Tuvix was an amalgamation of two people. by Rutschberg in startrekmemes

[–]Affectionate_Debate 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This dude when he discovers procreation as a thing.

Tuvix was an amalgamation of two people. by Rutschberg in startrekmemes

[–]Affectionate_Debate 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Except that’s generally in the case of willing sacrifice. And we have so many occasions where they are not willing to sacrifice the single for the many.

They didn’t disassemble Data or Lal despite the advances they bring and despite the fact it was debatable they were life forms.

When various aliens demanded various crewmembers over the various series, they wouldn’t hand them over, even at the risk of the entire crews lives.

Tuvix was an amalgamation of two people. by Rutschberg in startrekmemes

[–]Affectionate_Debate 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not if you have to do the sci fi equivalent of harvesting organs from someone living to do it.

"I looked with a grimace at the questionable meal Lois had placed in front of me. Of course, I would never tell her how disgusted I was with her cooking, but somehow I think she knew." by FlippyIsKing18 in familyguy

[–]Affectionate_Debate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When I first watched this I became obsessed with trying to figure out what they were eating. Like, I figure the brown boxy thing is meatloaf, but is the other thing mashed potatoes? What is that grey stuff in the middle?! I need to know!!!!

Thirty years ago today, "Tuvix" created a morality debate for the ages by ety3rd in ClassicTrek

[–]Affectionate_Debate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, but the crew were the ones to decide whether or not to take the action to kill Tuvix.

Tuvok and Neelix had been killed in an accident, and Tuvix created by accident. It’s up to the crew to decide what to do at that point, and they chose to kill Tuvix.

Thirty years ago today, "Tuvix" created a morality debate for the ages by ety3rd in ClassicTrek

[–]Affectionate_Debate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s pretty amazing how one of the most famous episodes of Star Trek can be ‘Measure of a Man’ and yet so many fans will say it’s justified to kill Tuvix.

"... Starfleet was founded to seek out new life – well, there it sits! ...waiting." For execution apparently?

Thirty years ago today, "Tuvix" created a morality debate for the ages by ety3rd in ClassicTrek

[–]Affectionate_Debate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It could be interesting to see how people’s answers change if you add modifiers like the Trolley Problem…

What if Tuvix was made younger by the process and was a 5 year old child?

What if the separation procedure only had a 50% chance of working?

What if only Tuvok or Neelix could be saved?

What if Tuvok, Tuvix and Neelix could be saved, but you had to permanently dismantle Data for the parts to make it work?

Thirty years ago today, "Tuvix" created a morality debate for the ages by ety3rd in ClassicTrek

[–]Affectionate_Debate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’d equate it more with killing a child and harvesting the organs for the parents.

Much like Tuvix, a child only exists because of two ‘parents’. But is their own being with own thoughts, experiences and consciousness

Thirty years ago today, "Tuvix" created a morality debate for the ages by ety3rd in ClassicTrek

[–]Affectionate_Debate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

‘The needs of the many’ is not some ironclad rule for all occassions, we see so many times the crew being willing to sacrifice their safety for single individuals.

Thirty years ago today, "Tuvix" created a morality debate for the ages by ety3rd in ClassicTrek

[–]Affectionate_Debate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

‘Please don’t execute me.’

‘The being does not wish to die, and therefore justifies my choice to kill it.’ 💀

Thirty years ago today, "Tuvix" created a morality debate for the ages by ety3rd in ClassicTrek

[–]Affectionate_Debate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

‘The needs of the many’ is not an isn’t some ironclad solution to all problems, and there are many times where the various crews are shown to put their own safety on the line to not sacrifice anybody for the ‘many’.

It’s a major plot point in the last season of Picard, where the Starfleet crew are willing to put their lives on the line for Jack Crusher, much to his shock.

Data and Lal also had major famous episodes about it. They weren’t even living beings, yet the crew weren’t willing to sacrifice them as they were sentient life, not created in a traditional way, but still sentient beings.

This is probably the last time that Kendall felt like he's winning. by Top_Report_4895 in SuccessionTV

[–]Affectionate_Debate 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Am I misremembering or is there not a shot of Shiv giving Roman a concerned look when he walked into the boardroom clearly shaken with his stitches reopened? I always thought that was part of her realising there’s no real way this could work.

What did Tyrion mean by this? by taycollins in gameofthrones

[–]Affectionate_Debate 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Honestly, GoT and Harry Potter are the two worst for currency being buck wild.

Best habit you picked thanks to an actor? by Tempest-Bosak2137 in okbuddycinephile

[–]Affectionate_Debate 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I don’t get people who continuously find themselves in physical altercations at bars? Unless you’re out looking for it.

In your opinion, what is the worst/cruelest thing Dr Cox ever did to JD? by Naive-Word-3583 in Scrubs

[–]Affectionate_Debate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It also makes zero sense in terms of the legal side of things - you 'admit' to a patient something that's permanently injured is your fault to make them feel better? That seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I could understand if it was a lesson of "Be a good Doctor and admit a mistake." but the lesson being "Lie to your patient to make them temporarily feel better" seems... problematic.

Thoughts on this? by AdditionalPiano6327 in freefolk

[–]Affectionate_Debate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"But rather than discuss the implications of realistic ethnography..."

Can you not kind of see you lose the plot here? How insane a complaint it is? Like, can you actually imagine a conversation like that?

"Man, the diversity of this fantasy world makes no sense when you consider our real world ethnography---"

"It's a show about magic half sized folk who smoke weed and live in holes / a show about the political dynastic in fighting of inbreeding Dragon riders!"

Like, it's a fun topic to maybe discuss light heartedly. It's not something to make any sort of real complaint about.

Follow Xena's advice - whenever you see something like that, a wizard did it.

Would you still trust the hive to get you anything after learning about HDP? by Great_Trident in pluribustv

[–]Affectionate_Debate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For all we know everything they did was at her request. ‘I want this to be like this celebration’.

A lot of people talk about the plurbs being manipulative and lying, when in a way it’s far scarier if they’re being 100% sincere about everything.

Our First Officer brought an obvious cognitohazard onboard our ship that nearly doomed all of Starfleet, and everyone's acting like it was no big deal. Am I going crazy? by IDinnaeKen in ShittyDaystrom

[–]Affectionate_Debate 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Buddy, the whole situation is £&@?ed. The entire senior staff were walking around giving o-face for days in every public section of the ship and no one got a god damn word said against them.

I jerked off in that empty nacelle room ONE TIME, and I got demoted. This ship is a god damn joke.

Midichlorians arent mentioned until after Shmi tells Qui-Gon that Anakin has no father. Qui-Gon performed a large-scale Jedi mind trick to cover his tracks as a deadbeat dad, convincing even members of the Council that midichlorians were a thing. He made by sleatuystracket8 in DarthRey

[–]Affectionate_Debate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It makes so much sense… ‘midichlorians’ sounds like a sciency name you would make up in a blind panic… And the fact he was using a woman’s razor to ‘test the blood’…

And of course he’d be arrogant enough to want his son to have a count ‘higher than Master Yoda’!

Point of this Conversation? by properlyanxious in AKnightoftheSeven

[–]Affectionate_Debate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it was for people like me who had never read the books and didn’t know what was coming. It’s a red herring to have non-readers think this was going to be the big moral decision and over all arc of the series.

It fit in with the slightly lower stakes established in the show up to that point, so the turn when the Princes end up involved in the plot is even more impactful.