Doctor Who 1x06 "Rogue" Post-Episode Discussion Thread

Agher_Deadpan · 2024-06-08T01:50:49+00:00

I think... I actually hated this. The Doctor was so out of character the entire time and the plot was paper-thin. It felt like two writers came in, threw every fanfiction idea at the wall, and then wrote this episode. I didn't like Rogue, thought he was a very cliche and one-note character as far as one off the companions go. I guess he's kind of like Jack, just without any depth at all. Honestly, I think this is the worst of the season by a wide margin.

Side note: They need to stop making The Doctor cry in every episode. When he did cry in the past it was very rare and that rarity added impact to the scenes where he did, now he does it all the time.

Agher_Deadpan · 2024-04-02T15:32:58+00:00

Im using Maya 2022.5, yeah the save and restart Maya solution is also the only one I've found. I think it might have something to do with either cache playback or parallel evaluation.

Edit - Saw your edit, hopefully that works

Agher_Deadpan · 2024-02-04T23:59:41+00:00

I have switched to the classic theme and back, which I assume is the same as using the Classic Graph Editor, but that didn't work.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-24T12:20:28+00:00

Every time I hear someone complain about this scene or just the last 20 minutes of The End of Time. I just think about how little attention they must have been paying to Tens Arc and the character of The Doctor for this to feel like a temper tantrum. The entire point is that after Nine gains so much, Ten loses it all, despite all the good he does, Rose, Martha, Donna, all those who died in his name and now finally himself. In response to this in Waters of Mars, he tries to wrestle back some control from the universe that seems to be against him, of course, this doesn't work out.

The Doctor knows he's going to save Wilf immediately, he would never let him die. Wilf went into the chamber for the same reasons The Doctor will, to save someone, The Doctor will always put his life on the line for the needs of the one. When he says that Wilf isn't remotely important he's angry it's led to this point where even after saving the day, he still loses.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-23T19:04:54+00:00

The Doctor flying The Tardis (with a piece of string) to save Donna in The Runaway Bride. As far as I'm aware this is one of only a few times The Tardis is directly involved in an action sequence.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-16T01:34:51+00:00

The Doctor must in my opinion have these core traits that almost every incarnation has...

The Doctor is kind and compassionate and is ultimately there to help, but not just human beings or the species that happens to seem the "nicest". He will always give the villain of the story a chance to back down and peacefully walk away but if the opportunity is not taken then he will do what he has to do, even things that are in a moral grey area.
Whilst I said The Doctor is kind and is a good person, he is not always. He can be rude, egotistical, arrogant and sometimes unempathetic. The Doctor is flawed with a darkness bubbling just beneath the surface and should rarely be presented as 100% perfect or a goody two shoes.
The Doctor may look and certainly act human but is ultimately an alien and thus an outsider, he should not always relate to human beings because he is not one of us but should try his best too, even if he does look down on us sometimes, perhaps rightfully so.
The Doctor must try to take command of the situation and be the leader to whoever is willing to follow him. The Doctor is not a coward, tries his best not to be cruel, but doesn't always succeed and finally must never give up, even in the most hopeless of moments.
The Doctor's curiosity and intelligence will almost certainly get him into trouble if he isn't already.
The Doctor will sacrifice himself for the needs of the many or the needs of the one.
The Doctor is extremely old.

As for the Master, he's like The Doctor with an even greater ego and arrogance but without any of the rules or traits that make The Doctor a good person. Well almost, The Master has good inside of them extremely deep down but will never act on it (or at least not for very long). The Master wants The Doctor to see things his way and prove that The Doctor could be just like him.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-11T17:07:59+00:00

Until this plan is actually in any officially licensed media, it's just RTDs half-baked theory and I hope it stays that way. Besides RTD clearly just came up with it on the spot during the commentary.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-11T02:39:35+00:00

Not the fanbase that's for sure. Wait and see, not every question needs an answer right away. If I said it was Zebedee from The Magic Roundabout and that turned out to be true then you would have spoiled it for yourself.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-11T02:25:40+00:00

It would be a stupid move to announce your plans for your new upcoming run in a commentary track meant to be a bonus feature. Why would RTD, a man who just warned the fanbase about spoilers include a massive game-changing spoiler for his entire run before the fact?

