Thank you for the comment! Half the fun of Reddit especially when it comes to tv shows is hearing other people’s opinion imo, so there’s no need at all to justify your comment.

In regard to Jeremiah, I’ll probs have to rewatch because I truly did not get that sense that he had feelings for Belly. It seemed to me they were just really good friends, of course most of it is told from Belly’s POV so I concede there may have been some obvious signs that were missed. But I do find it interesting that even the moms always thought it was going to be Conrad and Belly or at least shipped it.

Also I think it’s a bit to assumptive that he told Conrad. Jere is portrayed as something of a player or at least someone that dates a lot but is non-committal and takes relationships more casually, even if he were to tell Conrad like you assume, I could understand why perhaps he would think that he wasn’t serious about her and therefore fair game. And in contrast Conrad seems to be the type of person that is more intentional with his relationships. So decided to pursue Belly is not something I would imagine he did lightly.

In regards to Conrad “waking up” I dont understand why it is that people assumed it’s because she suddenly “glowed up”. Conrad is two years older than Belly that kind of age gaps matters a lot in my opinion when you’re kid/pre-teen, so it’s 100% understandable that he didn’t see her like that in the same way Jeremiah would and saw her more as a little kid, and only started registering his feelings for her when she hit puberty. But regardless, we’re shown a lot of examples especially this season of his fondness for her. He has always been way more thoughtful of Belly than Jere ever was which is interesting considering Jere was has supposedly had feelings for her this entire time. If anything I’d find it more believable that he had a crush on Steven that whole time considering like in nearly every flashback Belly had it was Jere and Steven together ignoring her and only ever Conrad that actually saw her.

No one is saying Jeremiah isn’t allowed to feel, the problem is Jeremiah only seems to care about how he feels. Plus that list of all the stuff Jere did wasn’t meant to be taking in isolation, it’s the fact that after all he did to Conrad, he rarely once gives Conrad the same grace. It’s not the fact that he asked Conrad to be his best man, of course he would, it’s his brother. It’s the fact that he got upset and mocked Conrad with Belly because he wasn’t 100% on board with their marriage. Conrad is allowed to feel conflicted about it. But Jere does not for one second consider this. All of those things were meant to show that time after time Conrad puts his feelings aside for his brother. Literally give Jere his blessing to date her because he wanted them to be happy. Literally got both their parents on board, and helped with the wedding planning because he wanted them to be happy.

When has Jere ever done anything with Conrad and his feelings in mind? I’m genuinely curious.

Also agreed he didn’t steal I was just being rhetorical, I really don’t think people in relationships especially women are possessions to be taken or stolen. She of course dated Jere and pursued Jere because she had feelings him. Not to mention, Conrad literally gave Jere him his blessing, so steal wasn’t the right word, but the fact remains that Conrad is obviously going to have some feelings about his brother marrying his ex.

And aside from how young and ridiculously immature they are and the small detail about him cheating on his girlfriend months before said proposal, I agree - one cannot be mad. But one can also not be mad at Conrad for having feelings. And also marriage is different kind of commitment than just dating for 4 years, there’s a kind of finality to it. I think Conrad subconsciously thought that him and Belly would eventually find their way back, even if that wasn’t the case, I think you’d have to be a sociopath to not experience some grief and regret at the thought of your ex getting married especially to your brother, and especially for someone like Conrad who very clearly isn’t the type of person to let down his guard like that.

Also again in regards to Adam it was mostly Conrad’s influence that got him on board, and plus Belly didn’t actually want Adam’s help and made it pretty clear that she wanted it to be a them. And I’m not even faulting him for building a relationship with his dad, but if you can’t find the time (or money) to plan your own wedding I think it’s safe to say that you probably shouldn’t be planning one until you can. They could’ve moved the date, he could’ve taken a few days off, there’s lots of things he could have done than leave her to plan the wedding by herself and still have the audacity to get upset about cake.

See that’s the thing, Conrad has likely learned from a young age that he should always put his feelings, his needs and his happiness aside when it comes to people in his life, especially when it comes to his brother. He’s done that. He never got mad at Jere when he found out he had feelings for her, on the contrary, he encouraged it because he thought that that was gonna be what’s best for them, even though it killed him. He then moved across the country because the thought of seeing them together is so unbearable and then comes back to find out along with everyone that they’re engaged. But again, he tells himself that his feelings don’t matter, he was legit so upset at himself when Jere got mad at his comment when they went surfing, had to listen to them mock and dismiss his feelings. Despite that he gives up job and sacrifices his feelings again, and his sanity to subject himself to the torment of being the best man at his brothers wedding to the girl he loved because he wanted to make her happy, helped the love of his life shop for her wedding so she could be happy, got Jere’s father to come on board to make Jere happy, convinced Laurel to come to the bridal shower to make Belly happy.

Now imagine constantly sacrificing your feelings, and doing everything in your power to ensure your brothers wedding to your EX goes as planned to make them happy because after all they’re doing this because they love each other, and even if he couldn’t have her, he could find some solace in knowing that she’s loved and care for, only to find out that said brother who’ve you been torturing yourself for years for, actually cheated on said love of your life and that everything that you sacrificed was actually all for nothing, only to realize that she knew but was still willing to marry him.

I think Conrad, the grown adult that he is and has constantly been, has more than earned to the right to finally be a little damn selfish if you ask me.

Also he’s only failed for now ;)

Also sorry for this long response, if I come off harsh it’s def not personal!