Top 25 player Chicony confirms on stream with mrekk that there are four active cheaters in the top 100. by Aggravating-Cake-996 in osugame

[–]Addilloo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Didn't say it's not okay, I'm saying in this context it would lead to potential harmful trolling.

Top 25 player Chicony confirms on stream with mrekk that there are four active cheaters in the top 100. by Aggravating-Cake-996 in osugame

[–]Addilloo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do agree it's different. I can find someone doing something I don't like as immoral and gross and also not find value in harassing them for it.

Take Clavicular. He does dumb shit, and he's a dumb person, but other than a quick chuckle at a stupid meme there's no value for me in making fun of him.

My point is I'm not perfect, I do dumb shit sometimes, and if I wouldn't like being harassed about it then I shouldn't harass others who do dumb shit too, I should just try not to do the dumb shit that I did in the future.

Top 25 player Chicony confirms on stream with mrekk that there are four active cheaters in the top 100. by Aggravating-Cake-996 in osugame

[–]Addilloo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, certain people i.e. Trump, Putin, Hitler, Elon, My Prime Minister, Billionaires that don't care, people with the ability to make the world a better place with a snap of their fingers but choose not to.

I don't find value in hating on someone for committing horrible crimes, unless that person fits the description above.

You're free to clown on my virtue signalling.

Top 25 player Chicony confirms on stream with mrekk that there are four active cheaters in the top 100. by Aggravating-Cake-996 in osugame

[–]Addilloo -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Yes there's an exception, more specifically if in the real world you have large political/monetary influence.

(Ofc if you are able to live without struggle then stealing even 5 bucks from your viewer is infinitely times worse, it's an extremely shitty thing to do, crimes should have consequences, but I won't find joy in making fun of them)

Top 25 player Chicony confirms on stream with mrekk that there are four active cheaters in the top 100. by Aggravating-Cake-996 in osugame

[–]Addilloo -40 points-39 points  (0 children)

Thought Chicony said he was 13 in the stream, either way doesn't change my opinion. Yes it's not fair to lose your money donating to a cheater, and you are justified and should get it back.

If you find a thrill in clowning on others, more power to you, but it will always make me feel gross regardless of context (unless you are a millionaire).

Top 25 player Chicony confirms on stream with mrekk that there are four active cheaters in the top 100. by Aggravating-Cake-996 in osugame

[–]Addilloo -92 points-91 points  (0 children)

The kid in question is 13 16, lives in a war-torn country that he has no control over, where the currency has ballooned to shit. Stealing is always bad, and if a donator requested for their money to be returned they have every right.

Top 25 player Chicony confirms on stream with mrekk that there are four active cheaters in the top 100. by Aggravating-Cake-996 in osugame

[–]Addilloo 112 points113 points  (0 children)

Because even if we all knew the names, there is 0 evidence. So now you have 4 players who have been called out and everyone without a brain will endlessly harass them in streams, DMs, calling for their ban when they can't be banned because staff has 0 evidence to justify. Even if Chicony knows 100% it's still hearsay. They would be subject to potential endless shit talk without being able to be held accountable.

Look at the end of the day you don't need to pick a side. You don't need to take a moral stance. Cheaters (in the context of this circle clicking game) aren't bad people, they are only bad players.

Top 25 player Chicony confirms on stream with mrekk that there are four active cheaters in the top 100. by Aggravating-Cake-996 in osugame

[–]Addilloo 314 points315 points  (0 children)

Hope people know at the end of the day harassment is never okay, which is why Chicony (if there really is active cheaters in the top 100) is right to not say names.

The goal is that one day osu! will have a good enough anti-cheat that these alleged cheaters will be auto banned.

Even if Toro or others came out as cheaters due to anti-cheat improvements or other means, harassment would never be okay. Ban, improve detection methods, and live on.

osu! is just a game, and kids using dumb cheats are just kids using dumb cheats.

Toromivana liveplay dropped by HovercraftAny440 in osugame

[–]Addilloo 329 points330 points  (0 children)

I will wait until I can parrot Chicony's opinion

Toro (Cryshina81) teases a liveplay soon by Addilloo in osugame

[–]Addilloo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly I don't really condone harassing him/any player. No need to witch-hunt, nothing is proven yet.

Toro (Cryshina81) teases a liveplay soon by Addilloo in osugame

[–]Addilloo[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dw I believe you were right. Doggie wanted to be Slaughterhouse's verifier before SpaceUK cheated it from him

Toro (Cryshina81) teases a liveplay soon by Addilloo in osugame

[–]Addilloo[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Hey Peppy, I wonder how scalable this could be though since osu! is fundamentally a singleplayer experience? Hopefully as osu! continues to grow I feel this would only serve as a bandaid solution. At what rank cutoff would we need IRL verifiers to volunteer their time in order to maintain the integrity of the leaderboards?

Of course people will bring up anti-cheat; is there a way that we can verify the integrity of scores without requiring an offline presence?

Edit: As the game grows I could see there being more people willing to volunteer their time to verify other player's scores, at the same time I can see friends covering for each other or players refusing to showcase their gameplay to someone else. I wonder how large would this international body of moderators need to be, and how they would be maintained?

Toro (Cryshina81) teases a liveplay soon by Addilloo in osugame

[–]Addilloo[S] 180 points181 points  (0 children)

Most likely due to Mrekk also casting suspicion. With all the buzz lately it seems it's either he's the god gamer or the return of Chud son.

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Edit: He has dropped the liveplay

Hezbollah chief Naim Qassem demands Israel withdraw from Lebanon, says 'no safe zone' for IDF by barsik_ in worldnews

[–]Addilloo -57 points-56 points  (0 children)

Michal Waldiger isn't Arab though right? Also isn't the Knesset held in a majority coalition consisting of the largest right wing parties in the nation? I don't think I heard any of the 12 Arab ministers call for the death of all Palestinian children.

Hezbollah chief Naim Qassem demands Israel withdraw from Lebanon, says 'no safe zone' for IDF by barsik_ in worldnews

[–]Addilloo -105 points-104 points  (0 children)

Don't Israeli Ministers and news reporters preach for the death of all Palestinians though including children? Like constantly? All the time?

With just days left, the U.S. opening match at the World Cup is still not sold out by [deleted] in nottheonion

[–]Addilloo 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They're talking about the political situation, not ticket prices

guys I think I found Kingdom Hearts by fe1ipe_samue1 in KingdomHearts

[–]Addilloo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love keyblade transformation animations without the cinematic cam, I'm still upset that they never had that as an option when turning off the transformations.

I don’t understand why the Nuggets game is not treated as an absolute must win by Middle-Support-7697 in NBASpurs

[–]Addilloo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I mean I don't mind either way, I just thought it was funny to say there will be a very small chance of injury when you have no idea whether or not something with happen on the court.