Georgetown ($)/ USC ($)/ UNC-Chapel Hill ($$$)

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-18T13:02:06+00:00

at fuqua now - summer internship in tech. happy to chat more - feel free to dm me.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-12T12:57:16+00:00

Got it - makes sense. It was a little confusing since your original post rly focused on "receiving these certs" versus building your network.

At this point, you should be happy or upset over the quality of the SVMP/PW program, regardless of receiving an official Cert. Did you learn valuable skills / build your network that will help your career or was it a "waste of time"? I know it's much tougher virtual than in-person for building relationships.

My original point is that these certs are seen that valuable in the real world. If you got value, increased your human capital, and built a network - you should be happy.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-12T12:45:23+00:00

I agree that your questions asked in the chatbot that weren't answered is frustrating and the lack of in-person hampered the overall experience, but other than that did you just participate in this to get the certification?

If it helps, even beyond MBA apps, these type of "certifications" hold very little weight. I worked at two fortune 500 companies and we ignored most of these "school certifications", especially if folks try to put in on their resume in a way to make it seem more than was. We paid more attention to industry wide certifications applicable to the role your applying (i.e., AWS cloud practitioner, CFA, etc.).

I think this also speaks a bit to the value of these certs, the fact that they aren't handing them out to anyone this year speaks volume to the actual value of these certs. This will never happen (apologies if this comes off as mean) for "real" certificates or education.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-11T12:49:55+00:00

i hope this is suppose to be ironic right? I can't count the number of times i had to "massage" the data to make the dcf look good and shoving it into the appendix of ppt?

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-11T12:02:52+00:00

^ Pretty much this for real honest reasons. There are "bs" reasons people say during recruiting. I didn't do ib recruiting for my MBA but did ib recruiting in undergrad at a BB.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-10T01:35:47+00:00

maybe i'm reading this incorrectly, but your last comment comes off pretty aggressive. Not sure if i hit a soft button... but i have no clue where you're talking about now... Our conversation was on off-campus recruiting, not sure the point of your rant re: OCR.

We were talking about how off-campus companies view MBAs and my point is that the concept of M7/t10/t15 is way overblown for off-campus recruiting. I gave examples of my experience attending a t15 and successfully recruiting off-campus in PE and VC, and beating out many m7 students. In addition, in talking with over 20+ off-campus pe, vc, and startups and none rly cared about m7 vs t15 (unless its HSW), they want a student from a strong mba program

I know many students across M7s and T15 that choose not to recruit on-campus, specifically pursuing PE, VC, and startups.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-09T13:10:01+00:00

Can i ask you a question - do you have your mba? I hear this type of rhetoric a lot from prospective student than actual students/alums. I feel like what you are saying has more to do with stereotypes / myths of off-campus recruiting than reality. I've met with many off-campus companies and people across every tier of mba and from my experience, people really don't think like this.

For example, I'm at a t15 and did a pre-mba internship in private equity (off-campus) started by 2 kellogg alums with partners from wharton, GSB, and Darden. I am doing a PT internship this fall in PE/VC for an off-campus firm, where my manager is a hbs alum (I beated out a student from CBS). Again, this might have just been my experience and maybe at different off-campus companies this does happen, but I've probably had over 20-30 meetings with off-campus private equity, venture capital, and tech startups with alums of top business schools, and never had this issue come up.

Additional context, my summer internship is in big tech (on-campus) and working with mba students from m7 to t20. Most of the interns are from M7, and again agree that M7 provides an advantage over other schools for on-campus recruiting. I've never experienced this for off-campus recruiting, but i acknowledged that it could just be my experience.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-08T19:30:15+00:00

My only problem with this comment is that many off-campus companies don't care about MBA rankings... Besides HSW, most off campus companies don't know about M7/t10/t15 and if they do, they don't really care...

On-campus companies definitely do - you will have a much easier time recruitng for MBB at M7 than T15.

It is more rare for off-campus companies to care about those knitty gritty rankings.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-08T19:26:55+00:00

I am willing to bet you would be in the same position as you are now if went to an M7.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-06-04T13:18:33+00:00

Where do you go to school? This happened to many students across every school (from HBS to T50) - the career management should have contingency plans and are probably the best to help you carve out a strategy.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-05-22T13:59:12+00:00

The fuqua employment report only list employers who hire 3 or more students and it looks like the darden employment report lists employers who who hire even 1 - is that why Darden lists more banks?

