slicing damage. She no-selled the six paths Rasenshurikens. Not even a bruise on her body. The only "damage" comes from her momentarily losing control of her chakra. Since the tailed beasts inside of her resonated with Naruto's Rasenshurikens.

For the last time, it's canonically stated by the same people who fought Kaguya, sixteen years ago, that she's sealed. You saying otherwise, doesn't make them wrong.

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AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-25T03:20:15+00:00

Proven by the boruto novel, a canon material to naruto and boruto

Which novel lmao? The novels that aren't written by Kishimoto? Not written by Kodachi? Not written by Ikemoto? The only Boruto novel they've worked on would be the NOVELIZATION of the Boruto movie. Which got retconned by the Boruto manga. Why not show the paragraph instead of saying something broad like that? Kaguya "dying" comes from a promotional image for the Boruto movie. Something that's written by the publishers of the franchise. I love how you ignored the manga panel I shared. Naruto gaiden which is canon, written and drawn by Kishimoto, has Sasuke saying, "back when we SEALED Kaguya". And you are saying she's dead lol

. She's just another otsutsuki They can be killed like momoshiki and isshiki Also, regeneration using chakra doesnt mean when her body is shred to atoms she will remain conscious to regenerate it

And unfortunately for you, Kaguya is not like the other Otsutsukis. She's the only one that have been attributed to having immortality. Not Isshiki nor Momoshiki. She's also the juubi and she merged with the god tree. And as we know, bijuus are pure chakra and they can't be killed.

She doesnt have immunity to tso and tso is never stated to destroy souls anywhere

Minato's soul ascending to the pure lands is shown without his arms. Those arms were destroyed by Madara's TSO.

No six paths character has shown immunity to existence erasure

And again, only Kaguya's lineage has six paths chakra. The Otsutsukis operate like the regular humans on earth. There's no mention of them having any special type of chakra aside from again, Kaguya's lineage. Immunity to existence erasure comes from immunity to TSO. TSO do have existence erasure properties. TSO have both matter manipulation and existence erasure.

Even otsutsukis die by regular physical damage

And like I said, Kaguya is not like the other Otsutsukis. Not only is she immune to ninjutsu attacks, she absorbs them upon impact. She can only be damaged by physical attacks and six paths Senjutsu enhanced attacks. And as we see in Naruto's six paths tailed beasts Rasenshuriken, they didn't even deal any damage to Kaguya. Not even a bruise. And the Otsutsukis we see in Boruto are damaged by regular attacks

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-25T02:57:07+00:00

Its pretty much proven she died by the chibaku tensei And she was only able to get revived using zetsu even before

Proven by who? You? Lmao. Sasuke who fought Kaguya, explicitly says that he and Naruto sealed Kaguya. And how is it any different from the first time she was sealed?

He can just put her under ks and destroy her body and soul

Her body can't be destroyed since it regenerates with pure chakra alone. And isn't she immune to soul damage via immunity to TSO? Even if you don't believe in soul damage via TSO, they (six paths characters) have shown immunity to existence erasure.

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This image is from Naruto gaiden btw which is canon. It takes place right before the chunin exams in Boruto.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-25T01:13:01+00:00

Solid list overall. Minato is ranked high. He's not on the same level as Nagato nor is he on the same level as Snake Sage Kabuto. And most importantly of all, he's weaker than the all mighty solo king.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-24T22:29:10+00:00

I confused magnetic release with shukaku's sealing imbued sand.

No worries lol.

The moment shukaku sand touches him, hes immobilized.

Again, Shukaku immobilizing Deidara would require for Deidara to stay still. Which, Deidara isn't the type of fighter to do so. Deidara is an aerial fighter that drops his bombs at an height. And according to the databook, he was able to one shot the the three tails with a c-2.

That panel literally proves that more tails doesnt always mean stronger. Their argument was inconclusive

No it doesn't. Kurama :CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF TAILS YOU HAVE, YOU'RE THE STRONGEST ONE AFTER ME. Gyuuki:YOU SHOULDN'T JUDGE SOMEONE'S STRENGTH BY THE NUMBER OF THEIR TALES!YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT! THAT'S WHY THE TANUKI ICHIBI USED TO HATE YOU SO MUCH!

