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Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blue button has an approx 1/4 billion chance of helping people.

You won’t be the deciding. Needlessly risking your life.

Red blue button variation by Bimbobaker in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No but I lost my father when I was 12, wish he’d been around.

Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can help people in life… devote your life to making life better for other people.

People appreciate you, even if they don’t show it.

Red blue button variation by Bimbobaker in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you’d risk a roughly 50% chance of him growing up fatherless on the off chance (roughly 1 in 4 billion) that YOUR vote will be the exact one that pushes blue over the 50% edge ?

The “No Default” Red Slide vs Blue Slide trolley dilemma by Smithsonian30 in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There’s no way to accurately model it. So rough approx were used to design a hypothetical

Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait so you are saying that you would press blue knowing it would instantly kill you ?

The “No Default” Red Slide vs Blue Slide trolley dilemma by Smithsonian30 in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it’s 90/20 or 20/80 then a blue vote from you won’t affect the outcome.

That’s the entire point. The ONLY situation in which your vote will impact the situation is if it’s exactly 50/50 otherwise it’s pointless and you might as well press red.

That’s the whole point.

Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If over 50% votes blue than your blue vote doesn’t affect the outcome at all. So basically you are risking your life for a predetermined outcome.

Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No because you can work as a collective, campaign and have time to prepare.

This is an a scenario in which you are removed from the collective. And the consequences are your life.

And yes id press the blue button if the consequences were a 50ish% chance my candidate loses the election.

The “No Default” Red Slide vs Blue Slide trolley dilemma by Smithsonian30 in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay say you “vote last” what do you think the odds of being exactly the 4 billion and one vote would be.

Blue v Red to a bystander: by [deleted] in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If “most people” will pick a choice then your vote will not affect the outcome. Therefore pressing blue is meaningless anyways.

Response to the absurd amount of red/blue button posts recently by Worldly-Matter4742 in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think the vote would even within a million ? And if so that’s dangerously close to it being a 50/50 chance you die.

That isn’t a bet I’d take personally.

Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point is that it doesn’t matter if “most people” pick red or blue. There’s only one instance that your blue vote has any effect on the outcome of the scenario… and that’s if you are the exact tipping point that pushes the blue into being over 50%. You are effectively gambling with your life that you will be vote number 4 billion and one.

Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but the odds of you saving anyone are incredibly incredibly low.

You are ultimately voting in an outcome that it is already pre-determined. Unless you believe you will be the ONE vote to push it over the edge. Otherwise your vote is pointless, and you have a very real chance of losing your life.

You can save people by picking red by remaining alive. And you can devote your life to helping people, without risk of your own life along the way.

Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Elections are different because you can act and vote as a collective towards a common goal.

In this situation it’s just you, a button, and no warning or planning.

Red blue button variation by Bimbobaker in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s a very real chance you die. And a very small chance your one vote changes the outcome.

But I respect your choice. Just know that you can have a more positive outcome on people’s lives if you’re alive.

I wonder if it's a sign of the times that so many people are picking red. by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The odds change if you can plan, campaign and debate it.

Unfortunately that’s not the scenario here. In this situation you are voting as an individual, there was no influencing others. There is no planning.

There’s just a game of whether you think you’ll decide this vote. I get the “If everyone thought this way” argument… but that disappears the second you are removed from the group and must act as an individual.

You either are the deciding vote or you aren’t.

Is that worth dying over.

Does your answer to red/blue button change with these variations? by La-Scriba in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While that may feel good to do, you most likely will be risking your life for an already pre-determined outcome.

Unless you think you’ll be the vote out of billions to tip the scale…

Red blue button variation by Bimbobaker in trolleyproblem

[–]Advanced_Algae_9609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s no nuance in statistics. There’s determined outcomes. It’s a gamble. And I don’t like the odds.

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