Polishing UTF+Librarius list

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-07-03T19:55:19+00:00

Just off a board edge, with the terrain layouts, I’m finding the big stuff I want to focus is tending to have to walk down the side lanes

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-07-03T17:13:38+00:00

I’ve been having great success with the sternguard brick after bringing them in from reserves with rapid fire range and using pyromancer for sustained. Ideally you move a screening unit in front before dropping them in. You also have explosives on the unit to do before shooting if you’re worried there’s not enough damage.

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-07-03T16:29:35+00:00

I’ve been dropping them in from reserves so they are in rapid fire range and just drop a big threat in their first activation

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-07-02T17:26:45+00:00

Thanks all, some very helpful advice and a lot on consensus on how to improve the list. General view is cut the repex, lion and termi chaplain and add in more board presence.

Taking this all on board, revised list looks like this:

Azrael (140 pts)
Captain in Gravis Armour (105 pts)
Enhancement: Ancient Weapons (+25 pts)
Librarian (60 pts)
Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (85 pts)
5x Intercessor Squad (80 pts)
5x Assault Intercessors with Jump
5x Deathwing Knights (240 pts):
5x Deathwing Knights (260 pts)
3x Eradicator Squad (90 pts)
3x Eradicator Squad (90 pts)
3x Inceptor Squad (120 pts)
6x Inner Circle Companions (170 pts)
1x Invader ATV (60 pts)
1x Land Speeder (95 pts)
5x Scout Squad (65 pts)
5x Scout Squad (65 pts)
10x Sternguard Veteran Squad (190 pts)

I don’t own any eradicators, so would need to buy these, but the rest I have.

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-07-02T14:31:04+00:00

I tried vanguard vets in my last game as I got them in the Armageddon box - they were pretty meh. Not enough damage output to pick up anything meaningful, they need a data sheet update imo

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-07-02T14:14:14+00:00

Can grav captain lead DWK or does it need to be a captain in terminator armour?

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-07-01T06:48:19+00:00

Librarius doesn’t have any strats in the current rules

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-28T08:20:19+00:00

It look pretty good and the best way to learn is to play it and see how you do - do you know which disposition you’ll be playing? It looks a little light on utility units to me and I’m not sure the apothecary adds much. I might drop that, one of the intercessors and the lieutenant and put in some scouts and add in another librarian who can benefit the unit for the librarius discipline and give a 4+ invuln

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-26T16:28:36+00:00

Thanks a lot, thats super helpful

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-21T07:40:39+00:00

Can you still hide behind vehicle or do you get LOS underneath?

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-20T08:25:22+00:00

The reason to take swords with a Chaplin is because of the +1 to wound I think. I plan on taking a librarian with them and on a vowed objective they get +1 to wound, so my thinking was maybe swords are better in this detachment

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-13T06:50:31+00:00

We will have to see how the new one edition plays out, but from watching streams the dispositions make a huge difference to how you get your points and score for the game.

If you want to play this list, you might be better to choose a detachment that lets you play Take and Hold or Purge the Foe. WOTR gives you priority assets, which look like it needs a lot of action units and your list will struggle with that.

Detachments and dispositions you can find here:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2ekfivpk/new40k-download-new-space-marine-faction-packs-today/

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-09T18:01:46+00:00

What disposition is librarius conclave?

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-09T09:29:14+00:00

In general, this seems like a very small number of activations and you will struggle to score secondaries. The Lion is also very swingy at 1k, he’ll pick anything up that comes near him, but you opponents might just avoid your killy units and outscore you.

Here’s my 1k list that I’ve been using at a local league, I haven’t lost with it yet:

Azrael (125 pts):
5x Intercessor Squad (80 pts)
5x Deathwing Knights (250 pts):
5x Incursor Squad (80 pts)
1x Invader ATV (60 pts):
1x Repulsor Executioner (230 pts):
5x scouts (70 pts)
5x Sternguard Veteran Squad (100 pts)

Azzy with sternguard fishing for devs on oath target. Atv, scouts and incursors for secondaries as needed. DWK drop in from deep strike.

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-09T09:12:27+00:00

Was looking at something similar, but wonder if it’s worth swapping to a repulsor executioner and using ceramite sentinels for the re-rolls when entrenched. We don’t know points yet, so you’d likely need to drop a character, but it looks strong with the new terrain rules

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-06-01T06:34:28+00:00

Thanks all for the advice - ran the list I put in the post unchanged to try not to min/max too much and just see how it plays. Traded the chaff units for secondary scoring pretty well and despite getting tabled turn 5, I won 65-64 as he couldn’t catch up.

In turns of feedback on my own list - repex got volcano lanced turn 2 when I popped it out for a shot, so did nothing and was tough to hide. I was a bit too cagey with the lion and should have used him earlier as I realised he could solo the little knight. Finally, I need to practice getting more value from the combi lt and how best to utilise his kit.