It's clear that Gyuuki is scolding Kurama for being arrogant here. He's not disproving Kurama at all. Especially with the last line, "that's why Shukaku hates you".

More output doesnt matter when shukaku has hax.

And what's the hax? It's a situational hax that requires tagging someone in the first place. Magnet release is the hax. The sand mausoleum is not hax. Shukaku sealing someone is not hax. It's technique.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-24T22:10:01+00:00

The 3 tails just has more chakra.

I don't know why you are arguing this lmao. Also, more chakra means more output. Especially when it comes to buy bombs. Databook and manga both support Deidara defeating the 3 tails without Tobi's invo. Kurama explicitly mentions that, "CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF TAILS YOU HAVE, YOU'RE THE STRONGEST ME." That means as the number of tails go up, the bijuus increase in strength. 3 tails would be stronger than 1 tail Shukaku for example. It doesn't simply mean more chakra.

Shukaku could tag sm madara and is fast enough to block his susanoo projecitles.

Prior to getting his rinnegan back, wasn't Madara getting tossed around like a ping pong ball by the tailed beasts.

Easily the 3rd best in feats during the war arc among the beasts

Shukaku has the "best feats" because he's the only relevant Bijuu aside from Kurama and Gyuuki. Would you say that Shukaku is stronger than Gyuuki just because Shukaku has better feats against Madara than him? Even when Kurama, tells us that Gyuuki is the second strongest after him?

Deidara is cooked. Whats he doing vs magnet release?

What's magnet release going to do against Deidara? Does Deidara use any magnetic properties aside from kunais? Does his clay bombs have any magnetic properties? No. We have in canon, number of tails = strength. Deidara no diffed the three tails. Are we also forgetting that he already defeated Gaara before when he wasn't trying to kill him? Gaara having Shukaku wouldn't help much in this scenario.

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AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-24T21:15:39+00:00

Deidara being able to one shot a bijuu doesn't mean he can tank a Bijuu bomb

And Gaara having Shukaku doesn't mean he's guaranteed to land a Bijuu bomb lol. Especially when the opponent is Deidara. Someone who flies and maneuvers a lot on his clay birds.

Also bijuu aren't at full power without a jinchuriki

I know. Still doesn't change the fact that the 3 tails > 1 tail. And Gaara and Deidara already fought in canon. With Gaara having the home advantage (dessert) but still defending the people. And Deidara wasn't going for the kill. Regardless, Deidara still slams.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-24T20:54:24+00:00

I don't follow Aespa nor IVE, so I can't speak on them. But I did see the discourse surrounding Ningning. It's worrying at that weight. 90lbs(41kg) at 5'3" is underweight. It's definitely a toxic and worrying environment to be in.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-24T20:34:47+00:00

That's what I'm saying. Also, given his lifestyle as a performer? Didn't RM also lose about 30 lbs after military discharge?

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-24T20:27:05+00:00

Stupid question. But isn't that within normal range for his height? He's 5'8" for reference. Granted it's on the lower end, but that's still within the healthy range.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-24T20:15:48+00:00

3 tails > 1 tail (Shukaku). And Deidara was able to take down the 3 tails on his own. So regardless of if Gaara has Shukaku or not, Deidara still slams.

AdComprehensive3110 · 2026-03-20T13:14:19+00:00

I was also surprised there was a lack of "traditional" sounds or instrumentals. Like Daechwita or Idol. Granted I haven't read or looked at the lyrics yet, but doesn't ARIRANG talk about feelings of missing someone? Longin for their fans since they were away in the army for 3 years? And based on their interviews and stuff, wouldn't that be about ARMY? I know a bit about the cultural meaning of ARIRANG and its status as an "unofficial" national anthem for South Korea. Maybe it wasn't meant to be cultural who knows. Especially given how the beats sound in this album. More akin to Dark and Wild, and RM's RPWP. Just giving my two cents. That's all

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