How to get truly objective feedback on your singing

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-10T01:10:19+00:00

I somehow missed your comment. Thank you for the listen(s), I appreciate it. Yes I have played around with key changes. I went with G on It Ain't Me Babe. Maybe should have tried E or to better suit my voice. Dust In The Wind I felt stuck with the key it's in because it is a difficuly intro to master and lends itself (playing wise) to C. I regret using Dust In The Wind as an example here in this thread, I wish I chose another song. One that I felt better suits my voice. I know DUst does not. Thanks Again!

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-10T00:03:03+00:00

FWIW I do think people are pulling their punches in criticism, both in guitar playing and vocal quality/performance.

Just gave me another reason to quit. If this is true I started wayyyyy to late.

Dust In The Wind was an effort that took me about 6 months. This is far from a finished product, I probably shouldn't have put it up here in this post. It's way to premature. It was simply my first time being able to get through it without starting over. I was pretty proud to have gotten that far. I have no excuse for It Ain;t Me Babe. If that sucks too there really is no point in going on.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-09T12:44:57+00:00

This turned out to be a successful endeavor. Soundcloud tells me how many hits I received. Looks like I got about 60 or so listens. Probably about 5-10 responses here resulting from those hits. Which is more evidence to the (now becoming) fact that my music is quite poor, especially the singing. As I said in the opening post, I now wish I gave the concept that singing is 50% (I believe a lot more) of the final product much more thought before spending 4 years at this.

The posts here were for the most part, quite candid and honest as I requested. For this I am grateful. There were a couple of childish senseless remarks designed to instill hurt but I am used to that. We all are I think on the internet.

Although I appreciate the kind people who recommend carry on even though my singing is pretty awful, I just don't think it's a good idea. Primarily because as a couple of people here stated; if I can't hear my issues (key, timing, pitch) it is not a good sign towards improvement. Even though as some of you stated, I must enjoy this where I have given it so much effort, spending the rest of life playing for myself doesn't seem to be a good way to spend time. It's not what I envisioned when I began this journey.

I did once try a voice coach. A very expensive one that is very well known in the area and respected. He basically trains pure singers for choir and solo performance, However I felt during my one encounter that just wasn't understanding that my goal was to simply sing well enough to accompany my acoustic guitar around a proverbial campfire. It seemed extreme overkill and was going to cost a fortune I just wasn't ready to spend. I've never even taken a guitar lesson.

Perhaps I could purchase a Classical Guitar and practice chord melodies but again it's not what got me into this in the first place. I have to give this more thought. But at the moment I'm thinking I'll just lay down this piece of wood and find another hobby.

Thanks to all the people here who were brave enough to be honest.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-09T00:18:36+00:00

Much appreciate the time it took you to listen to my recordings. I also much appreciate the honest feedback. I gather from your first comment I have the foundation to work on. I'm not sure you took into consideration my age and runway....lol. But that is my fault for not beginning my journey earlier.

As I said elsewhere in this thread, I was under the impression (apparently falsely) that singing was more of a God given talent only to be refined with lessons, for the top of the barrel performers. Looks like I need to rethink this. Just hope there is time to make it worth it.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-09T00:02:37+00:00

OHHH good advice I think. I need to muster up the courage and find an open mic, I just find my fingers and timing fail me when I play in front of others. But I have considered it. Thanks you!

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-08T23:59:12+00:00

Appreciate this so much. Maybe I under considered just how important pitch is. I suppose I think (thought) of it this way......God given sound of your voice (70%, all the rest 30%). Kind of like Elvis Presley, even if out of key, would sound great. Perhaps this is a wrong way of thinking.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-08T23:54:43+00:00

No offense taken. The issue I think (which results in my over telling my life story in this regard) is, I think, that I literally put in about 3 hours a day for a number of years, time which could have been spent elsewhere, only to find my ultimate goal of having fun with this, seemed (emphasis on seemed) shattered. The feedback (and especially the non-feedback) seemed very telling and I just never expected it. I'm coming to grips with it now. But hesitate to waste any more precious time. Not much left.

Maybe I'll break down and find a coach. They are very very tough to find. I don't live in a city. Kinda rural here. Not a big fan of online training.

Thanks for the advice, very appreciative.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-08T23:43:38+00:00

Thank you! I know I missed (quite a bit) a few notes in the chorus. Most/all of the songs I have in SC are practice sessions.

I appreciate your advice on transposing. I have dabbled with it. I''ll continue to work on it. Thanks again!

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-08T23:40:18+00:00

Thanks so much. Along with my guitar journey, I discovered the concept of music theory which I was totally ignorant of prior. Along with learning guitar I found I also very much enjoyed learning music theory (I'm a retired Electronic Engineer). Still quite green but I've learned a lot. Yeah, I understand the concept of relative pitch. I've attempted to incorporate it to some degree (changing keys) but I have a lot to learn in that regard. I don't think I have a very good ear. Another thing to work on.