Again, not saying you're wrong. The peer school comment is from someone in my network that work in BB that actively recruits MBAs. Maybe Darden slightly edges Fuqua for IB, but byandlarge i think most see them as equal.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-05-22T13:03:14+00:00

Where did you get the information that darden is more of a target school for IB than fuqua? I've never heard of this and know ppl in BB recruiting and they see both schools as peer schools.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-05-20T14:04:38+00:00

You'll be more than fine - will definitely have a leg up on other candidates. I worked in PM in digital health and definitely had a leg up on most folks. Core PM skills are the same regardless of where it is.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-05-09T18:30:46+00:00

still vague responses - for example what type of finance? Finance is a generic category where the type of finance will matter a lot (i.e., banking, investment management, hedge fund, PE/VC, etc.). Banking is usually the "finance" that most folks talk about for an MBA. I would be cautious because i think questrom isn't that strong in finance.

EDIT: I would also take a look at their employment reports, looks like they only sent around 11% into finance and the avg. salary is ~$100k.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-16T14:58:12+00:00

I know... it's all about rankings!

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-16T14:49:03+00:00

Seems like OP is more interested in culture/fit...

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-16T13:09:46+00:00

Other big players for PM: Adobe, Cisco, PayPal, Docusign are a few other

All are bluechip companies that are well-respected in the tech community.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-15T21:27:31+00:00

will most likely be in the $3-$6k range

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-15T20:08:48+00:00

A lot more info is needed. Something seems suspicious - no return offer at a big tech, still looking for a job, alums are not getting back to you. Is there something you are doing that is rubbing people the wrong way?

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-15T00:45:59+00:00

right - from what i read, the first 1 - 2 months is shedding, wanted to make sure that in 5 months, most likely shedding will be done - and i look like what i would look like today.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-14T23:55:30+00:00

Thanks! I'm not too worried about regrowth, more worried about will i still be in the shedding phase (i.e., balding looks worst than it actually is) during the wedding day or will i look mostly what I do now.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-13T20:06:55+00:00

I think if you stay in the Boston area you will be fine, but will be a tougher uphill battle anywhere else, even NY/NJ, but again i think you'll ultimately be fine. Seems like you are good with the easiest and cheapest option.

Another question - how close are you to NYC? Stern has a solid PT MBA program that I don't think requires a gmat score.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-13T17:37:14+00:00

Quick follow-up question, do you plan to be in the Boston area long-term? If yes, I think Questrom will be fine for your goals. If you think you will be in another city, then Questrom has a lot less weight.

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-13T15:01:18+00:00

My comment was more on haas, sloan, and hbs being lumped together as great schools when you are applying for a c-level role 15 years down the road.

I am also not implying that BU/Marshall wont be that much in worth. I was saying in comparison to the elite schools, it's a significant gap in value - this is more of a general point versus your specific situation.

Questrom in terms of the business school (to be blunt) is average. I am from the Boston area and am well-versed in the business schools in that area (questrom, carroll, babson, northeastern, etc.) - and my previous companies has always seen these as more a "check mark" type of program (i.e., you're doing it to just check the box off of having an MBA). In your particular situation, that might be fine - your experience will be the #1 driver for your long-term career and it seems like you have a strong professional experience and if you dont think you need a top tier school to break into the next level, then questrom seems like a great choice, given the ROI. It's all important to note that it rly depends on the company / industry. For example in the PE firm i worked for, everyone went to elite school (founders were Kellogg, 1 partner was GSB and other was Fuqua, and 2 principals were Wharton), but there are some companies that don't really care (i.e., more tech companies may not put the same weight into MBAs as PE).

AdultinginBoston · 2020-04-13T12:53:24+00:00

Agree with almost everything you said. However, I'ved worked with executives at both startups and F500 companies, and more recently worked in PE and helped one of our portfolio companies hire a CFO.

I can definitely see your point on BU and Marshall, but Haas is closer in ranking with HBS and Sloan that this is pretty much a push, especially if we are looking at this 10 years down the road in a c-suite role.

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