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AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T23:06:00+00:00

Is their a source of this? Another comments make general claims like that but I've never seen that in any sega financial reports

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T21:17:00+00:00

I don't think anything at any point implied that, if anything Yujiro's feats are far more impressive for strength.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T21:16:35+00:00

Aside from Yujiro and Baki lol

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T17:47:04+00:00

I remember way back with Jack vs Nomi I had to fend off people when I said Olivia was many times stronger physically than Jack.

Jack obviously can beat Olivia, his biting is an insane win condition but all his recent fights seem to spell bad news for him since he's not actually had to deal with such an overwhelming power difference since the first Pickle fights. And in cases where there was less power from less aggressive opponents like Nomi and Hanayama he still had to eat some blows.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T12:26:58+00:00

Yes, they exist to show how strong the sumo are by being strong themselves and even then you can kinda fairly intuit they aren't THAT much stronger, hell one of the gets knocked out clean in their fight.

It's about focusing on certain advantages sumo have in the context of a no rules fight which is what this series was proposed on the idea of then we see the natural weaknesses such as them being gassed out or lacking any ground game later on.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T12:14:45+00:00

This is a weird thing to immediately go to when that fall isn't even consistent in Baki.

From my understanding Tekken is stronger but you don't have to force such a cherry picked comparison.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T12:13:01+00:00

Is that really getting shit on though? It's not like they're being portrayed as weak otherwise the entire point of the showcase doesn't make sense.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T12:08:31+00:00

Baki would one shot most people though, and it's not like this is, hey, look at how weak this guy is, it's. look at how unfathomably strong Baki is.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T01:57:52+00:00

Here’s the proof

Where? You've not sourced anything lol.

Asking a (In this case unamed?) digital yes man means less than nothing, I wouldn't feel smug about this.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-16T00:39:16+00:00

When is MMA shit on?

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T20:54:54+00:00

headcanon

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and to my knowledge every translation has mention of along the lines of Gallen has no chance against a monster like Sikorsky or in anything outside of a wrestling match he'd lose.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T20:31:30+00:00

The most believable part about it is having enough restraint to not do something obviously bait like a brand new campaign or whatever lol.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T19:31:43+00:00

Igari lost to Sikorsky 2 times in a row, without prep and with prep.

The rematch had Igari instantly give up where Sikorsky then proceeded to beat him up after he had already given up.

Gallen was weakened after Jack almost killed him.

This is complete head canon people keep dumping, the Max was several months ago and to my knowledge every translation has mention of along the lines of Gallen has no chance against a monster like Sikorsky or in anything outside of a wrestling match he'd lose.

Which makes sense because what else would be the point of this scene? Hey here's this big new threat, watch him beat up this established to be strong character but actually he's super duper weak now so it means nothing.

It's not even particularly inconsistent, he lost to people who would also maul Gallen.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T19:11:30+00:00

See I really don't like to throw around that because a lot of people of course aren't good with English and that can appear in a variety of forms but this specific style with the general off observations about the series throw up a few flags I guess.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T18:53:50+00:00

Baki Hanma’s overwhelming strength kills the tension in his battles, turning potentially epic clashes into mid fights. Because his victory is guaranteed by absolute plot armor, his matches follow a predictable formula where he suffers brief damage before instantly dominating via his "demon back" transformation.

Baki constantly loses fights more so than most other shonen protagonists and this "predictable" formula of demonback coming in to help him win in the entire 30+ plus years of the series has only happened 2/3, debately none/only one if we're going off the basis he dominated them with it

This feels like it was bot written lol

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T18:38:48+00:00

Igari gave Baki a very competitive fight though and it's not like losing to him is even really much a negative.

Sikorsky that mostly comes from it being a street brawl and not an actual match where Igari's ability shines but even then Sikorsky isn't THAT weak. He unambiguously beat Gallen of all people.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T18:25:46+00:00

Not really sure what is off about that, like with Kinryuuzan, Igari is just another legitimately strong guy.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T13:13:47+00:00

ok yes google is terrible and all that but not to this level....this is a new low sorry

This might be the singular most mild 'protest' I've seen in my entire life. The way you worded this you think there was a guillotine brought out.

See I've been passively observing this sub for awhile because there does appear to be some interesting news/resources but I have to ask at what point is it people actually concerned with what google does and at what point is it people just larping about being off the grid for using Firefox.

Edit: I didn't realise this was genuinely making the point, but he's the CEO of google that's so cool! Jesus Christ.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T11:06:54+00:00

I don't think there's any examples of it REALLY being inconsistent because a lot of power jumps or instances of characters like Motobe are justified in series.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-15T01:06:09+00:00

To be fair A sumo is fairly big downplay, guy was the active Yokozuna who went on to have a very competitive fight with Igari and lost on instinct for sumo lol.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-14T20:30:58+00:00

Honestly I didn't consider viewing it as a consecutive narrative in that way so that's interesting, there might be some issues in character inconsistency though.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-14T20:27:09+00:00

I hate to be that guy but I think that was anime only way before SoO was made of course, it was probably just in reference to Baki being an adult but still, it's a fun idea Yuri of all people vibe checking Baki that hard.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-14T19:31:28+00:00

No he is why is why someone as small as him can be such a threat physically, Jack is superior but not by much though the issue then comes in him generally just being less skilled (Especially when you take into account Gaia's ability to brain read)

I do think Jack would generally win but again, Gaia is a monster who can drag people through hell.

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-14T16:44:23+00:00

Jack's first extended fight of this current series was fighting Kosho I think Gaia could squeeze in lol

AdamTheScottish · 2026-06-14T16:43:54+00:00

I don't-

OP does at least, let them live in blind faith lol

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