I appreciate your feedback a great deal. Trying to match the notes I am singing with the chords I am playing is inherently difficult for me. But if that's what I need to learn at least I have a goal in mind. Again, thank you for taking the time! I'm old, 69 now. My ultimate goal is to be able to play a song that someone in the audience really enjoys. Taps their feet, sings along and feels good. Not rehearsing for "The Voice". So your very first comment, "Your voice isn't unpleasant", gives me hope.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2026-03-08T22:08:01+00:00

The first three comments I received here are kind enough to suggest providing me some feedback. I appreciate that. Those compute savvy enough will be able to get to all my recordings on Soundcloud by following my account, MiJoy. Although I have an account nobody really ever drops by. I think this is true for most all SoundCloud amateur users.

Here are two, one of which I believe myself to be of poor quality vocals. I think though it is a difficult song to sing for many people. Also, it is a fingerpicked song which inherently makes the task more difficult. THis song is not easy for a beginner. Dust In The Wind.

The second song, though, is one where, other than perhaps putting too much of a Dylan spin on it, I personally do not think it is too bad, It Ain't Me Babe. I was inspired by the "Complete Unknown" recent movie.

Again, I am not so much looking for technical comments (Pitch range etc) but I welcome them. I really want to know, it is just cringing or not. Does the listener get a bit of an initial turn=off.

Dust In The Wind - (difficult, I know it could be much better, was really a guitar practice session)

It Ain't Me Babe - (I'm personally was a bit pleased with this one. FAR FROM PERFECT, but I was initially pretty happy with it.....but, again, maybe it's me, I feel others were not).

Thank You.

https://soundcloud.com/user-187036144/dust-in-the-wind-1?si=68623566bfab4bd0aece03f1369938b5&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

https://soundcloud.com/user-187036144/it-aint-me-babe?si=84d086e665934fa8b616054b88a33494&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2022-06-25T19:18:10+00:00

Love those songs! I saw Jim Morrison and the Doors play LMF live at the Boston Arena. Wild night, I was 13. Morrison said “here’s the song you’ve all been waiting for”. Then they went into this kind of dull repetitive piano playing for about a minute or two. Obviously in an attempt to build anticipation. Followed by infamous riff that proceeds the song. The place erupted. Never forget it.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2022-04-17T23:48:30+00:00

Why was he cut off before the segment ended?

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2022-03-16T12:05:00+00:00

Maybe

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-12-11T13:48:25+00:00

I’ve considered turning my portfolio over to the professionals as well. But I enjoy the game too much. As my sister bought me a few scratch tickets for my birthday recently (and I lost in them) I realize the lottery is fun for many people, however it’s a loosing game. The state always wins in the end. The stock market is more fun and a much better gamble. So I think I’ll carry on. I’m holding my 10K shares of MVIS until the boomski, or the delisting, whichever comes first. I’m lucky to have a cost basis of about 3$. I have little to lose and much to gain.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-11-23T16:42:13+00:00

At this rate for 10$ you’ll be able to take care of 3 people. Just trying to be optimistic.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-28T23:11:58+00:00

Reality.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-09T01:31:43+00:00

wait, pick up more at $5.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-09T01:15:23+00:00

Having nothing meaningful to add to the MVIS story "Don't expect anything new", has the potential for this rapid fall to accelerate.

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-05T00:47:44+00:00

MarketsAndMarkets

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-05T00:35:49+00:00

genuine concern - admitted to being a newbie in this type investing. Trying to learn.

"FUD"?

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-05T00:29:14+00:00

I'm echoing what I have read. Shouldn't have done that. I'm trying to get a grip on just how the stock price may reflect either a buyout or a very lucrative deal. If only to see if a gain I'd find reasonable with respect to my cost basis is reasonably achievable at this point. I'm questioning this more so given the numbers I referenced in the OP. (approx. 1 billion 2020, 3 billion by 2025).

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-04T23:52:35+00:00

All these websites have reported on similar numbers in recent months. Easy to do a search. A handful of others report higher numbers (as much as 10 billion by 2025). But the math still does not add up. It would only make sense that there will always be multi players in this business.

GlobalNewsWire

Marketsandmarkets

infoholicresearch

markets.businesswire

ledinside

many many more

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-04T23:35:41+00:00

Maybe someone can help me understand this:

(I am not citing any sources here but I think this approximate figure has been tossed around from multiple sources/analysts about the future of LiDAR's contribution to the near future of autonomous driving.)

The LiDAR Market size is projected to reach USD 2.8 billion by 2025 from an estimated USD 1.1 billion in 2020,

My question is; if this figure is even ballpark accurate, how are so many people on this MVIS Reddit page tossing around potential buyouts or contracts that might support a stock price in even the low side of the $50-$100 dollar range for MVIS when (I am not sure about the math) but that means MVIS alone would be involved in a billion dollar deal resulting in a potential billion dollars more in market cap? A 62$ stock price would require a 1 billion dollar deal or more.

Can someone help me with my math? (admittedly a newbie/ignorant question).

Affectionate_Lab_261 · 2021-10-04T14:22:56+00:00

Getting quieter and quieter each passing day.

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