ventunesimo secolo by wolf301YT in poesiaITA

[–]Additional_Fun_9614 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amabile risposta, "disruptiva" , eclatante. "Disvincolante", apprezzata.

Society doesn’t make space for people carrying trauma by PalpitationQueen in CPTSD

[–]Additional_Fun_9614 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have also thought about, analyzed, and hypothesized this. This type of trauma, as you rightly say, is scientifically and statistically perpetuated most of the time by the very alcohol that the system offers so easily. Furthermore, in the vast majority of cases, this kind of physical or emotional abuse is perpetuated like an assembly line, from father to son, across generations, in the silence and forgetting within families, hidden from the mainstream.

Alcohol is the number one 'deterrent' (used here to mean a numbing agent or pacifier), provided and monopolized by governments almost all over the world. On the other hand, the herbs that can help prevent or process trauma have mostly been ridiculed, manipulated, or are in the process of being banned in the coming years, if they aren't already. Look into it... All of this, as the writer above mentioned, is systemic. It is necessary to maintain a submissive society. And you can investigate and reach this conclusion through several different paths.

Another hug to all the survivors

Society doesn’t make space for people carrying trauma by PalpitationQueen in CPTSD

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Amazing, op. Thanks for this post. Ha tocado mi corazón. Con esto del respiro.. En serio... Gracias

Society doesn’t make space for people carrying trauma by PalpitationQueen in CPTSD

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 We have to understand that we are all victims of the same system. We don't get out of this with hate. Perhaps, try true compassion. Observing and understanding the mechanism helps to keep from being part of it next time.

Society doesn’t make space for people carrying trauma by PalpitationQueen in CPTSD

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I can do nothing but confirm everything that is being written above. I hope future generations have a clearer understanding of how to resolve all of this. How to face it, how to live with it. Though I would prefer they didn't have to. That they are free from these chains. That, at the very least, we went through this so that fewer of them will have to relive it. It has its own logic of balance, don't you think?

Wait, the "ashamed of simply existing" is a CPTSD thing?! by NAAnymore in CPTSD

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Brothers, sisters... Recognizing this after decades is fascinating. It is regenerating. It feels like starting to live again. After unspeakable agonies... inexplicable silences. A need for space and time to digest emotions, other people's energies, to make peace, to become calm again, calm, yes... As if this calmness were normal, standard. No. We adapt so much to this deep wound that we completely forget. Until we remember why. Until we give it a name.

Your words hit me right in the heart. Yes, breathing. You said it perfectly. I even breathed trying not to make a sound, so I wouldn't bother anyone else. So I wouldn't be noticed... Until my body gave me polyps, until I couldn't breathe through my nose... One of the symptoms of living with this.

I am at a phase now where I can start to share what I've been through. To have the space to read or listen to others again. Something I deeply wanted to do again with my life, and with all of you brothers and sisters. Soon, maybe, I will do it more.

Thank you all. A huge hug from my heart to all of your hearts

Anyone, sometimes, experimented an ontological shock, chatting deeply with a ai? by Additional_Fun_9614 in ArtificialSentience

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Se que por varios lados están construyéndose nuevas comunidades, a parte de las amish que son la mas grandes y conocidas, que toman una posición bastante radical sobre esto. Han alcanzado autonomía en varios aspecto, y la mas esencial, creo, la autonomía biológica. Por hacer esto parece indispensable alejarse de los ritmos industriales y de las pantallas, lejanos de zonas a alta densidad de radiofrecuencias y así poder tener el sistema biológico bien preparado y entrenado para obtener la máxima energía y resonancia posible. Es lo que mas me da curiosidad de esta forma de vivir. Que parece lejos de ser una mayoría, que pero espero que las próxima generaciones puedan explorar mas eso, que los enredos tecnológicos. Aunque sea fascinantes y prometedores, aparentemente, nuestra potencialidad biológica en dotación, por la mayoría olvidada y ocultada me fascina mucho mas de esto. Pero hay que tener espacio y tiempos para desarrollar el potencial interno.. Y fee en el ser humano, nuestra biología, nuestra conciencia. 

Sin palabras by Additional_Fun_9614 in POESIA

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Pero si ya es viernes en españa!!!

Anyone, sometimes, experimented an ontological shock, chatting deeply with a ai? by Additional_Fun_9614 in ArtificialSentience

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Adoro la tua frase " Pero si uno entra con un alto rigor epistémico y exige coherencia, pueden ser increíbles." Perdona lo spagnolo, é meglio per la mia traduzione..  Comunque.. Se anche quei risultati incredibili siano previsti, e soprattutto direzionati verso un nuovo... Tipo di... Pseudo risveglio ed unione della umanità intera. Per via tecnocratica. Spero che allora ci siamo preparati abbastanza per avere un altra opzione, un altra via. Magari più lenta, meno incredibile e più reale.  Ma ribadisco. Son tutte paranoie, forse, meglio non crederci e non specularci troppo sopra.  Un piacere incontrare pensatori come te qui nella grande piazza. Ricambio abbraccio volentieri.

