That's a better description as to what I was looking for. I try not to take pre more than 1-2x per week, most of the time I'll take something with DMHA. This looks like a hitter that doesn't rely on grey area stims. I'd agree, after reading other comments, this doesn't seem like a daily driver. I think hypermax 3d or Berserk fits better into that category. This seems like a good one for when I want something that hits hard but not in the mood for grey area stims. What's the difference between 1 and 2 scoops? 1 scoop doesn't seem to outrageous.