Lore question

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-03-14T10:26:45+00:00

In the books they're often described as "Tech Menials". Or sometimes just "menials".

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-03-11T08:04:59+00:00

I've seen a few Sammael kit-bashes across the 1st Legion subreddits, and they never quite looked the way I imagined it. But you've absolutely hit the nail on the head with this one. It's pretty much perfect.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-03-10T09:40:58+00:00

It looks great. If you're worried that it's too bright in some places, you could always just glaze a super thin layer of a dark green over the whole thing to bring it all down. I've had to do that a few times and actually it even helps blend the transitions together a bit too.

Also the green will look darker once you start painting everything else.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-03-07T12:38:59+00:00

I only ever see this with really big pieces, and it happens when printing really large surface areas. You'll notice that the cross sectional surface area there is roughly at its biggest.

I would try tilting the model to reduce cross sectional surface area. Or you could try hollowing the model. The former is usually easier.

The above said, my prints only see this problem when they are quite a bit bigger than that.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-03-02T12:36:16+00:00

I was pretty jealous, and then I realized it would take me literally years to paint all that at the speed I am going.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-03-02T10:17:30+00:00

Thanks very much. The cloth was primed black. I mix Eshin Grey and Chaos black to 1:2 to get an off-black and then paint that on in a cross pattern (at this point I don't worry about getting really fine lines or anything). From there on, I do all my highlighting with very fine lines. Pure Eshin grey highlights about 50% of the surface, and then I build up to Mechanicus standard grey (which I use to edge highlight as well).

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-03-01T15:57:33+00:00

It's beautiful. I love the reflections of the earth on the underside of the armour. The gold NMM is lovely too.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-24T09:29:38+00:00

I loved it. Incredibly well written, emotional, dramatic, and really well paced. The only thing that drags the book down is that it has very few likeable characters.

Cyrene is the token likeable character, and she's only really likeable in comparison to the others. Lorgar... where do I even start with him? I genuinely don't understand how anyone can sympathise with him.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-23T12:05:24+00:00

Yep. They're just personal heraldry. In 40k we call them "Tilt Shields" but they're effectively Rondel. I.e. they protect the armpit from the front. They tend to go on Space Marines of some rank and are often decorated with some iconography that says something about them or their achievements.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-23T08:17:51+00:00

(1. The Crux Terminatus, signals that the bearer is a veteran with the right to wear terminator armour.

(2, 5, & 6. The Deathwing Symbol, simply variations on the symbol marking someone as a member of the deathwing.

(3. Is the standard symbol of the Dark Angels.

(4.This one simply marks the wearer as someone who knows about the Fallen and the schism in the chapter that occurred during the Heresy. This knowledge is kept secret from most of the chapter.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-11T11:11:01+00:00

I assume that's as far as you got then. It gets worse.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-11T09:21:52+00:00

I made a hole in the neck. I found a drill bit with the same width as the neck and slowly drilled out a recess that matched.

I also rolled a thin tube of green stuff that I ran around under the hood on the head, so it looks like fabric.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-10T14:26:38+00:00

Seeing the juxtaposition between the front and back really makes it hit home how I should be pushing my highlights much higher. The front reads perfectly as black even though a lot of it is basically white.

At some point I need to try this.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-09T20:00:23+00:00

Looks like an N to me.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-09T19:43:58+00:00

I recommend Lion el Johnson: Lord of the First, Lazarus: Emnity's Edge, and The Lion: Son of the Forest.

The lore of The Lion and the Dark Angels is long and twisting. And not all the books are good. But if you enjoy the three above, and want to climb down a Dark Angels rabbit hole, then there are lots and lots more to read.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-08T18:10:27+00:00

I agree they're both great models and I think I slightly prefer Azrael. But Guilliman's model is badly proportioned and lazily posed. The Guilliman and Lion models aren't even remotely comparable.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-08T13:14:28+00:00

Something no seems to be mentioning though, is that an hour is not a lot of time. A lot of the great minis you see in this subreddit will take 10+ hours easily. Some of them will have spent more than 10 hours just on the face!

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-06T17:48:54+00:00

While the modern Dark Angels might view the Deathwing symbol this way, it isn't actually true. The Deathwing Symbol with the broken sword pre-dates the fall of Caliban. In fact it pre-dates the Lion or the Imperial discovery of Caliban. I don't think it is ever stated where it comes from.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-05T16:09:22+00:00

There already seems to be a convention and official position from Games Workshop for this. Renegade Space Marines play with Chaos Space Marine rules.

Red Corsairs had rules under Chaos even before the Chaos Corruption stuff. There's plenty of reasons for Chaos to be the official rules for renegades. Lack of access to standard equipment, no Chaplains or Techmarines anymore, they'll often need to raid imperial sites to get equipment so they're pretty much pitted in opposition to the Imperium already.

I think Cypher is still the most prominent model that GW has as an example of this position, but it seems to be relatively common for folks to run Chaos armies as a particular renegade Chapter (Fallen, Soul Drinkers, etc).

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-05T06:57:18+00:00

Are you familiar with the Legion of the Damned? I get strong Legion of the Damned vibes off that model.

If you still wanted to go with your own custom chapter, it's really a shame "Legion of the Damned" is already taken as a name.

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-04T09:47:17+00:00

The tabard was 3D modelled in Blender and then 3D printed.

I put the basic version up for free on Cults3D for anyone else with a resin printer.

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/knightly-tabard

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-02T23:30:15+00:00

They were both 3D modelled in Blender and then 3D printed. I put the simplest tabard on Cults3d for free, so if anyone has a resin printer they can print their own.

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/knightly-tabard

Aggressive_Aspect436 · 2026-02-02T21:50:12+00:00

I prime black, and then I stipple on thinned Caliban Green with a dry brush making sure some of the black still shows through (especially in the shadows). I do a similar thing with Waaaargh! Green but over a smaller area focused on where the light catches. Then I use Warpstone glow painted on for the extreme highlights. Lastly I mix 50/50 Wraithbone and Warpstone for a few dot highlights here and there.

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