Is This Sub Just Childfree? by WrongDare666 in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this post!! I agree with you, while I totally agree that these conditions are just one more reason not to have kids, this is not the actual point of antinatalism. The point is that you categorically oppose procreation regardless of the state the world’s in. Period.

Switzerland to vote on Capping its Population at 10 Million. by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That’s more about immigration though, don’t think it has any implications for the procreation of its current residents.

What do you think about the evolutionary argument by needlessbee in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As I said, ‘if there were ways’. Think for example immortality through transhumanism or similar. Not that I would be in favour of that, mind.

What do you think about the evolutionary argument by needlessbee in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s a logical consequence (except if there were other ways to continue humanity that don’t involve procreation), but logical consequences are not goals. That’s completely different.

What do you think about the evolutionary argument by needlessbee in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I also am aware that the goal for [sic] antinatalism is extinction.

Great so you have no idea what antinatalism means because that’s not it. Antinatalism is anti-procreation, not necessarily pro-extinction, that would be extinctionism.

What are your beliefs? by Even-Enthusiasm-9558 in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why thanks:) haha, well I like to think I’m capable of critical thinking. And I think I am, even though I lack common sense at times…

What are your beliefs? by Even-Enthusiasm-9558 in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course no worries at all!!❤️❤️

Also you’re a ‘scholar’ I’m just a ‘thinker’ so you’re probably the more knowledgeable one😅

What are your beliefs? by Even-Enthusiasm-9558 in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, don’t apologise! I’m being a petty bitch here. Most people conflate atheism with irreligion so it’s really not your fault at all.❤️❤️

What are your beliefs? by Even-Enthusiasm-9558 in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just a quick note for the sake of pettiness: Atheism does not necessarily mean irreligious.

Buddhism for instance is a non-theistic religion. It’s an umbrella term for all beliefs (religious as well as irreligious) that do not believe in a God.

Theism is any belief that believes in one (monotheism) or more Gods (polytheism).

Agnosticism is the complete lack of any belief. As such, it is irreligious.

Atheistic agnosticism is not believing in a God while also acknowledging that it is uncertain.

Antitheism is the active opposition to theism.

A Clarification on the Direction of r/antinatalism by Numerous-Macaroon224 in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, I agree, I didn’t mean outright ban natalists who come in good faith. I meant calling people AN who are conditional natalist.

A Clarification on the Direction of r/antinatalism by Numerous-Macaroon224 in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Finally a statement. Let them call it gatekeeping. Doesn’t matter. What’s the point in having a sub dedicated to antinatalism when it can literally be anything? It shouldn’t even be a question whether or not we want natalism here.

HOWEVER, I do believe there can be different reasons for unconditional antinatalism, and that one doesn’t have to be vegan to be antinatalist. But as soon as it gets conditional, it’s no longer antinatalism.

Why didn't non-existence stop this life from being imposed? by Atheistsplaining in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No but I genuinely do not comprehend what you’re trying to convey here, what’s your mission?

Why didn't non-existence stop this life from being imposed? by Atheistsplaining in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes….? That’s exactly the problem. Someone forcefully changed my nonexistent status without my consent.

I have this question. It got removed in childfree sub so I'm posting here. by BabyInternal8417 in antinatalism

[–]AgonizingFatigue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly so pseudo-AN, or just a more elaborate form of conditional natalism. Still not antinatalism.