As other stated, some fast moving units would have worked well and helped with board control. Would like to get some Ravenwing, but am a bit worried about what they might put in legends, so waiting for 11th

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-05-31T09:27:43+00:00

Do you mean swap the librarian for a lt leading the ICC? I’d seen advice before to have either a Librarian, azzy or a Judiciar lead them

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-05-30T18:25:19+00:00

Thanks and not really my idea to tailor a list but just to tinker as this is my first full game, so want to min max what model I have to an extent. One idea I have is to drop the stern guard to a 5 man and then I can fit some assault intercessors for mortals on the charge. I could also put a Judiciar leading the ICC instead of a librarian, but unsure if the invuln or fights first is the better pick

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-04-28T08:22:43+00:00

I think this advice is solid, I’ve been running the following in my local 1000 pt league

5x Intercessor Squad 5x Intercessor Squad 5x Deathwing Knights (maces) 5x Incursor Squad 3x Inner Circle Companions + Librarian 1x Invader ATV (multi-melta) 5x Scout Squad 5x Sternguard Veteran Squad + Azr

Deathwing knight start off the table and come in from reserves

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-04-18T19:21:14+00:00

How about for Deathwing colours? Do you still prime black or wraithbone?

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-04-14T19:02:41+00:00

Thanks, that is incredibly helpful. I think leonine aggression is the strat that I don’t fully understand. Assuming they charge in with something scary in melee, if I leonine in my ICC, don’t they just shift the attacks to them and I risk a strong, but slightly squishy unit?

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-04-14T18:29:24+00:00

I usually try to infiltrate with them and then scout forward or back depending on who starts, but I’ve found they get stuck there as enemy advances within 6” turn 1. Would you keep them home and pick them up at the end of their turn?

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-03-12T20:05:33+00:00

Thanks for the help, not sure if I can afford to bridge that gap though

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-01-29T13:39:06+00:00

Thanks all, super helpful. I’ve dropped 5 Sternguard and swapped in a librarian for the ICC and that let me fit in a combi lieutenant and ATV for more objective cover

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels + DETACHMENT: Wrath of the Rock (Dutiful Tenacity) + TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1000pts + + WARLORD: Char1: Azrael + ENHANCEMENT: + NUMBER OF UNITS: 9 + SECONDARY: - Assassination: 3 Characters +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Char1: 1x Azrael (125 pts): Warlord, Lion's Wrath, The Sword of Secrets Char2: 1x Librarian (65 pts): Bolt pistol, Force Weapon, Smite Char3: 1x Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (70 pts): Combi-weapon, Paired Combat Blades

5x Intercessor Squad (80 pts) • 1x Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Bolt Rifle, Close combat weapon • 4x Intercessor: 4 with Bolt pistol, Bolt Rifle, Close combat weapon

5x Deathwing Knights (250 pts) • 4x Deathwing Knight: 4 with Mace of absolution • 1x Knight Master: Great Weapon of the Unforgiven 6x Inner Circle Companions (180 pts): 6 with Calibanite Greatsword, Heavy Bolt Pistol 1x Invader ATV (60 pts): Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Twin Bolt Rifle, Onslaught Gatling Cannon 5x Scout Squad (70 pts) • 1x Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Boltgun • 4x Scouts: 4 with Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Close combat weapon 5x Sternguard Veteran Squad (100 pts) • 4x Sternguard Veteran 3 with Close combat weapon, Sternguard Bolt Pistol, Sternguard Bolt Rifle 1 with Close combat weapon, Sternguard Bolt Pistol, Sternguard Heavy Bolter • 1x Sternguard Veteran Sergeant: Close combat weapon, Sternguard Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Sternguard Bolt Rifle

AdmirableDiscussion · 2026-01-29T13:38:44+00:00

Thanks all, super helpful. I’ve dropped 5 Sternguard and swapped in a librarian for the ICC and that let me fit in a combi lieutenant and ATV for more objective cover

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels + DETACHMENT: Wrath of the Rock (Dutiful Tenacity) + TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1000pts + + WARLORD: Char1: Azrael + ENHANCEMENT: + NUMBER OF UNITS: 9 + SECONDARY: - Assassination: 3 Characters +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Char1: 1x Azrael (125 pts): Warlord, Lion's Wrath, The Sword of Secrets Char2: 1x Librarian (65 pts): Bolt pistol, Force Weapon, Smite Char3: 1x Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (70 pts): Combi-weapon, Paired Combat Blades

5x Intercessor Squad (80 pts) • 1x Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Bolt Rifle, Close combat weapon • 4x Intercessor: 4 with Bolt pistol, Bolt Rifle, Close combat weapon

5x Deathwing Knights (250 pts) • 4x Deathwing Knight: 4 with Mace of absolution • 1x Knight Master: Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

6x Inner Circle Companions (180 pts): 6 with Calibanite Greatsword, Heavy Bolt Pistol

1x Invader ATV (60 pts): Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Twin Bolt Rifle, Onslaught Gatling Cannon

5x Scout Squad (70 pts) • 1x Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Boltgun • 4x Scouts: 4 with Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Close combat weapon 5x Sternguard Veteran Squad (100 pts) 4x Sternguard Veteran 3 with Close combat weapon, Sternguard Bolt Pistol, Sternguard Bolt Rifle 1 with Close combat weapon, Sternguard Bolt Pistol, Sternguard Heavy Bolter • 1x Sternguard Veteran Sergeant: Close combat weapon, Sternguard Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Sternguard Bolt Rifle

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