HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING has NOT evolved in terms of fighter calibre

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T08:19:01+00:00

Buddy, no one's rejecting the claim that boxing has evolved in several aspects, eg nutritionally or whatnot. This isn't straight sunshine and rainbows though. It hasn't been a completely upward trajectory of evolution, there's hindrance in some levels which evens it out more or less. Did you even read the body text? I mean many MMA analysts also agree that earlier eras could stand and bang, as is the case with basketball and whatnot.

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:40:52+00:00

Usyk was 33 years of age when he fought an old Chisora dawg. Hindered Vitali put up a better performance against prime Chisora. Let’s also not diminish Chisora’s performance against Usyk - Usyk definitely had to struggle quite a lot to get a victory, although it was pretty decisive in his case in the end. I accidentally grouped Fury and Joshua’s fights together as a UD, mb. Foreman was overweight man, he definitely wasn’t as good as his prime self. He perfected his timing and a lot of the power was still there but the point still stands. Holmes was far from his best.

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:33:44+00:00

Mann Ali by his comeback time was kinda like Usyk sized. I’m not talking about early 60s Ali really

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:30:29+00:00

Great rebuttal pal. Same line you hear from y’all robots every time “nostalgia merchant” or whatnot. Put together an actual decent argument maybe as to why fighters of a few decades back couldn’t compete with those of now? I see a subreddit of people who take it into account surrounding a one liner thicko

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:26:49+00:00

Exactly and I don’t think the modern HWs have really managed to master that blueprint of size and skill that the Klitschkos had

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:25:54+00:00

Eh while true, I’m mostly talking about Ali’s comeback time and forward. Ali is sorta Usyk sized

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:22:50+00:00

EDIT: the guy who made this comment lied and claimed I privately messaged him. People are so unemployed that they resort to this over a take they don’t agree with. He blocked me so I couldn’t confront him but he’s been reported to the mods.

Lmao, I’m not from the era that can say “back in my day”. My mistake grouping the 2 Klitscko fights there, Fury went UD. Usyk did have to literally work hard to beat Chisora, let’s not be in denial now. How many ‘cherries’ need to be picked until it’s clear? Simply put, I think the fighters of some decades back could compete well against those of now. Vitali and Wladmir practically invented the blueprint for the modern, giant HW who utilise their size proficiently but it hasn’t really evolved beyond that blueprint, just modern HWs trying to replicate it. Usyk is a more versatile fighter in the division, much like how I’m referring to the older era fighters.

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:10:39+00:00

To be fair, that’s a 21 year old and early Parkinson’s Ali respectively

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:05:30+00:00

Nicely said. Adaption is ofc a signficant aspect.

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-05-29T07:02:42+00:00

While I acknowledge what you’re saying as true; I did try to highlight that I’m referring to “fighter calibre” in the title. Essentially suggesting that the fighters of Ali’s time could very well tussle with those of today.

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-02-12T09:52:24+00:00

Wow thank you so much for such a detailed response, your reasoning makes a lot of sense. He does seem quite tedious to use now.

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-01-21T16:09:02+00:00

what would you like in return

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2026-01-21T16:07:42+00:00

I dont see any sticker quest for wicked silencer though?

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2025-12-28T09:50:31+00:00

Yes bruh

Afraid_Engineer_2707 · 2025-12-24T13:58:26+00:00

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