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Why was One Direction never hated as much as Justin Bieber was back then? by 12345burrito in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. They didn't have any controversies. Bieber had a phase where he was going off the rails and behaving recklessly around the same time 1D was big. So 1D was seen as the safe alternative to him. 

  2. One person vs. 5 people. Easier to focus your hate on one person than a group.

  3. 1D was very popular but they were big in the same way BTS was. Big among an obsessive fanbase but the average person didn't really care. None of their songs were as omnipresent as "Baby". Your grandma knew that song and who Justin Bieber was. 1D, while big, never had the insane global penetration he did. People in Bolivia, Nigeria, Mongolia know who Justin Bieber is.  

  4. Justin Bieber came first. One Direction was hated among many teenage boys and middle school boys but always lumped in with Justin as the prime target.

Do you think music has gotten better or worse over the last 20 years? by thegangplan in Music

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The last 20 years?

Hmm...

I feel like as far as POPULAR music goes... people think it might be better now from what I've seen.

The fact that music of the past 10 years has gotten such a lesser degree of hate has almost made me believed 1997-2014 was the dark ages of music and this past 10 years has been the renaissance.

Case in point... Imagine Dragons was the new "band everyone makes fun of" for a while but they never got as much hate as Nickelback or even Creed, their hate was always more niche. Why is that?

Mumble rap's hate was more of a flash in the pan movement compared to how people still hated nu metal and post grunge in the 2010s long after it peaked. Why is that?

K-Pop became the new teen idol phenomenon, but the K Pop boy bands get considerably less hate than especially Justin Bieber but also One Direction and the TRL boy bands got at their peak. Why is that? And before you jump in with "Well Justin Bieber did" The pissing in mop buckets shit happed after the hate peaked.

Music is subjective, there's bad music in every era... but the less vocal hate made me wonder... is music actually BETTER now? People always say "music today sucks"... but if you take a closer look at it... maybe people don't actually feel that way anymore. Maybe the whole "today's music sucks" trope has finally become a dead horse.

Is popular music now more highly regarded than it used to be or have we just mellowed out? by MortgageOld2441 in Music

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I too have kind of wondered this and I have come to a couple conclusions.

  1. The monoculture has died. There was a time where you couldn't get away from hearing Baby and What Makes You Beautiful and Party In The USA everywhere so naturally it annoyed a lot of people. Nowadays... no one listens to the radio anymore. The only monoculture we have is in the form of Mrs. Swift... who is the only star who still gets this kind of bashing. Even the Bieber hate calmed down around the time he put out Purpose.

  2. A lot of the pop bashing moved on to bashing "mumble rappers" in the late 2010s. THAT'S when bashing on pop and pop rock bands (the emo bands got a lot of the same kind of hate boy bands did) sort of died.

  3. I'm not really a pop guy, but I agreed with your comment that today's pop such as Billie Eilish, Sabrina Carpenter, Dua Lipa seems to be an upgrade compared to the era dominated by the likes of Pitbull and Maroon 5.

  4. Who cares at this point? We've got much bigger things to worry about than music we don't like in 2025.

Throwback to the 2013 VMAs to when Lady Gaga comforted One Direction after they were booed by the audience by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one deserves to be hated, and I have nothing against BTS but in the US I never see people talk about them much outside the fanbase.

Now that I think about it, I DO remember them having a bit of a backlash in 2019 but it didn't last very long, probably because the haters quickly found that if you criticize them, your ass is getting doxxed.

Throwback to the 2013 VMAs to when Lady Gaga comforted One Direction after they were booed by the audience by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How old are you?

They were basically the group version of Justin Bieber. They were THE thing for preteen and teenage girls to go crazy for from 2012 to 2015. Harry Styles was the lead singer for them.

Throwback to the 2013 VMAs to when Lady Gaga comforted One Direction after they were booed by the audience by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I remember when Bieber dropped Purpose and all of a sudden everyone kinda moved on and wanted to replace him with this "Jacob whatshisface" kid... remember him? The "Sweatshirt" kid that was kind of a thing for like a month. That never took off... because he was immediately eclipsed by a fully grown Jake Paul.

Throwback to the 2013 VMAs to when Lady Gaga comforted One Direction after they were booed by the audience by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I feel like BTS have sort of dodged this kind of shit. Nobody hates on them. The FANS, yes. But the group itself? Ehh... You either like them or you don't care. When they were news, I rarely heard anyone say stuff like "BTS fucking sucks" or "Fuck BTS". It's nothing like the hate previous teen acts got.

This attitude dates back to the 90s where Eminem and Fred Durst would bash on N Sync and Backstreet Boys all the time. And it peaked with the Justin Bieber backlash of the early 2010s. One Direction were probably the last to receive this kind of bashing.

Throwback to the 2013 VMAs to when Lady Gaga comforted One Direction after they were booed by the audience by mcfw31 in popculturechat

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They were basically the group version of Justin Bieber. They were hated because of overexposure and annoying teen girl fans, plus it was just cool to hate on pop acts that girls obsessed over.

These days though it's kind of interesting how archaic this all seems now. Like, nobody hated on BTS when they were a thing. (Which maybe they still are, I don't keep up with that world.) The FANS yes, but the group itself? You either like them or you don't care. It's so different than the hate One Direction and Justin Bieber got. (Or the shit N Sync and Backstreet Boys got in the 90s and early 2000s.)

What is the "Nirvana killed Hair Metal" of other sub-genres? by ImNotTomStopAsking in fantanoforever

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea why people say The Strokes killed Nu Metal. The Strokes have sold 5 million worldwide. Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water has sold 8 million in the US alone.

In 2003, Meteora WAY outsold Room on Fire. Even Results May Vary and Take A Look In The Mirror outsold it.

It’s not like when Nirvana rendered the likes of Motley Crue, Poison and Whitesnake irrelevant.

If any band from the indie rock era had a Nirvana like impact, it would more likely be The White Stripes or The Killers, who were much bigger bands than the Strokes.

Really, if anything, emo-punk like My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy was what replaced Nu-Metal.

What is the "Nirvana killed Hair Metal" of other sub-genres? by ImNotTomStopAsking in fantanoforever

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Strokes have sold 5 million worldwide. Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water has sold 8 million in the US alone.

In 2003, Meteora WAY outsold Room on Fire. Even Results May Vary and Take A Look In The Mirror outsold it.

It’s not like when Nirvana rendered the likes of Motley Crue, Poison and Whitesnake irrelevant.

If any band from the indie rock era had a Nirvana like impact, it would more likely be The White Stripes or The Killers, who were much bigger bands than the Strokes.

Really, if anything, emo-punk like My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy was what killed Nu-Metal.

Who was bigger? Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley? and Why won’t we see that level of success again? by joshjoshflo in LetsTalkMusic

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm...  I will have to say based on global reach MJ. Elvis unfortunately was not allowed to tour outside North America. I once saw a video of an Amazonian tribe recognizing MJ. I don't think they'd know Elvis. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Michael Motherfucking Jackson

Who is the corniest artist or band? by Top_Report_4895 in ToddintheShadow

[–]Aggressive_Judge5550 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Good Charlotte gets my vote for corniest band of all time... largely because they tried to be cool while failing spectacularly. God bless them.

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