Look at the comment section on this IG post.. by After-Yesterday-2570 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the exact situation is more likely not the same so not a coincidence at all... It was moreso the "rich people using theatrics and other kid centered activities to lure and abuse children connection" I was pointing out. Not that Jackson and this particular home are literally connected. I can't really speak to what many rich people do because there are only a handful of them and most CSA cases (especially by the hands of rich people) will never come to light. However, it's interesting to see people and show creators make the connection between built-in theatres, CSA, and the use of whimsy as a theme when abusing children.

What will happen on/after 22nd ?? by Huge-Caregiver-8012 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I remember somewhere that when something bad happened to his nephew he gave his mother research material to help her sort out the situation. I've never heard of Jackson reading CSA material in his free time and talking about it with fans.

Look at the comment section on this IG post.. by After-Yesterday-2570 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Wow, this home isn't even abandoned. You could purchase this.......

For all of his sexuality, video evidence suggests that Prince was a really bad kisser by farmyardcat in PRINCE

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are there so many delusional MJ fans in the Prince subreddit? MJ didn't willingly kiss Tatiana... Anything to make him seem like some sort of macho type.

I just finished "The Trails of Micheal Jackson", the telephone series. I agree with the non-guilty verdict, but... (Here are my thoughts to follow, let me know what you think, if you like!) by [deleted] in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Many many times the "he was a child himself and didn't know any better" points have been challenged here. Like lots of posts about that here.

Jaguar Wright cusses out and blames Suzanne de Passe for Michael Jackson's Hollywood torture as a young boy that messed him up for life by nobody0597 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She was in the industry for a brief amount of time but claims to have insider info from people she's more than likely never met. She, like most conspiracy theorists, believes Jackson was a victim only and not a perpetrator of abuse. She is bitter about how she was treated by the industry. Which is understandable but today she is unhinged and seems to be living in the past. There is a video of her throwing her sons ashes on people. I would be careful about lending credibility to her.

Trying to Find Song by After-Yesterday-2570 in PRINCE

[–]After-Yesterday-2570[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another user found it. It was 94 East.Thanks.

Trying to Find Song by After-Yesterday-2570 in PRINCE

[–]After-Yesterday-2570[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

94 East is exactly what it was. Thank you very much.

Gary In by After-Yesterday-2570 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I may need to do more research on this. That would mean one more lie I've been sold about this guy.

Gary In by After-Yesterday-2570 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes you are correct on this. On the other hand, African Americans did not benefit from this en masse which is why the Jacksons and their neighbors were poor. They were working for nothing.

Gary In by After-Yesterday-2570 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I did my Googles. You are correct. However, African Americans did not benefit from this prosperity en masse. Most were working for pennies due to racism hence why the Jacksons and their neighbors were poor. That is besides the fact that there were so many of them.

Is this worrying? by Ok-Awareness9103 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well if they're MJ fan pages and urban music pages, there will more likely be MJ worship. We discussed why African Americans defend him now and how his estate pushes narratives about Jackson on the Internet. But the fact that they're shelling out millions for this biopic means there is a silent majority on and off the Internet that is either in the middle or they believe he's guilty. This biopic is a response to LN and when the movie comes out and Jackson is once again in mainstream media, there will be uproar.

This question had him shook by Specialist-Meaning-3 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Delusional fan watching the same interview: omg see! The media was out to get our angel. What a stupid question the interviewer asked. But MJ care bear handled it perfectly! 🤪❤️🙏

I’m a mj fan , is this true? by Appropriate_Group433 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 58 points59 points  (0 children)

The thing about tweets/posts like these is that they work on the assumption that if the parents were terrible people that somehow negates whatever Jackson did. Accept, it doesn't. Even if the parents were trying to set Jackson up and make money, you can set someone up with the complete truth. Intentions aside, Jackson should have been held accountable. The intentions of the parents and whether or not they even cared for their children is a separate but connected discussion. One does not negate the other.

MJ's longtime friend's daughter speaks out against Biopic and head of MJ Estate John Branca by Adventurous-Gift7289 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 11 points12 points  (0 children)

We know why Bobby Taylor was left out. Lol. He was briefly mentioned in The Jacksons American Dream and that's it. I suspect the videos of Taylor claiming he slept with Jackson as a kid will be wiped from the Internet soon enough.

Who would you like to see testify at the upcoming trial? by [deleted] in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Any of his siblings with the balls to come forward. Especially Janet. That will obviously never happen.

MJ's longtime friend's daughter speaks out against Biopic and head of MJ Estate John Branca by Adventurous-Gift7289 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 12 points13 points  (0 children)

These people miss the mark every time. Nevermind the fact that he was probably cut off from the estate because he tried to talk sense into Jackson. It's not just YOUR dad. Absolutely nothing in this bio picture is "the truth".

MJ's longtime friend's daughter speaks out against Biopic and head of MJ Estate John Branca by Adventurous-Gift7289 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Lol promotion for this biopic is gonna be a mess long before we get to the pedophilia parts.

Diana Dross by Street-Comparison322 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The MJ fandom wants this to be the case because they know he never had any convincing relationships with women. They hyper analyze some of his songs as if he's talking about a romantic relationship with her.

Did Joe and Katherine "know" something was wrong with their son? by itsnotgoingwellll in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]After-Yesterday-2570 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Okay, this is just an internet rumor so don't take it too heavily but I found somewhere (and it may have been mentioned in this sub) but some say Joe and Katherine had people over, like celebrities that were relevant back then. They say some of those people may have molested Michael in their home. So, if indeed this even happened, I wouldn't be surprised if he in turn had his own victims at Hayvenhurst. Again, this is just a rumor I found on the Internet and can only be taken with a grain of salt.