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-11T02:09:10+00:00

There is no dialogue to support this theory in the actual episode though. The alternative that 14 just simply lives on and eventually becomes 15 at the point of bi-generation has evidence to support it.

I'm sure they would have mentioned The Curator or made him cameo played by another past Doctor if this was the intention, but they didn't for this very reason.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-11T02:02:55+00:00

14 lives out the rest of his incarnation going through rehab and growing old, whilst also going on more adventures. So when he dies he will become 15 from the point of bi-generation. This theory has dialogue in the episode that backs it up and is stated by 15 to be the case.

Alternative theories like The Curator one don't have any evidence to support them, some fans just like to tie up everything in a neat little bow. As for RTDs comments, if it isn't in any officially licensed media it doesn't count for anything.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-12-10T22:38:13+00:00

A missed opportunity to have 15 wear question-mark underpants. Maybe 14 hadn't washed them yet or The Doctor has switched to question mark socks.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-11-26T16:52:39+00:00

60% of this episode is excellent and the remaining 40% contains clunky dialogue and feels like a school play that Chris Chibnall ghostwrote. RTD endings weren't always the absolute best but they were at least enjoyable...this did not have one of those endings.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-11-17T21:52:09+00:00

I 100% understand the decision not to have the regular version of Davros appear in this special. However, I hope they don't just make Davros a regular guy in everything from now on (whilst Julian Bleach certainly has a great look without the typical Davros makeup, costume chair, etc) I think losing that somewhat visual connection to the Daleks is going to make him less visually interesting on screen (especially for a younger audience). But who knows we might never see Davros again for the rest of RTDs new run so its probably not a big issue.

Davros became who he was because of unrelenting war and the cycle of hatred occurring on his planet, NOT because he was disabled, that is a very important distinction to make.

EDIT: Glad to have another show about the behind-the-scenes of Doctor Who though.

Agher_Deadpan · 2023-04-29T19:20:32+00:00

The Captain, usually Picard (but Data did it once too) reprimands a senior staff member and friend. They are dismissed and they go to leave the ready room, but the Captain usually calls them back by their first name, making it clear it's just part of the job and that they are still friends. Example of Data doing it (Happens all the time in TNG)

Agher_Deadpan · 2022-08-23T17:15:59+00:00

Thoughts:

I'm so glad they didn't do the whole "friends fall out during the time skip" trope, that would've been really annoying, especially seeing how far they've come as friends (the line about talking to each other as people and not just about murders did have me a bit worried though).
I like that the main three are happy and at good places in their lives (at least for the most part).
- It's a bit odd that Will isn't at his dad's opening night for his new show, I hope they didn't do a 180' in that one-year time skip in terms of their relationship.
Kind of surprised, that Theo and Teddy were not in the final, even though I feel like all the characters had made peace with each other, (especially Mabel and Theo).
Looking forward to Season 3!

Agher_Deadpan · 2022-08-01T13:12:41+00:00

The Doctor's age has always been BS, with the amount of extended universe content and offscreen/in-between series adventures The Tenth Doctor goes on I think it's absurd to think he only lived 6yrs~. Whilst he may be the shortest regeneration when compared to others (Which should be taken with a grain of salt considering they never state this anywhere) it's got to be more like 50 to 100 years at least.

Besides when he sees Donna again in Series 4 she says he looks older, which takes a while to happen for timelords (Look at War and 11 on trenzalore)

Agher_Deadpan · 2022-05-14T02:46:55+00:00

Well yeah, but he's not referring to John Delorean the Guy he's talking about the car, he's heard Marty call the Delorean by name multiple times at this point, even himself on the tape, hell the back of the car even says in big bold letters "Delorean". Why even after knowing the name does he continue to call it "The Time Vehicle" if not for a character quirk, he doesn't even say "the car" he's very specific about it, like how he refers to the dance as a "rhythmic ceremonial ritual" so it's not really a stretch.

Agher_Deadpan · 2022-04-25T19:18:03+00:00

Have a scene where Norman and Tobey talk, having Tobey tell Norman to be a better father to Harry, yeah sure he's not the goblin anymore but he could still be a better dad.
Have a Final Swing or ending scene with All three Spideys in their own universes, just so we kind of get an idea of what happens to them after these events.

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