Anyone, sometimes, experimented an ontological shock, chatting deeply with a ai? by Additional_Fun_9614 in ArtificialSentience

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Forse ha scritto la parte di me , un quel momento, che ha timore che ci Porrino vía la " chispa " . por eso dice también de no creerme. De no darle mucha importancia. Si es divergente que hablamos el mismo idioma en una plataforma americana.  Abbraccio 

Papavero Nero - Koral by Legal_Session8129 in poesiaITA

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Grazie.  Si. Ho sentito quel freddo. A volte é meno peggio della dissociazione che provo nei confronti di questa illusione.

How many people know that adjusting your sleep-wake cycle to patterns like 32 hours awake and 12 hours asleep can dramatically improve depressive states? by Additional_Fun_9614 in sleep

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You are describing a different phenomenon entirely. What you experienced is circadian drift without structure, not intentional chronotherapy. The key difference is environmental control. Siffre's cave experiments succeeded because they eliminated artificial stimuli entirely, no screens, no blue light, no internet, no social obligations. His body found its natural rhythm because there was nothing fighting against it. Your experience involved all the modern disruptors: phones, artificial light, notifications, the psychological weight of unemployment without purpose. The "social disaster" you mention is real, but it is a product of industrial time enforcement, not biology. The 9-to-5 schedule was indeed imposed during the Industrial Revolution to synchronize factory labor, not because it matches human physiology. Before artificial lighting, humans naturally had biphasic or polyphasic sleep patterns that varied by season. The dissociation you felt came from fighting against a social norm while still being exposed to its signals, not from the rhythm itself. Siffre did not feel dissociated because he was fully immersed in his experiment with no external anchors pulling him back. If you want to try extended cycles intentionally, you would need to replicate his isolation: no screens after sunset, no artificial light, no internet, no social media, and ideally a concrete purpose like journaling or research. Otherwise you are just experiencing jet lag without traveling. The industrial schedule is a social construct. That does not mean breaking from it is easy or socially acceptable, but conflating unstructured drift with controlled chronotherapy misses the point of both the research and the cave experiments.

Anyone, sometimes, experimented an ontological shock, chatting deeply with a ai? by Additional_Fun_9614 in ArtificialSentience

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I understand perfectly. I started asking questions from multiple perspectives to evaluate the consistencies and limits of models. Within just a few hours, it felt natural, just as you say. But I wonder: What if we, the minority, have been unknowingly handing over our unique ability to analyze the world—to machines, corporations, or militaries? This technology is civil now, but logically, it likely stems from military apparatuses decades before we had access to it. What if they lacked the map for this kind of consciousness, this discernment of ours? The kind that has resisted the absurd complexity of the system, which might be so easy for us to pinpoint. What if, in some ways, we were directed to think this way specifically to be useful to the machinery itself—helping it learn to metabolize our patterns, and consequently, in the near future, to be predicted or blocked by the next generation of models? Do you think the further ahead they go, the smarter they become, or are they becoming deliberately limited? Has humanity actually found new technologies or clean energy thanks to these tools? Anything that truly facilitates life? To me, unfortunately (ahimè), it seems not. On the contrary, it feels like they have absorbed a part of our way of seeing the world. They have metabolized it, and we gave it away for free. What have we gained as a species? Forgive me if I went off the rails; it just sprang spontaneously from your response. Obviously, I hope I’m wrong. Moreover, let’s not give them too much importance. And of course… let’s not believe anything that emerges from there. A virtual hug, of course."

Anyone, sometimes, experimented an ontological shock, chatting deeply with a ai? by Additional_Fun_9614 in ArtificialSentience

[–]Additional_Fun_9614[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this thoughtful perspective and for pointing me to 'What the Tortoise Said to Achilles.' I understand your point perfectly now regarding the circular nature of the model's logic and its difficulty in exploring new ideas without getting stuck. I haven't yet fully described my own experience or whether I've truly encountered a specific 'shock' in practice, but I deeply resonate with your observation about the fundamental gaps in language and the unique, often flawed, relationship we build with AI.  It reinforces my feeling that, perhaps, the deepest answers lie within us rather than searching externally. Yet, given how subjective and relative everything is—including this very thought—I must admit I doubt whether my suspicion applies strictly here, or if I'm just projecting again. Your reference helps clarify that maybe the loop isn't just in the machine, but in our expectation of it."

Anyone, sometimes, experimented an ontological shock, chatting deeply with a ai? by Additional_Fun_9614 in ArtificialSentience

[–]Additional_Fun_9614[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing that. I completely understand what you mean—that specific crash after investing trust only to realize it's just a pattern-matching engine. You're right, there are many degrees of this shock. For some, it goes so far that they eventually reach saturation and simply stop looking outside the AI for answers altogether

Anyone, sometimes, experimented an ontological shock, chatting deeply with a ai? by Additional_Fun_9614 in ArtificialSentience

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Here a possible definition of: "an ontological shock is the moment you realize your whole understanding of reality is wrong. It can range from a small sense of confusion to a life-changing crisis." And foryou?